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Una razón principal por la que Jesús no le habló directamente a Juan durante su revelación, y en lugar de ello eligió a su ángel (el ángel de Jesucristo), fue:
 
Para que la Escritura se cumpliera.
 
Jesús había dicho una palabras de advertencia muy importantes antes a sus seguidores, cuando ellos le preguntaron sobre las señales antes del fin. Estas palabras fueron:
 

7 Y le preguntaron, diciendo: Maestro, ¿cuándo será esto? ¿y qué señal habrá cuando estas cosas estén para suceder?

8 Él entonces dijo: Mirad que no seáis engañados; porque vendrán muchos en mi nombre, diciendo: Yo soy el Cristo, y: El tiempo está cerca. Mas no vayáis en pos de ellos.

 

 

Como podemos ver, estas palabras sucedieron en los tiempos de la vida de Jesús en la Tierra. Pero despúes, vino la revelación de Juan dada por el ángel de Jesucristo, lo podemos ver en el libro de Revelación (Apocalipsis):

 

8 Yo Juan soy el que oyó y vio estas cosas. Y después que las hube oído y visto, me postré para adorar a los pies del ángel que me mostraba estas cosas.

9 Pero él me dijo: Mira, no lo hagas; porque yo soy consiervo tuyo, de tus hermanos los profetas, y de los que guardan las palabras de este libro. Adora a Dios.

10 Y me dijo: No selles las palabras de la profecía de este libro, porque el tiempo está cerca.

 

Si Cristo Jesús le hubiera dicho a Juan, directamente, que él era el Cristo, y su vez, que el tiempo estaba cerca, automáticamente el libro del Apocalipsis hubiera sido un libro falso.

  

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¿PERO MIRANDO MAS LEJOS, PORQUE LA REFERENCIA ES A JUAN?
 
¿PORQUE JUAN MARCOS TAMBIEN ES LLAMADO JUAN?
 
ESPERO SUS RESPUESTAS AMIGO.
 
 
 

LOS CUATRO NIVELES DE ENTENDIMIENTO
DE LA TORÁ / PALABRA DE DIOS

  1. P’shat — Literal
  2. Remez — Una Escritura unida a otra Escritura
  3. Drash — Interpretaciones derivadas de la Escritura por medio de la exégesis y las aplicaciones espirituales.
  4. Sod — Significado espiritual más profundo (misterios y dichos oscuros) de la Escritura no visto según el significado aparente.

http://www.hebroots.org/ch11bridespan.html#CHAP11

LOS NIÑOS ESPIRITUALES FRENTE
A LA MADUREZ ESPIRITUAL

En Hebreos 5:12-14, la Palabra de Dios nos dice que debemos crecer en el conocimiento de la Palabra de Dios. Al hacerlo, vamos a pasar de ser niños espirituales a la madurez espiritual. La madurez espiritual se describe usando la palabra griega "Téleios" que se traduce como "adultez". En Hebreos 5:12-14 está escrito:

"Porque debiendo ser ya maestros, después de tanto tiempo, tenéis necesidad de que se os vuelva a enseñar cuáles son los primeros rudimentos de las palabras de Dios; y habéis llegado a ser tales que tenéis necesidad de leche, y no de alimento sólido. Y todo aquel que participa de la leche es inexperto en la palabra de justicia, porque es niño."

En estos versículos debemos distinguir entre los niños cristianos que sólo pueden digerir la leche y los cristianos maduros que pueden comer la fuerte carne de la Palabra de Dios. La palabra niño en el griego es la palabra "népios". Es la palabra (3516) de Strong. La palabra griega "népios" Strong la define como "un infante, persona simple, un cristiano inmaduro". El Thayer’s Greek Lexicon define la palabra "népios" como "un niño pequeño, pueril, sin instrucción, inexperto".

La palabra hebrea equivalente para la palabra griega, "népios", es la palabra "Péti". Es la palabra (6612) de Strong. La palabra hebrea "Péti" se traduce en el Antiguo Testamento como "simple." Por lo tanto, la Biblia hace una clara distinción entre los que son simples y pueriles en su fe (el cristiano carnal o inmaduro) y entre aquellos que son adultos, completos y maduros en su fe (el cristiano maduro y la Novia de Cristo).

El principio bíblico del crecimiento de niños espirituales a la madurez espiritual lo podemos ver más adelante en Efesios 4:11-15, según está escrito:

"Y él mismo constituyó a unos apóstoles; a otros, profetas; a otros evangelistas; a otros, pastores y maestros, a fin de perfeccionar a los santos para la obra del ministerio, para la edificación del cuerpo de Cristo, hasta que todos lleguemos a la unidad de la fe y del conocimiento del Hijo de Dios, a un varón perfecto ("Téleios" – maduro espiritualmente), a la medida de la estatura de la plenitud de Cristo; Para que ya no seamos niños fluctuantes ("népios" – cristianos niños e inmaduros espiritualmente), llevados por doquiera de todo viento de doctrina, por estratagema de hombres que para engañar emplean con astucias las artimañas del error, sino que siguiendo la verdad en amor, crezcamos en todo en aquel que es la cabeza, esto es Cristo."

Dios nos dice las características de un cristiano carnal que es un niño espiritual en 1ª Corintios 3:1-4. Un cristiano carnal es alguien que está todavía controlado por las prácticas y caminos de la carne. Podemos ver esta verdad en 1ª Corintios 3:1-4, como está escrito:

"De manera que yo, hermanos, no pude hablaros como a espirituales, sino como a carnales, como a niños ("népios") en Cristo. Os di a beber leche (la característica de un cristiano que es un niño espiritual – Hebreos 5:12-14), y no vianda; Porque aún no erais capaces, ni sois capaces todavía, porque aún sois carnales; pues habiendo entre vosotros celos, contiendas y disensiones, ¿no sois carnales, y andáis como hombres? Porque diciendo el uno: Yo ciertamente soy de Pablo; y el otro: Yo soy de Apolos, ¿no sois carnales?"

Por lo tanto, podemos ver por estos versículos en Efesios 4.11-15, que Dios desea que los cristianos crezcamos en conocimiento de Dios y seamos maduros espiritualmente "Téleios" y no seamos niños (népios) ya más. Los cristianos carnales practican la envidia, la contienda y las divisiones y siguen a un líder cristiano dejando a un lado a otros 1ª Corintios 3:1-4. Dios desea tener una Novia madura espiritualmente porque su recompensa será la mayor en el Reino de los Cielos. Los cristianos espiritualmente inmaduros estarán en el cielo pero serán los menores en el Reino de los Cielos (Mateo 5:19).

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Apocalipsis 21

1. Vi un cielo nuevo y una tierra nueva; porque el primer cielo y la primera tierra pasaron, y el mar ya no existía más. (Una referencia al tercer dia de la creacion. Es como una tipologia de Genesis 3, en el contexto al tercer dia)
2. Y yo Juan vi la santa ciudad, la nueva Jerusalén, descender del cielo, de Dios, dispuesta como una esposa ataviada para su marido.
3. Y oí una gran voz del cielo que decía: He aquí el tabernáculo de Dios con los hombres, y él morará con ellos; y ellos serán su pueblo, y Dios mismo estará con ellos como su Dios(Es clara la referencia de APOCALIPSIS 21 A QUE EL PADRE TAMBIEN VIENE A REINAR EN LA TIERRA)
4. Enjugará Dios toda lágrima de los ojos de ellos; y ya no habrá muerte, ni habrá más llanto, ni clamor, ni dolor; porque las primeras cosas pasaron.
5. Y el que estaba sentado en el trono dijo: He aquí, yo hago nuevas todas las cosas. Y me dijo: Escribe; porque estas palabras son fieles y verdaderas. (Cuando dice alli palabras, esta haciendo referencia no solamente a las palabras especificamente sino que tambien a los 144000 santos y sacerdotes en el contexto a que CRISTO TAMBIEN ES LLAMADO "PALABRA DE DIOS" Y "FIEL Y VERDADERO" EN APOCALIPSIS 19 en su ultima parte)
6. Y me dijo: Hecho está. Yo soy el Alfa y la Omega, el principio y el fin. Al que tuviere sed, yo le daré gratuitamente de la fuente del agua de la vida. (Es claro que el que lo dice ES DIOS EL PADRE  YHWH)
7. El que venciere heredará todas las cosas, y yo seré su Dios, y él será mi hijo. (Noten la similitud a JUAN 20, cuando CRISTO LE DICE A MARIA MAGDALENA, TIPO DE LA NUEVA JERUSALEN, VOY A MI PADRE Y VUESTRO PADRE A MI DIOS Y A VUESTRO DIOS. Es obvio el cumplimiento del PACTO ABRAHAMICO Y EL PACTO DAVIDICO DEL REINO MESIANICO DE 2 DE SAMUEL 7)
8. Pero los cobardes e incrédulos, los abominables y homicidas, los fornicarios y hechiceros, los idólatras y todos los mentirosos tendrán su parte en el lago que arde con fuego y azufre, que es la muerte segunda.
9. Vino entonces a mí uno de los siete ángeles que tenían las siete copas llenas de las siete plagas postreras, y habló conmigo, diciendo: Ven acá, yo te mostraré la desposada, la esposa del Cordero. (Noten la relacion de la COPA CON LA ESPOSA DEL CORDERO)
10. Y me llevó en el Espíritu a un monte grande y alto, y me mostró la gran ciudad santa de Jerusalén, que descendía del cielo, de Dios,
 
MON-KEY/MON-DAY/MON-EY-E/LLAVE DEL MONO/MOON /LUNA/ RAQUEL (GENESIS 37)
11. teniendo la gloria de Dios. Y su fulgor era semejante al de una piedra preciosísima, como piedra de jaspe, diáfana como el cristal. (LA "GLORIA DE DIOS" es una clave sabatica en contexto a EXODO 24 Y 25. Se vuelve a repetir el patron del  libro de EFESO EN SU CAPITULO 5.)
12. Tenía un muro grande y alto con doce puertas; y en las puertas, doce ángeles, y nombres inscritos, que son los de las doce tribus de los hijos de Israel;
13. al oriente tres puertas; al norte tres puertas; al sur tres puertas; al occidente tres puertas.
14. Y el muro de la ciudad tenía doce cimientos, y sobre ellos los doce nombres de los doce apóstoles del Cordero.
15. El que hablaba conmigo tenía una caña de medir, de oro, para medir la ciudad, sus puertas y su muro.
16. La ciudad se halla establecida en cuadro, y su longitud es igual a su anchura; y él midió la ciudad con la caña, doce mil estadios; la longitud, la altura y la anchura de ella son iguales. (LA CUBICACION DE UNA ESFERA. HAY UN OBVIO NEXO ALQUIMICO. LA GRAN CIUDAD ESTA DISEÑADA CON EL MISMO PATRON DE LA GRAN PIRAMIDE DE GIZE)
17. Y midió su muro, ciento cuarenta y cuatro codos, de medida de hombre, la cual es de ángel.
18. El material de su muro era de jaspe; pero la ciudad era de oro puro, semejante al vidrio limpio;
19. y los cimientos del muro de la ciudad estaban adornados con toda piedra preciosa. El primer cimiento era jaspe; el segundo, zafiro; el tercero, ágata; el cuarto, esmeralda;
20. el quinto, ónice; el sexto, cornalina; el séptimo, crisólito; el octavo, berilo; el noveno, topacio; el décimo, crisopraso; el undécimo, jacinto; el duodécimo, amatista.
21. Las doce puertas eran doce perlas; cada una de las puertas era una perla. Y la calle de la ciudad era de oro puro, transparente como vidrio.
22. Y no vi en ella templo; porque el Señor Dios Todopoderoso es el templo de ella, y el Cordero.
23. La ciudad no tiene necesidad de sol ni de luna que brillen en ella; porque la gloria de Dios la ilumina, y el Cordero es su lumbrera. (Es como que hay una referencia esoterica a SOL-O-MON, OSEA JUAN 10:22)
24. Y las naciones que hubieren sido salvas andarán a la luz de ella; y los reyes de la tierra traerán su gloria y honor a ella.
25. Sus puertas nunca serán cerradas de día, pues allí no habrá noche.
26. Y llevarán la gloria y la honra de las naciones a ella.
27. No entrará en ella ninguna cosa inmunda, o que hace abominación y mentira, sino solamente los que están inscritos en el libro de la vida del Cordero.

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EN APOCALIPSIS 22 ESTA LA CLAVE DE LA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE, EN SU RELACION CON VENUS/VIERNES/SEXTO DIA DE LA CREACION/ CREACION DEL HOMBRE Y LA MUJER A IMAGEN DE DIOS EN EL MARCO AL SANTO GRIAL

Apocalipsis 22

Reina-Valera 1960 (RVR1960)

22  Después me mostró un río limpio de agua de vida, resplandeciente como cristal, que salía del trono de Dios y del Cordero.

En medio de la calle de la ciudad, y a uno y otro lado del río, estaba el árbol de la vida, que produce doce frutos, dando cada mes su fruto; y las hojas del árbol eran para la sanidad de las naciones.

Y no habrá más maldición; y el trono de Dios y del Cordero estará en ella, y sus siervos le servirán,

y verán su rostro, y su nombre estará en sus frentes.

No habrá allí más noche; y no tienen necesidad de luz de lámpara, ni de luz del sol, porque Dios el Señor los iluminará; y reinarán por los siglos de los siglos.

La venida de Cristo está cerca

Y me dijo: Estas palabras son fieles y verdaderas. Y el Señor, el Dios de los espíritus de los profetas, ha enviado su ángel, para mostrar a sus siervos las cosas que deben suceder pronto.

!!He aquí, vengo pronto! Bienaventurado el que guarda las palabras de la profecía de este libro.

Yo Juan soy el que oyó y vio estas cosas. Y después que las hube oído y visto, me postré para adorar a los pies del ángel que me mostraba estas cosas. (ES UNA REFERENCIA ESOTERICA A JUAN MARCOS, HECHOS 12:12, EL HIJO DE CRISTO Y MARIA MAGDALENA, OSEA EL GRIAL)

Pero él me dijo: Mira, no lo hagas; porque yo soy consiervo tuyo, de tus hermanos los profetas, y de los que guardan las palabras de este libro. Adora a Dios.

10 Y me dijo: No selles las palabras de la profecía de este libro, porque el tiempo está cerca.

11 El que es injusto, sea injusto todavía; y el que es inmundo, sea inmundo todavía; y el que es justo, practique la justicia todavía; y el que es santo, santifíquese todavía.

12 He aquí yo vengo pronto, y mi galardón conmigo, para recompensar a cada uno según sea su obra.

13 Yo soy el Alfa y la Omega, el principio y el fin, el primero y el último. (EL SALMO 119, ESTA ESCRITO EN FUNCION A LAS 22 LETRAS HEBREAS. OSEA QUE EN UN CONTEXTO GRIEGO LA REFERENCIA AL ALFA Y EL OMEGA, ES EN EL CONTEXTO A LAS 22 LETRAS HEBREAS. EL DISEÑO DE LA TORRE EIFFEL EN FUNCION A DICHO SALMO, ES UNA REFERENCIA AL REGOCIJO EN LA TORA, OSEA EL OCTAVO DIA DE LA FIESTA DE LOS TABERNACULOS, LEVITICO 23:33, EN EL CUAL LOS JUDIOS LEEN EL SALMO 119, EL MISMO DIA 22/7 O 22 DE TISHRI. ESE ES EL SECRETO DE LA PI=22/7=3.14=DIA DE MARIA MAGDALENA EN EL MARCO A LA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE.)

 

 

 

NOTEN QUE LA PARTE INFEFIOR DE LA TORRE EIFFEL TIENE LA FORMA DE LA LETRA  GRIEGA OMEGA Y QUE LA PARTE SUPERIOR TIENE LA FORMA DE LA LETRA ALFA/A. ESTA TODO CALCULADO YHWH NOS MUESTRA MENSAJES SUBLIMINALES EN NUESTRAS NARICES Y NOSOTROS SEGUIMOS CON NUESTRA EGOLATRIA.

 

 

 

 

 
 

14 Bienaventurados los que lavan sus ropas, para tener derecho al árbol de la vida, y para entrar por las puertas en la ciudad.

15 Mas los perros estarán fuera, y los hechiceros, los fornicarios, los homicidas, los idólatras, y todo aquel que ama y hace mentira.

16 Yo Jesús he enviado mi ángel para daros testimonio de estas cosas en las iglesias. Yo soy la raíz y el linaje de David, la estrella resplandeciente de la mañana. (LA ESTRELLA DE LA MAÑANA, OSEA VENUS/SIRIO. ES UNA REFERENCIA A ISHTAR. PARIS ESTA DISEÑADO EN FUNCION A SIRIO COMO HE EXPUESTO EN MENSAJES ANTERIORES Y VENUS. NOTEN LA CLAVE DEL VERSICULO 22:16 ES UNA REFERENCIA AL 22/7=PI=3.14, OSEA A LA MISMA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE DISEÑADA EN FUNCION A VENUS/SIRIO)

17 Y el Espíritu y la Esposa dicen: Ven. Y el que oye, diga: Ven. Y el que tiene sed, venga; y el que quiera, tome del agua de la vida gratuitamente. (ISRAEL/VENCEDOR/VENUS/V=UTERO FEMENINO. ISIS-RA-ELOHIM. EL MISMO TERMINO ISRAEL TIENE CONNOTACION DE LA UNION ENTRE EL HOMBRE Y LA MUJER. TODO EL RITUAL DE LA MISA CATOLICA, EN FUNCION AL NUMERO 33, GIRA ALREDEDOR DE ESTE VERSICULO. EL CATOLICISMO ESOTERICO MANEJA CODIGOS QUE LOS FALSOS PROTESTANTES NO TIENEN NI IDEA.)
 
 
 

18 Yo testifico a todo aquel que oye las palabras de la profecía de este libro: Si alguno añadiere a estas cosas, Dios traerá sobre él las plagas que están escritas en este libro.

19 Y si alguno quitare de las palabras del libro de esta profecía, Dios quitará su parte del libro de la vida, y de la santa ciudad y de las cosas que están escritas en este libro.

20 El que da testimonio de estas cosas dice: Ciertamente vengo en breve. Amén; sí, ven, Señor Jesús.

21 La gracia de nuestro Señor Jesucristo sea con todos vosotros. Amén.

 
                              AMEN=33
 

 

 
 
Foto: ¿Fue Jesús el Cristo un masón?______- Esta es la tesis desarrollada por varios autores masónicos, que a menudo parece incomoda, pero simplemente es como otras cosas digno de un análisis muy profundo.________ Esta pregunta surge a menudo en la búsqueda de los orígenes de la masonería. Es claro que la Masonería no nació en 1717 a raíz de la reunión de cuatro logias de Londres para formar la Gran Logia de Londres. No es que estos cuatro logias de masones en Londres en el siglo 18 se unieran, es obvio que esas cuatro logias ya existían, y había muchas otras Logias en Inglaterra y Escocia._________ Algunos autores afirman que simbólicamente el primer masón era .. Adam, el primer hombre, hecho a mano por dios de la arcilla._________ Otros argumentan que el primer masón era el mismo Jesús. Encontramos huellas de estas creencias en el libro y de la historia de Didier Convard "El Triangulo Secreto". Jesús aparece aquí, como el fundador de la primera logia cuyo sucesor es San Pedro el apóstol. _________ La cuestión central, ¿puede legítimamente preguntarse: ¿Jesús el Cristo era masón? ______ A primera vista, esta pregunta puede parecer sorprendente. De hecho conocido profesión de Jesús era carpintero. __________ Hay una referencia masónica en la misma Biblia muy significativa para afirmar que los discípulos de Cristo practicaban un tipo de masonería y es en Gálatas capitulo 2 versículo 9 En efecto, *Jacobo, Pedro y Juan, que eran considerados columnas, al reconocer la gracia que yo había recibido, nos dieron la mano a Bernabé y a mí en señal de compañerismo, de modo que nosotros fuéramos a los gentiles y ellos a los judíos. 10 Sólo nos pidieron que nos acordáramos de los pobres, y eso es precisamente lo que he venido haciendo con esmero. La profesión de Jesús el Cristo ha existido y cuando viene a predicar el evangelio en su ciudad natal de Nazaret. Las personas se preguntan: Mateo 13, 55: "¿No es éste el hijo del carpintero a su madre que se llamaba María, y sus hermanos Jacques y José, Simón y Judas? ..." __________ Marcos 6,3: "¿No es éste el carpintero, hijo de María, hermano de, José, Judas y Simón sus hermanas ¿no están entre nosotros ...?"_______ Los dos textos no son mutuamente excluyentes. Es probable que Jesús era carpintero ... y el hijo del carpintero, profesión a menudo se hereda en este momento, el hijo acceder a la profesión del padre. _________ La palabra griega que se traduce generalmente como "carpintero" en francés charpentier- macon es TEKTONE (τεκτων). __________ Sin embargo, es muy interesante leer los traductores de la nota de la Nueva Versión Internacional de esta palabra en el lugar del evangelio de Marcos._____________ Al Analizar textualmente sin quitar o añadir: "El carpintero:término griego que aquí aplicó a sí mismo (cf. Mt 13:55) Jesús tiene un ancho que su homólogo tradicional, en el sentido francés maçon o castellano albañil , que puede aplicar a muchos tipos de artesanos, constructores (albañiles) o contratistas ". ___________ Es muy probable que Jesús, por lo tanto era TEKTONE es decir, tanto carpintero y albañil. Los edificios alrededor se hacen generalmente de piedra, la madera es mucho más raro en esta región de Israel del tiempo de Jesús, incluso en Nazaret se encuentran pruebas que había canteras de piedra y de picapedreros, y muy poca evidencia de trabajar la madera . En el momento de su juventud en la gran ciudad fue construida, Séforis. Herodes Antipas Herodes el Grande, el hijo había hecho llevado a cabo la reconstrucción de Séforis, -4 destruida durante la revuelta de Galilea. __________ Aunque Séforis nunca se menciona en los Evangelios, pero está una hora de camino apenas Nazaret. Tal vez á causa de Jesús vio una muy mala imagen de ede esta ciudad helenizada y pagana en la tierra de Israel, omitieron mencionarla_________ Los tektones en Israel de tiempos de Jesús trabajaron duro todo el día para pagar apenas por encima de la de un esclavo liberado, pero no es extraño que estos israelitas formaran gremios de albañiles, y fueran diestros en las enseñanzas cabalísticas y, de algún modo compararan la piedra con alguna enseñanza o parábola, como en el Caso de San Pedro aposto, que le dijo tu eres piedra y sobre esta piedra edificaré mi Iglesia, o esa otra donde dice: : La piedra que desecharon los edificadores, ha venido a ser cabeza de ángulo. Estaba en los Evangelios de los muchos ejemplos que demuestran que Jesús sabía precisamente el oficio de estos trabajadores de la piedra. Conocía íntimamente esta profesión. Cristo sabía tan bien porque él mismo había sido uno de ellos, y de cuando en cuando le gustaba filosofar alrededor de este oficio de Tekton ... ______________ El filósofo Sófocles menciono que su padre era un TEKTONE y que de ese oficio había aprendido a filosofar en la vida._______ Está lejos de la imagen de Jesús trabajando felizmente en el taller de carpintería propiedad de la familia ... __________ Hay indicios bíblicos de que Jesús, en sus 12 años (habla con los maestros de la ley en el Templo de Jerusalén) y 30 años (comienzo de su predicación) tenía en mente los oficios de la construcción del conocimiento, incluyendo frases propias de las los albañiles.____- ¿Pertenecía Cristo a una hermandad de constructores? Evidentemente sí, así le identificaron miren este no es el tekton o carpintero hijo de Maria.__ Jesús era un masón en el sentido dado a este término desde principios del siglo 18 que no cae absurdo del plano, incluso Cristo era evidente anticlerical como cualquier masón de hoy, tanto que le costó la vida serlo.________ ¿Jesús era masón operativo en sus primeros años? Bueno de alguna forma debió ganarse la vida . Los textos del Nuevo Testamento a nuestra disposición atestiguan._________ ¿Se han efectuado iniciaciones masónicas relacionadas con este tipo de fraternidades próximas al cristianismo? Evidentemente podemos imaginar a los operarios albañiles de Catedrales Cristianas, imaginando a Cristo como a uno de ellos. De ahí tantas referencias de albañilería en nuestra Masonería___________ Jesús fue "franco", es decir "libre" y "TEKTONE" es decir, "albañil" o "carpintero".________ Muchas veces algunos masones piensan equivocadamente que nombrar a Cristo relacionado con la Masonería, es relacionar a la misma Masonería con la Iglesia Católica, la verdad no es así. El Clero Católico y otras iglesias se apoderaron de Cristo y lo hicieron exclusivo para ellos, en un sentido literal secuestraron la imagen de Cristo- Cristo es un Arquetipo Universal, sin lugar a dudas. Un Cristo Sin implicaciones de Derechas políticas ni de izquierdas políticas. Y Cristo aún muy lejos de lo que la limitada ciencia profana y su filosofía aun puedan comprender, en cuanto a negar o afirmar. Alcoseri   Leer más del Tema en: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/secreto-masonico/4paYF6PHBGs Secreto Masónico Masoneria
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33 is not only a numerical representation of “the Star of David,” but also the numerical equivalent of AMEN: 1+13+5+14=33...A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones that form the coccyx are counted individually...In reference to gramophone records, 33 refers to a type of record by its revolution speed of 33⅓ revolutions per minute. 33s are also known as long playing records, or LPs...
 

 

 

 

 


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EN APOCALIPSIS 22 ESTA LA CLAVE DE LA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE, EN SU RELACION CON VENUS/VIERNES/SEXTO DIA DE LA CREACION/ CREACION DEL HOMBRE Y LA MUJER A IMAGEN DE DIOS EN EL MARCO AL SANTO GRIAL-RELACION CON LA VIA LACTEA

 
VIA LACTEA / GALATAS 4:26 (UNGIMIENTO DE BETANIA) / LETRA G/ GOD / GOLD / GRIAL / DOG / GNOSIS / ESPIRAL / 7-4 / 4-7 / INDEPENDENCIA DE EEUU EN CANCER
 
 

Apocalipsis 22

Reina-Valera 1960 (RVR1960)

22  Después me mostró un río limpio de agua de vida, resplandeciente como cristal, que salía del trono de Dios y del Cordero.

En medio de la calle de la ciudad, y a uno y otro lado del río, estaba el árbol de la vida, que produce doce frutos, dando cada mes su fruto; y las hojas del árbol eran para la sanidad de las naciones. (Una referencia a la VIA LACTEA, EN EL CONTEXTO A LAS DOCE CONSTELACIONES, PATRON DEL DISEÑO DEL TABERNACULO, RODEADO DE LAS 12 TRIBUS DE ISRAEL EN EL ANTIGUO TESTAMENTO E INCLUSO TAMBIEN DE LA ESTRELLA DE 6 PUNTAS, TAMBIEN RELACIONADA CON EL NUMERO 12)

 

SON-OF-ORION-NILE

ORION – The Key To The Kingdom Of Heaven

 
SON-OF-ORION-NILE

Robert Bauval’s Comparison of Orion/Milky Way with Giza/Nile
 

The North Garden

This map comes with a description

Our northern tour starts at the three o'clock position when the sun enters the spring equinox. Follow the numbers in bold print. The outer circle represents the celestial equator which parallels earth's equator and divides the north and south hemisphere. The downward facing arc represents the sun's path through the zodiac.

Click the red target for areas of interest.

The South Garden

The south tour begins at the nine o'clock position when the sun enters the autumn solstice. The outer circle represents the celestial equator which parallels earth's equator and divides the north and south hemisphere. The upward facing arc represents the sun's path through the zodiac.

Click the red target for areas of interest.

 
 
LADDER/ESCALERA
A=COMPAS
L=ESCUADRA
 
GNOSIS=STAR GATE
NOSI=SION
ALSION (UBICADA A 33 GRADOS DESDE O DE ARIES)
43. Génesis 33:17: Y Jacob fue a Sucot, y edificó allí CASA para sí, e hizo cabañas para su ganado; por tanto, llamó el nombre de aquel lugar Sucot.
 
 
 
 

Y no habrá más maldición; y el trono de Dios y del Cordero estará en ella, y sus siervos le servirán,

y verán su rostro, y su nombre estará en sus frentes.

No habrá allí más noche; y no tienen necesidad de luz de lámpara, ni de luz del sol, porque Dios el Señor los iluminará; y reinarán por los siglos de los siglos.

La venida de Cristo está cerca

Y me dijo: Estas palabras son fieles y verdaderas. Y el Señor, el Dios de los espíritus de los profetas, ha enviado su ángel, para mostrar a sus siervos las cosas que deben suceder pronto.

!!He aquí, vengo pronto! Bienaventurado el que guarda las palabras de la profecía de este libro.

Yo Juan soy el que oyó y vio estas cosas. Y después que las hube oído y visto, me postré para adorar a los pies del ángel que me mostraba estas cosas. (ES UNA REFERENCIA ESOTERICA A JUAN MARCOS, HECHOS 12:12, EL HIJO DE CRISTO Y MARIA MAGDALENA, OSEA EL GRIAL)

Pero él me dijo: Mira, no lo hagas; porque yo soy consiervo tuyo, de tus hermanos los profetas, y de los que guardan las palabras de este libro. Adora a Dios.

10 Y me dijo: No selles las palabras de la profecía de este libro, porque el tiempo está cerca.

11 El que es injusto, sea injusto todavía; y el que es inmundo, sea inmundo todavía; y el que es justo, practique la justicia todavía; y el que es santo, santifíquese todavía.

12 He aquí yo vengo pronto, y mi galardón conmigo, para recompensar a cada uno según sea su obra.

13 Yo soy el Alfa y la Omega, el principio y el fin, el primero y el último. (EL SALMO 119, ESTA ESCRITO EN FUNCION A LAS 22 LETRAS HEBREAS. OSEA QUE EN UN CONTEXTO GRIEGO LA REFERENCIA AL ALFA Y EL OMEGA, ES EN EL CONTEXTO A LAS 22 LETRAS HEBREAS. EL DISEÑO DE LA TORRE EIFFEL EN FUNCION A DICHO SALMO, ES UNA REFERENCIA AL REGOCIJO EN LA TORA, OSEA EL OCTAVO DIA DE LA FIESTA DE LOS TABERNACULOS, LEVITICO 23:33, EN EL CUAL LOS JUDIOS LEEN EL SALMO 119, EL MISMO DIA 22/7 O 22 DE TISHRI. ESE ES EL SECRETO DE LA PI=22/7=3.14=DIA DE MARIA MAGDALENA EN EL MARCO A LA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE.)

 

 

 

LA GEMATRIA CONFIRMA LA RELACION DE MARIA MAGDALENA, EL CALENDARIO HEBREO, LA VIA LACTEA E INCLUSO EL MISMO SALMO 119-LAS MATEMATICAS SON EXACTAS PARA EL TODOPODEROSO

milky way in Simple Gematria Equals: 119 ( m 13 i9 l 12 k 11 y 25 0 w 23 a1 y 25 )
queen mary in Simple Gematria Equals: 119 ( q 17 u 21 e5 e5 n 14 0 m 13 a1 r 18 y 25  
hebrew calendar in Simple Gematria Equals: 119 ( h8 e5 b2 r 18 e5 w 23 0 c3 a1 l 12 e5 n 14 d4 a1 r 18
mary magdalene in Simple Gematria Equals: 119 ( m 13 a1 r 18 y 25 0 m 13 a1 g7 d4 a1 l 12 e5 n 14 e5  

 

NOTEN QUE LA PARTE INFEFIOR DE LA TORRE EIFFEL TIENE LA FORMA DE LA LETRA  GRIEGA OMEGA Y QUE LA PARTE SUPERIOR TIENE LA FORMA DE LA LETRA ALFA/A. ESTA TODO CALCULADO YHWH NOS MUESTRA MENSAJES SUBLIMINALES EN NUESTRAS NARICES Y NOSOTROS SEGUIMOS CON NUESTRA EGOLATRIA.

 

 

 

 

 
 

14 Bienaventurados los que lavan sus ropas, para tener derecho al árbol de la vida, y para entrar por las puertas en la ciudad.

15 Mas los perros estarán fuera, y los hechiceros, los fornicarios, los homicidas, los idólatras, y todo aquel que ama y hace mentira.

16 Yo Jesús he enviado mi ángel para daros testimonio de estas cosas en las iglesias. Yo soy la raíz y el linaje de David, la estrella resplandeciente de la mañana. (LA ESTRELLA DE LA MAÑANA, OSEA VENUS/SIRIO. ES UNA REFERENCIA A ISHTAR. PARIS ESTA DISEÑADO EN FUNCION A SIRIO COMO HE EXPUESTO EN MENSAJES ANTERIORES Y VENUS. NOTEN LA CLAVE DEL VERSICULO 22:16 ES UNA REFERENCIA AL 22/7=PI=3.14, OSEA A LA MISMA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE DISEÑADA EN FUNCION A VENUS/SIRIO)

17 Y el Espíritu y la Esposa dicen: Ven. Y el que oye, diga: Ven. Y el que tiene sed, venga; y el que quiera, tome del agua de la vida gratuitamente. (ISRAEL/VENCEDOR/VENUS/V=UTERO FEMENINO. ISIS-RA-ELOHIM. EL MISMO TERMINO ISRAEL TIENE CONNOTACION DE LA UNION ENTRE EL HOMBRE Y LA MUJER. TODO EL RITUAL DE LA MISA CATOLICA, EN FUNCION AL NUMERO 33, GIRA ALREDEDOR DE ESTE VERSICULO. EL CATOLICISMO ESOTERICO MANEJA CODIGOS QUE LOS FALSOS PROTESTANTES NO TIENEN NI IDEA.)
 
 
 

18 Yo testifico a todo aquel que oye las palabras de la profecía de este libro: Si alguno añadiere a estas cosas, Dios traerá sobre él las plagas que están escritas en este libro.

19 Y si alguno quitare de las palabras del libro de esta profecía, Dios quitará su parte del libro de la vida, y de la santa ciudad y de las cosas que están escritas en este libro.

20 El que da testimonio de estas cosas dice: Ciertamente vengo en breve. Amén; sí, ven, Señor Jesús.

21 La gracia de nuestro Señor Jesucristo sea con todos vosotros. Amén.

 
                              AMEN=33
 

 

 
 
 
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33 is not only a numerical representation of “the Star of David,” but also the numerical equivalent of AMEN: 1+13+5+14=33...

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AMEN ES CASI UN ANAGRAMA DE JUAN
GEMATRIA AMEN (INGLES)=33
NOTEN QUE ESTAN LA AM (V CORTA EN EL CENTRO), OSEA UNA REFERENCIA A LA ESTRELLA DE 6 PUNTAS
 
33 is not only a numerical representation of “the Star of David,” but also the numerical equivalent of AMEN: 1+13+5+14=33...
 
NOTEN QUE LA M TIENE LA V EN EL MEDIO OSEA QUE LA M=V
 
AMEN
JVAN
JOHN
J=10
0=15
H=8
N=14
JOHN=47
10+15+8=33
ROCK
R=18
O=15
C=3
K=11
RO=33
ROCK=47
NUMERO 47
NUMERO 47 (CUARTO MANDAMIENTO SEPTIMO DIA/G-D/D-G/47/74/IND.EEUU)

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 31/05/2014 03:23
 

« Arguments for John Mark as the Beloved Disciple »

Let us assume (and these are reasonable assumptions as we will further explain) these things:

1) that Salome, the mother of John and James, the sons of Zebedee, was the Virgin Mary’s sister — an assumption reached by comparing three verses: Mark 15:40 and Matthew 20:20; 27:56.

2) that John and James, the sons of Zebedee, were not given the names “sons of thunder” to flatter them; but rather because they were hot-tempered (and therefore unlovable) and always jockeying for special favor with Jesus, presumably their cousin by virtue of Mary being Salome’s sister. Indeed, the other disciples are often shown grumbling that John and James persist in asking Jesus if they will find special favor in the world to come.

3) that the apostle John, the son of Zebedee, who is one of two candidates for the writer of the Gospel of John, which by default makes him one of two candidates for the scholarly third-person identifier “the disciple whom Jesus loved,” was a fisherman’s son from Galilee and not a scholar who lived in Jerusalem and knew the high priests Annas and Caiaphas.

4) that Mary Magdalene does not deserve to be identified as “the disciple whom Jesus loved” by virtue of the fact that she is not a man named John, who would have written the Gospel of John, and by virtue of the fact that she is seen in the company of “the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved” at the empty tomb with Peter.

5) that the home of John Mark and his mother Mary served as the home where the actual last supper took place — and, that this home was located near the Garden of Gethsemane, to which Jesus and Peter, James and John journey immediately following the last supper.

6) that when John and James flee the Garden of Gethsemane upon seeing Judas and the Roman soldiers arrive that they do not later become emboldened and proceed to Golgotha to witness the crucifixion of Jesus.

7) that John Mark of Cyrene knew Simon of Cyrene (as indicated by Mark’s naming of his two sons Rufus and Alexander), who helped to carry Jesus’ cross.

8) that the Virgin Mary would not have wanted to witness the torturous execution of her son Jesus.

9) that John Mark was a scholar, having been trained in Cyrene in north Africa to read and write classical Greek, Latin and Hebrew.

10) that John Mark wrote the Gospel of Mark.

11) that John Mark is the only man named John to be placed near Ephesus, according to a letter written by Paul to Timothy, who at the time was in Ephesus, near Patmos, where the book of the Revelation of Jesus was written by a man named John.

12) that the controversy of which man named John is the writer of the Gospel of John and therefore “the beloved disciple” has been a topic for debate even among laymen since the third century.

13) that Leonardo da Vinci, having had three years to paint The Last Supper (from 1495 to 1498), did not mistakenly leave in his painting a hand holding a dagger without an arm or person attached behind the back of Judas — something which the Da Vinci Code never addresses.


None of these are in any way outrageous assumptions, but quite plausible and already readily accepted by most Bible scholars. If we assume all of these things … we can go through the following vague references to a man named John and a woman named Mary and end up with the identity of the true beloved disciple, the writer of the Gospel of John.

Now let us turn our attention to 19 vague references to people which appear in the gospels of Mark and John. We believe that taking into account these first 12 assumptions above that we can demonstrate that all but two of these references are references to African scholar John Mark. We contend that two of the 19 references are made to John Mark’s mother Mary.

1) “A certain youth” is found in Mark 14:51-52. — These verses along with John 19:25-27 are KEYSTONE verses, in that they are the two passages from the gospels of Mark and John which indicate tampering with the original gospel manuscripts. This Mark passage sticks out like the proverbial sore thumb, because without identifying the “certain youth” and what he was doing in the vicinity of the Garden of Gethsamene it very obviously has nothing to do with the narrative. That is a clue that the original passage was altered by someone who wished to obscure John Mark, whom scholars tend to believe was the “certain youth” anyway.

These unspecific verses about a seemingly unrelated event on the night that Jesus was arrested serve as the keystone upon which all of the vague references in John’s Gospel must be overlaid and considered.

2) “The disciple whom Jesus loved” is found in John 13:23. — This we know is a man named John.

Jesus thought enough of the beloved disciple — and Peter knew it — that Peter should be compelled to nudge John — “the disciple whom Jesus loved” — and ask him to ask Jesus who it would be who would betray Jesus. John had a special relationship with Jesus, which went beyond being a mere disciple. That’s an important point. It is the closeness of the relationship between John and Jesus that has precipitated the use of the vague and obscuring language; in other words, as we shall see the vaguely identified John in subsequent passages, whom we say is John Mark, became necessary to the alterer of the original manuscripts if the alterer was to be successful. Of all of the references to the person who serves as Jesus’ defender, which we shall see next, we would expect these references to be clear, i.e., we would expect the disciple to be named, and he is not.

Peter, as close as he was to Jesus, felt compelled to ask John to ask Jesus who was going to betray Jesus. John clearly had a familial relationship with Jesus — they were that close. It had to be a unique and very special relationship, one based on mutual trust and understanding, how a home boy would feel toward another.

3) “Another disciple” is found in John 18:15. — This is a man who is a scholar, scribe and likely a priest, having been known to the high priests Caiaphas and Annas.

4) “This disciple” is found in John 18:15. — This is a man who is a scholar, scribe and likely a priest.

5) “This other disciple” is found once in John 18:16. — This is a man who is a scholar, scribe and likely a priest.

Why would the person who was willing to go to bat for Jesus be unnamed? Surely this man, whom we say is scholar John Mark, was not just a casual acquaintance of the high priests Caiaphas and Annas. They must have trusted him, otherwise he doesn’t get an audience. And we would have to say that John Mark may have come very close to winning Jesus’ freedom because of what they thought of John Mark. This John (John Mark) lived and worked in Jerusalem. Zebedee’s John was a fisherman from Galilee, as Peter was. If Peter would deny Jesus repeatedly … why would Zebedee’s John do any differently? In fact, Zebedee’s John was nowhere to be found, having fled with his brother James.

Clearly, the unnamed disciple was a special person. But apparently not special enough to be named. Was the unnamed disciple’s name removed? In other words, was John Mark’s name ever used, was it used in the original manuscript? We will probably never know, but a name doesn’t appear here, and it is jarring. Mark 14:51-52 is the keystone: this person is a youth, younger than the other disciples, which John Mark was; the name has apparently been removed in these verses, rendering them nonsensical, irrelevant; then why does this passage appear at all if it seemingly has no bearing on the story? These verses appear as subterfuge: Because if John Mark is not wearing his priestly white linen garment … then he cannot be “the other disciple” who serves as Jesus’ defense counsel. Only a scribe, i.e., attorney could have argued effectively on Jesus’ behalf. John Mark was a scribe. From the second century B.C.E. forward … all Jewish scribes were also priests. So the white linen makes sense. It is the hidden John Mark who is the only person who could play this role. He is the thirteenth disciple.

6) “The other disciple, the one Jesus loved” is found in John 20:2. — This person is with Peter at the empty tomb. This person outruns Peter to the empty tomb. This person is not Mary Magdalene.

This is a very critical reference to the unnamed disciple, because Mary Magdalene is in the same scene with this person, i.e., “the other disciple, the one Jesus loved” — therefore removing any likelihood that Mary Magdalene was herself the beloved disciple. This is a critical passage also because it describes “the other disciple” as outrunning Peter to the empty tomb, something a younger man would be expected to do. But when John Mark got to the empty tomb … he did not go in. He was frightened. That would change. John would become bold and take a second name, a Greek name, Marcus, which some have tried to say means “deformed fingers”; it means “Hammer,” which is a testament to John Mark’s newfound boldness after seeing his friend crucified. John Mark must have been hated, and so he has been obscured.

7) “The other disciple” is found in John 20:3. — This is the same person as the one above.

8) “The other disciple” is found in John 20:4. — Ditto.

9) “The other disciple” is found in John 20:8. — Ditto.

10) “The disciples” is found in John 20:10. — This is Peter and the other disciple above.

11) “Two other disciples” found in John 21:2. — It is uncertain who these two disciples are; but we know they are not the sons of Zebedee, John and James, who are previously named in the same sentence.

This is a critical reference, too — for it distinguishes two unnamed disciples from the two sons of Zebedee, John and James. A pattern by this point has been established: wherever John Mark appears … there are only vague references. “The other disciple” could not have been Zebedee’s John in any of these other instances, so we assume based on previous assumptions that this must be John Mark … and one other person. The second disciple may have been added to confuse us.

12) “The disciple whom Jesus loved” is found in 21:7. — This is the writer of the Gospel of John.

This reference is made in the way that a scholar would use such a reference to identify himself, in the third person. I suspect that those who wanted to obscure John Mark took a cue from this sort of reference and the one in chapter thirteen in John’s Gospel, when John Mark as a scholar refers to himself in the third person. Those who tampered with these other verses took advantage of the ambiguity … to obscure the scholar.

13) “The other disciples” is found in John 21:8. — It is uncertain who these other disciples are.

14) “The disciple whom Jesus loved” is found in 21:20. — This is the writer of the Gospel of John.

15) “This disciple” is found in John 21:23. — This is the writer of the Gospel of John, whom Jesus says will likely not die. This person very likely lives to write the book of the Revelation of Jesus.

This is Jesus’ reply to Peter, who has asked Jesus if one of the disciples, whom we contend is John Mark, will escape martyrdom: “What is it to you if this disciple is not martyred? You worry about yourself.” This in effect is what Jesus says when Peter wants to know if the rumor is true that “this man,” “this disciple,” according to the grapevine, is not going to be martyred. Peter would have never raised the issue within earshot of Zebedee’s John if this person had been Zebedee’s John. And Jesus would never have played favorites, showing favoritism for Zebedee’s John or James over the other disciples. John and James, the sons of Zebedee, were also the sons of Salome, the sister of Jesus’ mother Mary, making John and James Jesus’ cousins. What cousin is beloved? What cousin is chosen over another cousin and called beloved?

16) “This disciple who testifies to these things” is found in John 21:24. — This person is the writer of the Gospel of John.

Here again, John Mark refers to himself in the third person as a scholar would do. Only John Mark is a scholar. I don’t know why other Bible scholars have not consulted the Coptic biography of John Mark written by Pope Shenouda III, the patriarch of the Holy See of St. Mark, but they haven’t (it appears in our “sky links” above under “Biography of St. Mark,” conveniently enough. New Testament commentaries which I have read pertaining to John Mark doubt that he was even the founder of the Coptic church in Alexandria, Egypt. The Coptic biography of John Mark is unequivocal in stating all that John Mark was, and he was a considerable force of early Christianity. The only thing the Copts get wrong has to do with the alleged martyrdom of John Mark, which cannot have occurred. For he lived on to write Revelation. Zebedee’s John, on the other hand, was expecting martyrdom … because Jesus told him and James that they would drink from the same cup as Jesus.

17) “The other Mary” is found in Matthew 28:1. — It is uncertain who this woman is, but note that she is described in the same way as “the other disciple.”

This Mary can be one of many other women named Mary, and there is a passel of them — which is why we should expect a more precise description of just which Mary this is. But it is a vague reference to this Mary, who, very notably, is in the presence of Mary Magdalene, who is already suspect certainly, not being the beloved disciple — and she is not because John Mark, the other disciple who is with her at the empty tomb, is. It is reasonable to assume that Mary, John Mark’s mother, would also be treated obscurely if any woman named Mary would be … for this John and Mary are the actual mother and son who appear at the foot of Jesus’ cross in John 19:25-27.

18) “The other Mary” is found in Matthew 28:61. — Ditto.

When these verses are cross-referenced, laid one on top of the other, with an understanding of motivations and John Mark’s actual background, national and educational, we come out at the distilled end with only one person who fits the criteria in all of these verses. And that is John Mark. It can be no one else. Bible scholars for years have avoided even weighing in on this subject, because it appeared unsolvable.

19) “The disciple whom Jesus loved” and Mary, the mother of Jesus” is found in John 19:25-27.

This famous passage reads as follows: “When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, ‘Woman, behold your son,’ and to the disciple, ‘Behold your mother.’ From that hour, this disciple took her into his home.”

Let’s assume the beloved disciple in this instance is John, the son of Zebedee, who fled Gethsemane earlier, abandoning Jesus. In Matthew 13:54-57, we’re presented with the strongest evidence as to why this famous passage in John as it is presently written doesn’t ring true. It reads: “Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked. “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor.”

Why would Jesus ask Zebedee’s John, a hot-tempered firebrand against whom the other disciples often grumbled, to take care of his mother Mary, when we know from this passage in Matthew that Jesus had at least four brothers, one of whom being James, who became the head of the church in Jerusalem, and sisters as well? This passage in John is even further made questionable by the possibility that the Virgin Mary was likely the aunt of the apostle John, as we have said, with Mary being the sister of Salome, whose sons were James and John, the sons of Zebedee.

Besides, as we have already stated … once Judas and the Roman soldiers arrive in Gethsemane, James and John, the sons of Zebedee, run for their lives, presumably not to be seen again until the book of Acts, when we learn that James, alas, is martyred, just as Jesus predicted. But what of John? James and John were inseparable. It is highly doubtful that James and John, having been told earlier by Jesus that they would be martyred … it is highly doubtful that they would have suddenly become bold enough to ascend Golgotha and watch Jesus as he was executed. Neither would Peter have been bold enough to ascend to Golgotha. And then of course there is the inescapable fact that John Mark is placed atop Golgotha, having followed as an eye-witness Jesus and Simon of Cyrene (very apparently known to John Mark of Cyrene), who would carry Jesus’ cross.

If the disciple whom Jesus loved in this instance was Zebedee’s John, this passage is odd. It makes sense if John Mark, who is already present at Golgotha, is the disciple whom Jesus loved. What Jesus then appears to be saying when he tells the two to “behold” one another … is not to perceive one another as mother and son anew … but to look after one another in Jesus’ physical absence. And this John Mark does, leaving Paul on the mission field to go home to Jerusalem, which caused the famous rift between Paul and John Mark. You’ll recall that Barnabas, after this fight, sides with John Mark … and they leave for Cyprus. Barnabas was the nephew of Mary, the mother of John Mark. And so Barnabas, too, may well have been an African. We also know that he was wealthy, as John Mark and his mother Mary apparently were.

Let us recap what we’ve said here: This passage, then, along with Mark 14:51-52, is a keystone passage, because it has apparently been tampered with, changing the person Mary, the mother of John Mark, to Mary, the mother of Jesus. John Mark and Mary were Jesus’ benefactors: wealthy Africans and unsung heroes of early Christianity. It is hard to imagine that Jesus’ mother would have wanted to be anywhere near Golgotha to see her son tortured and killed. And, as for John the apostle, he could not possibly be here, neither he nor his James, for they fled and abandoned Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane; nor is Peter here, he having denied even knowing Jesus. John Mark, as evidenced in Mark 15:21, is the only man named John to be present at Golgotha. And we know this because John Mark in the Gospel of Mark describes Simon of Cyrene, whom John Mark would have known along with Simon’s two sons Rufus and Alexander, because John Mark was himself from Cyrene. Only John Mark witnesses the selection of Simon and accompanies Simon and Jesus to the top of Golgotha.

Granted, we are making some pretty large assumptions here. But we’re being realistic when we say that John Mark was at the cross and Zebedee’s John along with Peter and James very likely were not. The passage makes sense if it is John Mark with his actual mother Mary.

Notably (and interestingly) John Mark is placed at Jesus’ cross despite the statements of Papias that John Mark “neither heard nor accompanied Jesus,” these beliefs of Papias coming on the word of a mysterious man named John, apparently known as Presbyter John.

This explanation makes an odd verse suddenly make sense. Jesus told actual mother and son to “behold” or look out for one another in his physical absence. It is of course possible that John Mark may have been standing with Mary, the mother of Jesus, but if Mary, the mother of Jesus, was John Mark’s aunt … it would make this verse odd. We have to assume that John the apostle never took Jesus’ mother to his home in Galilee to care for her, and so the Virgin Mary would never had gone to Ephesus, as Mary Magdalene is alleged to have done, where both are believed to have lived, died and been buried.

A German nun in 1951 initiated the apparently false rumor that the Virgin Mary lived in Ephesus with John, the son of Zebedee, and died there. But, of course, we have the tomb of the Virgin Mary in Jerusalem to refute that.

It bears noting that if this pair was John the apostle and Mary, the mother of Jesus, verse 27, which indicates they left for the beloved disciple’s home at “that very hour,” would suggest that it would have been very unlikely for John, who lived in Galilee, sixty miles to the north, to make the return trip to Jerusalem to be present at the empty tomb — which offers more validation that our interpretation of these verses is accurate.

FINAL NOTE: The Last Supper, as the painted is interpreted by the Da Vinci Code, we contend perpetrates a lie about the true beloved disciple, John Mark, who actually lived in the home where the actual last supper was held. Recognizing this and recognizing that the patron of The Last Supper was Ludovico Sfroza, a.k.a. “the Moor,” whose “justice,” Leonardo said, “was as black as he himself,” it is at least possible that Ludovico may have known about the biblical controversy over which man named John was the beloved disciple, and that one of them was an African. And we say this because in the painting where there should be a man named John being nudged by Peter there is a woman, whom the Da Vinci Code says is Mary Magdalene. She could be anyone. But is she John? No, we don’t think so, and that is because of the presence of the hand behind Judas’ back with no arm or person attached to it. The painting has obviously to our mind been repainted, and it very likely may have been to paint out Ludovico the Moor’s little joke of including John Mark, the hidden thirteenth disciple about whom we know so little. The painting disintegrated within decades after it was painted, being painted presumably on dry plaster, which would seem to be nothing that the master Leonardo would do in creating a fresco. A fresco is only a fresco if it is painted using wet plaster. The French invasion of Milan in 1499, which sent Ludovico and Leonardo packing, would have given anyone who wished to a chance to repaint the fresco, painting out one John or perhaps two, including John Mark, and also repainting Jesus. It is notable that the figure believed to be Mary Magdalene and Jesus himself are of a lighter pigment and style than the rest of the figures in the painting and their expressions, being demure and detached, do not fit the scene. Are The Last Supper then and the Da Vinci Code part of the coverup, which is like the one which appears in the New Testament gospels to obscure John Mark? And who would be responsible for a coverup going as far back possibly as the first century? Papias’ cryptic statement that “the presbyter John” told him that Mark was not a follower or hearer of Jesus … may be a clue.

The presbyter John of Papias’ day in the second century and/or Prester John, a mythical character about whom fanciful stories were told, are suspicious figures, indeed. But are they both fabrications or are they real? They never found Prester John, and, notably stopped looking for him in the seventeenth century reportedly in Ethiopia. Prester John, an Adamic figure, who was supposed to have been a mystical king and priest overseeing a land rich with gold and exotic animals, may have been subterfuge to convince people that there was nothing resembling Eden to be found in Ethiopia, and science today tells us otherwise.

Race is irrelevant, as God is invisible, spirit, indwelling all things. But as we can conclude from the conclusion we reach, race obviously has been the motivation to hide John Mark, but why? Because he was an African and Jesus’ closest friend? You can draw your own conclusions.

 
http://tanata.squarespace.com/journal/2009/4/15/arguments-for-john-mark-as-the-beloved-disciple.html

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13. 1 Timoteo 1:3: Como te rogué que te quedases en EFESO, cuando fui a Macedonia, para que mandases a algunos que no enseñen diferente doctrina,
 
14. 2 Timoteo 1:18: Concédale el Señor que halle misericordia cerca del Señor en aquel día. Y cuánto nos ayudó en EFESO, tú lo sabes mejor.
 
15. 2 Timoteo 4:12: A Tíquico lo envié a EFESO.
 
1. Apocalipsis 1:9: Yo Juan, vuestro hermano, y copartícipe vuestro en la tribulación, en el reino y en la paciencia de Jesucristo, estaba en la isla llamada PATMOs, por causa de la palabra de Dios y el testimonio de Jesucristo.


 

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Mark 15:21
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New International Version
A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross.

New Living Translation
A passerby named Simon, who was from Cyrene, was coming in from the countryside just then, and the soldiers forced him to carry Jesus' cross. (Simon was the father of Alexander and Rufus.)

English Standard Version
And they compelled a passerby, Simon of Cyrene, who was coming in from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to carry his cross.

New American Standard Bible
They pressed into service a passer-by coming from the country, Simon of Cyrene (the father of Alexander and Rufus), to bear His cross.

King James Bible
And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
They forced a man coming in from the country, who was passing by, to carry Jesus' cross. He was Simon, a Cyrenian, the father of Alexander and Rufus.

International Standard Version
They forced a certain passer-by named Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus, who happened to be coming in from the country, to carry Jesus' cross.

NET Bible
The soldiers forced a passerby to carry his cross, Simon of Cyrene, who was coming in from the country (he was the father of Alexander and Rufus).

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And they detained one who was passing by, Shimeon, a Cyrenian, who had come from the field, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to take up his cross.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
A man named Simon from the city of Cyrene was coming [into Jerusalem] from his home in the country. He was the father of Alexander and Rufus. As he was about to pass by, the soldiers forced him to carry Jesus' cross.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And they compel one Simon, a Cyrenian, who passed by coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross {Gr. stauros – stake}.

King James 2000 Bible
And they compelled one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming in from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.

American King James Version
And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.

American Standard Version
And they compel one passing by, Simon of Cyrene, coming from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to go with them , that he might bear his cross.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And they forced one Simon a Cyrenian who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and of Rufus, to take up his cross.

Darby Bible Translation
And they compel to go [with them] a certain passer-by, Simon, a Cyrenian, coming from the field, the father of Alexander and Rufus, that he might carry his cross.

English Revised Version
And they compel one passing by, Simon of Cyrene, coming from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to go with them, that he might bear his cross.

Webster's Bible Translation
And they constrain one Simon, a Cyrenian, who was passing by, coming from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.

Weymouth New Testament
One Simon, a Cyrenaean, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing along, coming from the country: him they compelled to carry His cross.

World English Bible
They compelled one passing by, coming from the country, Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to go with them, that he might bear his cross.

Young's Literal Translation
And they impress a certain one passing by -- Simon, a Cyrenian, coming from the field, the father of Alexander and Rufus -- that he may bear his cross,

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6. 2 Timoteo 4:11: Sólo Lucas está conmigo. Toma a MARCOs y tráele contigo, porque me es útil para el ministerio.

 

 
¿PORQUE ESTABA JUAN MARCOS EN EFESO CERCA DE LA ISLA DE PATMOS?
 

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Simon of Cyrene

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The fifth Station of the Cross, showing Simon of Cyrene helping Christ carry his cross. This particular station is located within St. Raphael's Cathedral, Dubuque, Iowa.
Painting by Rubens depicting scene from Luke 23:26–28: "And as they led him away they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross that he might bear it after Jesus. And there followed him a great company of people and of women which also bewailed and lamented him. But Jesus turning unto them said "Daughters of Jerusalem weep not for me but weep for yourselves and for your children". (King James Version). Alte Pinakothek, Munich

Simon of Cyrene (שמעון "Hearkening; listening", Standard Hebrew Šimʿon, Tiberian Hebrew Šimʿôn) was the man compelled by the Romans to carry the cross of Jesus as Jesus was taken to his crucifixion, according to all three Synoptic Gospels.[1][2][3]

And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.[2]

Because his home town, Cyrene, Libya, was located in northern Africa, a connection arose making Simon of Cyrene the first saintly Christian. Cyrene, a Greek colony, also had a Jewish community where 100,000 Judean Jews had settled during the reign of Ptolemy Soter (323–285 BC) and was an early center of Christianity.

Cyrene was also the destination of many "Sicari" dagger men who fled the Roman legions at the time of the Jewish Revolt. This was later to precipitate further Jewish insurrection in the area in the reign of Hadrian and Trajan. Robert Eisenman[4] shows that in the Jewish Talmud, Zelotes was called Kananaan, which suggests that Simon the Cananaan, Simon Zelotes and Simon Iskariot (Sicarii) of the Gospels may have been the same person. Eisenman suggest this was Simeon bar Cleophas, the cousin or perhaps the brother of Jesus who led the nascent Nazarene community to Pella during the Jewish revolt. If this is true, Simon of Cyrene, who helped Jesus carry the cross, may have been his own brother, who was also called Simon Cephas.

The Cyrenian Jews had a synagogue in Jerusalem, where many went for annual feasts.[5] Tradition states his sons Rufus and Alexander became missionaries; the inclusion of their names in Mark 15:21 may suggest that they were of some standing in the Early Christian community at Rome. It has also been suggested that the Rufus mentioned by Paul in Romans 16:13 is the son of Simon of Cyrene.[6] Some also link Simon himself with the "men of Cyrene" who preached the Gospel to the Greeks in Acts 11:20.[5] On the other hand, Simon's name does not prove he was Jewish, and Alexander and Rufus were both common names and may have referred to others.[7]

Simon's act of carrying the cross for Jesus is the fifth or seventh of the Stations of the Cross.[8] Some interpret the passage as indicating that Simon was chosen because he may have shown sympathy with Jesus.[5] Others point out that the text itself says nothing, that he had no choice, and there is no basis to consider the carrying of the cross an act of sympathetic generosity.[7] The Passion of the Christ film portrays him as a Jew being forced by the Romans to carry the cross, who at first is unwilling, but as the journey to Mount Calvary continues shows compassion to Jesus and helps him make it to the top.

According to some Gnostic traditions, Simon of Cyrene, by mistaken identity, suffered the events leading up to the crucifixion, and died on the cross instead of Jesus. This is the story presented in the Second Treatise of the Great Seth, although it is unclear whether Simon or another actually died on the cross.[9] This is part of a belief held by some Gnostics that Jesus was not of flesh, but only took on the appearance of flesh (see also Basilides, Irenaeus, and Swoon hypothesis).

A burial cave in Kidron Valley discovered in 1941 by E. L. Sukenik, belonging to Cyrenian Jews and dating before AD 70, was found to have an ossuary inscribed twice in Greek "Alexander Son of Simon." It cannot, however, be certain that this refers to the same person.[10][11]

Cyrenian movement[edit]

The Cyrenian or Simon movement, centered in the United Kingdom and Ireland, takes its name from Simon of Cyrene. It has as its guiding principle "sharing the burden" which it uses to explain its approach to providing services to homeless and other disadvantaged groups in society, often using volunteers.[12]

In popular culture[edit]

Poet Ridgely Torrence wrote a play about him titled Simon the Cyrenian. A 1920 YWCA production of this play was directed by Dora Cole, sister of composer Bob Cole, and starred Paul Robeson.[13]

Christian singer Ray Boltz's song "Watch the Lamb" is about Simon of Cyrene's role in Christ's crucifixion.

The character of Simon of Cyrene appears in several films about the last day of Jesus:

References[edit]

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_of_Cyrene

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Revelation 1:1 This is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things which must happen soon, which he sent and made known by his angel to his servant, John,

Revelation 1:4 John, to the seven assemblies that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from God, who is and who was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits who are before his throne;

Revelation 1:9 I John, your brother and partner with you in oppression, Kingdom, and perseverance in Christ Jesus, was on the isle that is called Patmos because of God's Word and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 20:8 and he will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war; the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

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PATMOS

pat'-mos (Patomos; Italian: San Giovanni di Patino): A Turkish island of the group Sporades, Southwest of Samos, mentioned once in the Bible, Revelation 1:9, "I, John.... was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God and the testimony of Jesus" (dia ton logon tou theou kai ten marturian Iesou). The island is 10 miles long, and about 6 broad along the northern coast. It is for the most part rocky. The highest part is Mount Elias, which rises to a height of over 800 ft. As in Greece, and in the adjacent mainland of Asia Minor, the land is treeless. Near the city of Patmos there is a good harbor. A famous monastery, Christodulos, was founded on the island in 1088. Near this is a thriving school, attended by students from all parts of the Archipelago. The population of the island numbers 3,000, almost entirely Greek. The ancient capital was on an isthmus between the inlets of La Scala and Merika. Many ruins can still be seen. The huge walls of Cyclopean masonry, similar to those at Tiryns, attest their great age. In Roman times Patmos was one of the many places to which Rome banished her exiles. In 95 A.D., according to a tradition preserved by Irenaeus, Eusebius, Jerome and others, John was exiled here-in the 14th year of the reign of Domitian-whence he returned to Ephesus under Nerva (96 A.D.). The cave in which he is said to have seen his visions is still pointed out to the traveler. Only a small part of the once valuable library in the monastery of Christodulos is left. Just 100 years ago (1814) Mr. E.D. Clark purchased here the manuscript of Plato which is now in the Bodleian Library, the celebrated Clarkianus, a parchment written in the year 895, and admittedly the best of all for the 1st of the 2 volumes into which the works of Plato were divided for convenience. Patmos is mentioned by Thucydides (iii.33), by Pliny (NH, iv.23), and by Strabo (x.5).

See also JOHN, THE APOSTLE; REVELATION OF JOHN.

LITERATURE.

Tozer, The Islands of the Aegean (1890), 178-95; Walpole, Turkey (London, 1820), II, 43; E.D. Clark, Travels (London, 1818), VI, 2; Ross, Reisen (Stuttgart, 1840), II; Guerin, Description de l'Ile de Patmos (Paris, 1856).

J. E. Harry

 


PATMOS, a bare rocky island in the AEgean Sea, 32 ms. w. of Asia Minor; now Patino (pron. Pa-tee'no). It is about 4 ms. across e. and w., 7 ms. n. and s., of somewhat semicircular form, the concave side being on the east.
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G3963: Patmos

Patmos, an island in the Aegean Sea

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Acts 18:19 He came to Ephesus, and he left them there; but he himself entered into the synagogue, and reasoned with the Jews.

Acts 18:21 but taking his leave of them, and saying, "I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem, but I will return again to you if God wills," he set sail from Ephesus.

Acts 18:24 Now a certain Jew named Apollos, an Alexandrian by race, an eloquent man, came to Ephesus. He was mighty in the Scriptures.

Acts 19:1 It happened that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul, having passed through the upper country, came to Ephesus, and found certain disciples.

Acts 19:17 This became known to all, both Jews and Greeks, who lived at Ephesus. Fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.

Acts 19:26 You see and hear, that not at Ephesus alone, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul has persuaded and turned away many people, saying that they are no gods, that are made with hands.

Acts 19:26 You see and hear, that not at Ephesus alone, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul has persuaded and turned away many people, saying that they are no gods, that are made with hands.

Acts 19:27 Not only is there danger that this our trade come into disrepute, but also that the temple of the great goddess Artemis will be counted as nothing, and her majesty destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worships."

Acts 19:35 When the town clerk had quieted the multitude, he said, "You men of Ephesus, what man is there who doesn't know that the city of the Ephesians is temple keeper of the great goddess Artemis, and of the image which fell down from Zeus?

Acts 20:16 For Paul had determined to sail past Ephesus, that he might not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hastening, if it were possible for him, to be in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost.

Acts 20:17 From Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called to himself the elders of the assembly.

Acts 20:18 When they had come to him, he said to them, "You yourselves know, from the first day that I set foot in Asia, how I was with you all the time,

Acts 20:22 Now, behold, I go bound by the Spirit to Jerusalem, not knowing what will happen to me there;

1 Corinthians 15:32 If I fought with animals at Ephesus for human purposes, what does it profit me? If the dead are not raised, then "let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die."

1 Corinthians 16:8 But I will stay at Ephesus until Pentecost,

Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, to the saints who are at Ephesus, and the faithful in Christ Jesus:

1 Timothy 1:3 As I urged you when I was going into Macedonia, stay at Ephesus that you might command certain men not to teach a different doctrine,

2 Timothy 1:18 (the Lord grant to him to find the Lord's mercy in that day); and in how many things he served at Ephesus, you know very well.

2 Timothy 4:12 But I sent Tychicus to Ephesus.

Revelation 1:11 saying, " What you see, write in a book and send to the seven assemblies : to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and to Laodicea."

Revelation 2:1 "To the angel of the assembly in Ephesus write: "He who holds the seven stars in his right hand, he who walks among the seven golden lampstands says these things:

 
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