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De: BARILOCHENSE6999  (Mensaje original) Enviado: 14/10/2012 23:59

Re: Are weeks counted from New Moon Day?

Unread postby WeirdBeard » June 18th, 2012, 12:25 pm

- The heavens (luminaries) and the earth were created (bara, used once in chapter) in Genesis 1 Verse 1

- It "came to be" darkness in verse 2

followed by six days of ordering, making, etc...

- Seventh Day Sabbath

It is easy to prove that the Sabbath on the Seventh Day is also an eighth...from the moon being new. The moon was new in Genesis 1 Verse 1.

In Genesis 1:1-2

We have all of the heavens, earth (complete with waters) and then disorder, chaos, destruction "came to be" in verse two.

The evolutionary model states that the world came from "darkness, disorder, chaos, confusion, etc..." and is tied to verse 2

That is why the heathen start their day in darkness, their month (moon) in darkness, their year winterfall (death) because their beginning is darkness in verse 2.

The scriptural model for sons of the light, sons of the day begins in verse 1 "in the beginning"

That is why they begin their day in light, their month (moon) in light and their year in Aviv (life, when all of creation agrees)

The movie Prometheus teaches the evolutionary model with angelicgodlike Sumerian beings that made "uninhabitable planets" livable via "Terra-forming" and also genetically engineered homo-sapiens "in their image"...

I hope you see the connection and what is coming upon us, soon.

I will expound later. "The Eighth Day" is a picture of Restoration where "The Seventh Day" is a picture of the rest prior to the Restoration. The Restoration is a return to Genesis 1:1 (YHWHElohim BEFORE the fall of BOTH "the adversarymessengers" and mankindand) NOT a return to Genesis 1:2. It is eternity in light, with him who is light and in him in whom "there is no darkness at all"

1 (moon new, bara) - Genesis 1 Verse 1
6 days (ordering, making, asah)
1 (Sabbath AFTER six work days)

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We abandon the new moon and we lose sight of BOTH the 8th Day (pictured in Shemini Atzeret) as well our Father in heaven. "The Eighth Day" is in fact, "new beginnings"...connected to Genesis 1:1 and NOT Genesis 1:2

The fact that there will be "no nightdarkness" in the end is also a picture of "the beginning" PRIOR to the disorder, darkness, chaos and confusion in verse 2.

The eighth is a picture of the first...when things ACTUALLY began, not when evolutionist say so.
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Blow the trumpet at the renewed full (moon) leading to our feast! - Psalms 81:3
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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 15/10/2012 00:03

Re: Are weeks counted from New Moon Day?

Unread postby Carrie » June 26th, 2012, 11:25 am

WeirdBeard wrote:- The heavens (luminaries) and the earth were created (bara, used once in chapter) in Genesis 1 Verse 1

- It "came to be" darkness in verse 2

followed by six days of ordering, making, etc...

- Seventh Day Sabbath

It is easy to prove that the Sabbath on the Seventh Day is also an eighth...from the moon being new. The moon was new in Genesis 1 Verse 1.


I believe I can grasp Genesis 1:1-2 as a picture of a day (light = "In the beginning Elohim") followed by night ("And the earth became...darkness") scenario. I guess my hangup is the phrase "new moon day". I just don't like "chodesh" being translated as "new moon". I prefer "newness" or perhaps "renewal". The word for "moon" is "yareach" (h3394) and the word for "month" is "yarach" (h3391). Neither of these sound/look at all like "chodesh".

"Chodesh" (h2320) means "new" and the root is "chadash" (h2318) which means "to be new, renew or repair". The word "chodesh" is almost always used whenever denoting a point in time. "Echad chodesh" denotes "newness one" or "one newness". "Rosh chodesh" denotes "chief/head newness". Beyond that, "chodesh" is usually used to indicate either which "newness" of the year it is (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) or which day it is by referring to the count of yom from echad chodesh.

Gen 7:11 In the sixH8337 hundredthH3967 yearH8141 of Noah'sH5146 life,H2416 in the secondH8145 month,H2320 the seventeenthH7651 H6240 dayH3117 of the month,H2320 the sameH2320 dayH3117 were allH3605 the fountainsH4599 of the greatH7227 deepH8415 broken up,H1234 and the windowsH699 of heavenH8064 were opened.H6605


I'm still mulling over all of this and continuing to study it out, but I can grasp Genesis 1:1 as "newness" better than as a "new moon". Perhaps others who struggle with the moon being there in Genesis 1:1, might see it this way too. :?:
And Elohim said, "Let there be light," and there was light. Elohim saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. -- Genesis 1:3-4
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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 15/10/2012 00:06

Re: Are weeks counted from New Moon Day?

Unread postby WeirdBeard » June 26th, 2012, 1:14 pm

I get it. I am not crazy about it either though it can't be separated from the moon or the day.

The reason I add emphasis here is because there are those who detach the renewal (of the moon) from the day in which it renewed, fresh, repaired etc...

Thus, making it a "night" of renewal or even an extended time period of a few days, which they also consider to include darkness.

Do you see the importance? I also believe that is why "chodesh enewalfresh epaired" is specifically used in association with "yomdaylightwarmth of the day"...to UNDO the previous misconception.
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