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From: BARILOCHENSE6999  (Original message) Sent: 15/06/2011 00:03


The only way the Hebrew speaking Jews and the Greek speaking Jews could have arrived at Pentecost on the same day is by Lunar Sabbaths. This is an absolute because the word Sabbath in Leviticus 23:11 is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath and thousands of people have this knowledge including the Hebrew speaking Jews.

On the other hand, thousands of people including the Greek speaking Jews have the knowledge that the morrow after the Sabbath is referring to the 16th (Day after the 15th/weekly Sabbath) of the first month every year because in the Greek Septuagint it says, “on the morrow of the first day the Priest shall of wave it”, it is a FACT that the first day in the Septuagint is referring to the 15th or first day of unleavened bread, and the morrow after the 15th, (or 1st day), is the 16th.

We know from the book of Acts that they where Greek speaking Jews as well as Hebrew speaking Jews from every nation kindred and tongue, including Greek speaking Jews from Alexander Egypt, gathered for the day of Pentecost. Some read from the Septuagint and some read from the Hebrew text and both had to have known that the 15th was the weekly Sabbath because they were at Pentecost on the same day and started there count from the same day.

The point is this, when these Greek speaking Jews read the Septuagint and started their count for Pentecost on the morrow after the 15th every year and they arrived on the same day as the Hebrew speaking Jews that began the count on the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, this can only mean one thing and that is that the Hebrew speaking Jews and the Greek speaking Jews understood the 15th to be the weekly Shabbat and they started their count for Pentecost on the same day as the Greek speaking Jews that read from the Septuagint, i.e. from the morrow of the 1st day of unleavened bread. 

In other words, these thousands of people on both sides are right because the ones that believe the morrow after the 15th, which is the 16th, is right and the ones that believe the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, which is the 16th is right.

Later on their fathers had compromised the lunar week for the Roman week and the Pentecost debate began.

Both Josephus and Philo records that the count for Pentecost begins on the 16th which is the morrow after the Sabbath and the Septuagint was read and quoted from, same as the Hebrew text, and everyone was at Pentecost on the same day and there was no controversy among them concerning Pentecost until they adopted the false Roman week that is followed today.

The Universally Jewish Encyclopedia and another 100-year-old Jewish Encyclopedia by Funk & Wag, both records that ancient Israel originally kept lunar weeks and lunar Sabbaths.

Philo the Jew, which lived at the same time our Saviour did, records that the weeks were by the moon and also Clement of Alexander. Most people know that the month were originally by the moon but failed to realize that the 4 phases of the moon were used for the weeks.

At the end of a Roman week you have a Roman sabbath and at the end of a Lunar week you have a Lunar Sabbath.

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Amos 8 Proves Pentecost in the 4th month

Amos 8:4-6

4Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail, 5Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit? 6That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the "refuse" of the wheat?

It is likely that the merchants would have said this around wheat harvest, when the "refuse"/chaff of the wheat was still handy and everyone was anticipating the new grain, not something that they would say every New month/moon.


The Hebrew word for “refuse” is






From H5307; a falling off, that is, chaff; also something pendulous, that is, a flap:—flake, refuse.


The only time I see that they could sale this chaff would be at the beginning of the wheat harvest when everyone was busy buying the fresh grain.


Another reasonthat Amos 8 fit quite well with lunar Sabbatarians doctrine of my persuasion is because the “very first day” that the new (Pentecost) wheat harvest can be set forth for sale is “always” after the last weekly Sabbath of the month/moon (on the 29th) which is “always” followed by a one or two day new moon feast and this is likely when this statement would be made by the wicked, “When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat,”  i.e. the earliest anyone could sale wheat would be after the new moon day.

The crooked merchants could hardly wait for the Sabbath and new moon day to be over so they could cheat the people in selling them grain from this new fresh wheat, which was mixed with the refuse (chaff). The chaff should be separated from the wheat but the chaff could be mixed in with the wheat around Pentecost and sold "after" the Sabbath and new moon had passed but not before. i.e. you have Pentecost then Sabbath then new moon and then they could set the wheat out for sale but no one would sale or buy it until after the new moon and Sabbath was gone.

The reason I believe that the vision that Amos 8 is talking about is one the three festival/chag each year, which is always celebrated at one of the three harvests, Passover, Pentecost, or tabernacles, is because,

#1. Singing in the temple is mentioned in verse 3, and singing on the Chag/feast is a Law of YHWH.


 Psalm 81


1    Sing aloud unto Elohim our strength: make a joyful noise unto the Elohim of Jacob.

2    Take a psalm, and bring hither the timbrel, the pleasant harp with the psaltery.

3    Blow up the trumpet in the new moon/month, in the time appointed/full moon, on our solemn “feast” day/Chag.

  • For this was a statute for Israel, and a “law” of the Elohim of Jacob.


So we see here that singing on the Chag/feast is a Law of YHWH and this is what they were doing in Amos 8:1

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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 15/06/2011 00:04

#2 Amos was shown a basket of summer fruit in verse 1 & 2 and in Deuteronomy YHWH commanded that the firstfruits of the harvests was to be brought in a basket, on these feasts/Chags which always commemorates something.







1And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which YHWH thy Elohim giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein; 2That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that YHWH thy Elohim giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which YHWH thy Elohim shall choose to place his name there. 3And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days, and say unto him, I profess this day unto YHWH thy Elohim, that I am come unto the country which YHWH sware unto our fathers for to give us. 4And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of YHWH thy Elohim. 5And thou shalt speak and say before YHWH thy Elohim, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: 6And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage: 7And when we cried unto YHWH Elohim of our fathers, YHWH heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression: 8And YHWHbrought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great terribleness, and with signs, and with wonders: 9And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O YHWH, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before YHWH thy Elohim, and worship before YHWH thy Elohim: 11And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which YHWH thy Elohim hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.



The above is on a Chag and so far we have seen the commanded singing that takes place on the Chag and the basket of the summer firstfruits that is commanded to be brought on the Chag but is the word for feast/Chag mentioned in Amos 8 which would conclusively prove that Amos 8 has to do with a Pilgrim festival/Chag? Yes it is mentioned in verse 10.



10And I will turn your feasts (Chag) into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day.



The commanded feast/Chag is going to be changed from a day of singing and rejoicing to a day of mourning for the wicked that is spoken of in verse 4 which are concerned more with the feast and new moon being over so they can sale the grain and cheat the poor, than keeping the commandments of YHWH.


I believe that Amos 8 is a vision of the end time when our Saviour comes (on the day of Pentecost) to gather His wheat into the barn and destroy the wicked and we are told that day should not take us unawares and most people do not even know when the true Pentecost is.  There are many Scriptures that prove He is coming again on Pentecost as He did on Mount Sinai when He came with 10 thousands of his saints and gave the Law to Moses, written in stone, (3000 souls destroyed) and as He came on the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts and put His laws in their heart by the Holy Spirit (3000 souls saved).  I have many Scriptures to support a Pentecost second coming but that is not the intent here.



If Amos 8 had to do with a feast/Chag, and I believe it does, it has to be the feast of Pentecost/Chag because the New Moon is mentioned which does not fit with the feast of Passover, Tabernacles, or the traditional count of 50 days from wave sheaf which is around 6 days after the New Moon of the 3rd month is over. 


The reason the Amos 8 feast does not fit with the Passover Chag when the new barley crop is ready on the morrow after the Sabbath that the Priest waves the wave sheaf is because the new moon is still approximately 15 days away and there would be no need to say when will the new moon be gone that we may sale barley.  Notice the grain in Amos 8 was talking about wheat and summer wheat at that.  The barley and Winter wheat are spring crops.  The same will be the true for the Chag/Feast of Tabernacles which is also on the 15th and is not near a new moon day.  And as I said above, the traditional Pentecost is after the new moon of the third month and there would be no need for such a statement as “when will the new moon be gone.”


Philo also called the Pentecost wheat summer fruit and when I was growing up we had bushel baskets, peck basket etc. to put the fruit of corn, peas, etc. in.



The bottom line is if Amos 8 has to do with a feast/Chag, it conclusively proves a fourth month Pentecost because that is the only way it can be because of the new moon.




Tracing the count to Pentecost from the wave sheaf in the first month to the day that Aaron proclaimed was a feast/Chag to YHWH in the fourth month instead of the traditional third month Pentecost.

If we can successfully trace the count from the wave sheaf to a day that Aaron proclaimed was a Chag, (Hebrew word for one the three  major feasts of YHWH), it conclusively proves that Leviticus 23:15-16 should be interpreted or understood that there are "TWO" counts involved in counting to Pentecost, one for the seven Sabbath complete and the other for the 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath. The instructions were to count seven sabbaths and number 50 days.

 (Leviticus 23:15-16)

15And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16Even unto the morrow "after" the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

The  following chart shows that if you count seven lunar sabbaths complete (which do not include New Moon days when counting out the weeks) unto the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath and then number 50 days, it will be the exact same day that Aaron, YHWH high priest, proclaims a Chag to YHWH.

Remember  Chag is a very specific Hebrew word which is only used to refer to one the three major feasts of YHWH and is NEVER used any other way. It was in the fourth month that Aaron proclaimed it which rules out Unleavened Bread and Tabernacles, leaving only "Pentecost" which was AFTER  50 days were numbered AFTER the 7th Lunar Sabbath complete as Lev-23:16 calls for.



"1st Month"

 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8th/Sabbath 9 10 11 12 13 14th the Lamb slain between the evenings

 15th Sabbath and 1st day of feast of Unleavened Bread and day Houses Passed over in Egypt and thrust out of Rameses Num-33:3

16th is wave sheaf and "beginning" of count for the "7 sabaths" complete.

17 18 19 20 21 22nd "1st Sabbath" 23 24 25 26 27 28 29th"2nd Sabbath".


"2nd Month "

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8th "3rd  Sabbath" 9 10 11 12 13 14 15th "4th Sabbath"

16th - 1st day of manna (Ex-16:1-29) 17 18 19 20 21 22nd "5th Sabbath" 23 24 25

26 27 28 29th "6th Sabbath"


 " 3rd Month"


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8th "7th Sabbath"complete and the "9th" day is the "first day" "AFTER" 7th Sabbath and the 1st day of the SECOND count where you are to NUMBER 50 days and then bring a new meat offering to YHWH.  Lev-23:15-16

10th is 2nd day after 11/3rd 12/4th 13/5th 14/6th 15 is Sabbath and 7th day of the count

16/8th day of the count to Pentecost and day they came to the Mount (Ex-19:1-3) see alsoThe Book Of Jubilees Ch. 1:1 they were also told on 16th to be ready for 3rd day Ex-19:11

17/9th day of count 18/10th day of count and it was also the 3rd day when YHWH spoke to people (Ex-19:10-24)

19/11th day of count and also 1st day that Moses goes Into Mt. for 40 days and 40 nights. Ex-24:4-18

 20/12th day of count and 2nd day Moses in mt. 21/13th  22/Sabbath and 14th day of count to Pentecost 23/15th  24/16th

25/17th  26/18th  27/19th  28/20th  29th/Sabbath and 21st day of the count to Pentecost and a 30 day month would make it the 22nd day of the count to Pentecost.


"4th Month"


Reply  Message 3 of 309 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 15/06/2011 00:04

1/23rd day of count 2/24th  3/25th  4/26th  5/27th  6/28th  7/29th  8th/30th and Sabbath

9/31st day of count 10th 32ndday of count 11/33rd   12/34th  13/345th  14/36th  15th Sabbath and 37th day of count to Pentecost

16/38th  17/39th  18/40th  19/41st day of count 20/42nd  21/43rd  22/44th  23/45th

24/46th  25/47th  26/48th  27/49th  28th/50th "DAY" is numbered and then the New Meat offering is brought on  the 29th Sabbath. The beginning of the 29th was the 40th NIGHT of Moses's stay in the Mount and the 29th morning is the day that the Law and tables of stone was ACTUALLY given to Moses Ex-31:18 and Deut- 9:11 as YHWH promased inEx-24:12   which was "AFTER" the 50th day was numbered. It was the day the Law was given, and the only way to Commemorate this Monumental event on the same day is to follow the instruction that was given by YHWH, not man.

 Brother Arnold




I can show where the "ancient Celtic" people observed the "firstfruits" of the "wheat harvest" in the "summertime" around the last day of "July" or the first day of August which is in harmony with counting the 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath complete instead of 50 days from the wave sheaf or after the first Sabbath.

The following was gleaned from web sites under "Lammus" which means "loaf mass" although paganism has crept in as it has in all the feast of YHWH, we can still get an idea of how things were done if we know the scriptures.

Kathleen Dupree

The "grain is ripe for harvest". Apple trees and gardens bear forth the fruits of "summer." This is the time of "Lughnasadh," the ancient Celtic festival held in celebration of the "first fruits" of the harvest.
The modern Irish spelling, Lúnasa, is the name of the month of "August' in Irish Gaelic. Lughnasadh, an older spelling, is often used to designate the name of the seasonal festival that surrounds the "first" day of the month of August. In Scots Gaelic the day is known as Lunasda or Lunasdal. This is the time that marks a rest from labor, a time to take stock of what the "summer sun" has yielded. It is a time to celebrate and enjoy the outcome of our daily toil.
At this gathering were held games and contests of skill as well as a great feast made up of the first fruits of the summer harvest.


In the Celtic nations of Europe traditions surrounding Lughnasadh still continue from pre-Christian times. Most often, celebration of the holiday occurs on the first Sunday of August or the Sunday just before the first day of August. In modern Ireland the tradition still continues that on the last Sunday of "July" families ascend into the hills of the countryside to pick bilberries. The bilberries are symbolic of the bounty of Mother Earth at this time of year and of the fruits harvested in that ancient time when Tailltiu made a place for the grain that would feed the generations to come after her. With the coming of Christianity to the Celtic lands, the old festival of Lughnasadh took on Christian symbolism. Loaves of bread were baked from the first of the harvested grain and placed on the church altar on the first Sunday of August. The Christianized name for the feast of Lughnasadh is Lammas which means "loaf mass". And, of course, there are the fairs which are still held all across Europe and America.

Lughnasadh (Old Irish pronounced IPA: [lu¢°nəsə>) is a Gaelic holiday celebrated on the first of August, or at the time of the ripening of the local berry crop, or on the full moon nearest the midpoint between the summer solstice and autumnal equinox.


Ancient celebration
Lughnasadh was one of the four main festivals of the medieval Irish calendar: Imbolc at the beginning of February, Beltane on the first of May, Lughnasadh in August and Samhain in October. The early Celtic calendar was based on the lunar, solar, and vegetative cycles, so the actual calendar date was variable. Lughnasadh marked the beginning of the harvest season, the ripening of "first fruits," and was traditionally a time of community gatherings, market festivals, horse races and reunions with distant family and friends. Among the Irish it was a favored time for handfastings - trial marriages that would generally last a year and a day, with the option of ending the contract before the new year, or later formalizing it as a more permanent marriage.[1>[2>[3>

One historical example of handfastings as trial marriages is that of "Telltown marriages" - named for the year and a day trial marriages contracted at the yearly festival held in Telltown, Ireland. The festival took place every year at Lughnasadh (August 1), and the trial marriage would last until the next Lughnasadh festival. At that time, they were free to leave the union if they desired.

August 1 is the 213th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar (214th in leap years), with 152 days remaining.

Lughnasadh 2006
Lughnasadh (pronounced lune-ah-sah) was "a summer festival of the ancient Celts," celebrated around August 1. My understanding is that it is known that it was celebrated at either the full moon or the new moon closest to the midpoint between the summer solstice and the autumnal equinox. Since the midpoint is on August 6th, that means that this year, Lughnasadh falls on either July 25 (the new moon).

Colors: Gray, green, gold, yellow
Symbols: All grains, breads, threshing tools, athame
Date: Occurs 1/4 of a year after Beltaine. True astrological point is 15 degrees Leo, but tradition has set August 1st as the day it is typically celebrated. Since the Ancients Celts passed their days from sundown to sundown, the celebration would usually begin the night before on July 31st.


This "sabbat" is also known as the celebration of bread. As bread was one of the main staples of our ancestors, the ripening of the grain was the cause for great celebration. The reaping, threshing and preparation of these breads spawned great ritual and ceremony to ensure bounty for the following year.

This time of the year finds us with fields to harvest, the first of a bountiful crop that will hold us through the winter months. Even though the hottest days of summer are upon us, we have but to observe to see that fall is just around the corner. Shadows are growing longer as the days slowly become shorter. Squirrels are busily gathering food for the coming winter. It is a time to begin canning produce from the garden, a time to save and preserve.

Some ideas for celebration include:
• Sacrifice bad habits and unwanted things from your life by throwing symbols of them into the sabbat fire.
• Bake a loaf of bread in the shape of a man and sacrifice him in your ritual. Make him a part of your feast but save a piece to offer the gods.
• Take time to actually harvest fruits from your garden with your family. If you don’t have a garden, visit one of the pick-your-own farms in your area.
• Include bilberries or blueberries in your feast; these were a traditional fruit, whose abundance was seen as an indicator of the harvest to come.
• Gather the tools of your trade and bless them in order to bring a richer harvest next year.
• Share your harvest with others who are less fortunate.
• Decorate with sickles, scythes, fresh vegetables & fruits, grains, berries, corn dollies, bread. Colors are orange, gold, yellow, red and bronze.

January - Wolf Moon
February - Storm Moon
March - Chaste Moon
April - Seed Moon
May - Hare Moon
June - Dyad Moon July - Mead Moon
"August – “Corn Moon”
September - Harvest Moon
October - Blood Moon
November - Snow Moon
December - Cold Moon

Bilberries are rarely cultivated but fruits are sometimes collected from wild plants growing on publicly accessible lands, notably in Fennoscandia, Scotland, Ireland and Poland. Notice that in Fennoscandia, it is an everyman's right to collect bilberries, irrespective of land ownership. In Ireland the fruit is known as fraughan in English, from the Irish fraochán, and is traditionally gathered on the last Sunday in July, known as Fraughan Sunday.

Bilberries were also collected at Lughnassadh, the first traditional harvest festival of the year, as celebrated by the Gaelic people. The crop of billberries was said to indicate how well the rest of the crops would fare in their harvests later in the year.

In English-speaking countries, August 1 is Lammas Day or loaf-mass day, the festival of the first wheat harvest of the year. On this day it was customary to bring to church a loaf made from the new crop. In many parts of England, tenants were bound to present freshly harvested wheat to their landlords on or before the first day of August. In the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, where it is referred to regularly, it is called "the feast of first fruits". The blessing of new fruits was performed annually in both the Eastern and Western Churches on the first, or the sixth, of August. The Sacramentary of Pope Gregory I (d. 604) specifies the sixth.

In "mediæval times" the feast was known as the "Gule of August", but the meaning of "gule" is unknown. Ronald Hutton suggests that it may be an Anglicisation of gwyl aust, the Welsh name for August 1 meaning "feast of August", but this is not certain. If so, this points to a pre-Christian origin for Lammas among the Anglo-Saxons and a link to the Gaelic festival of Lughnasadh

The Old Ways: Lammas
by Doug and Sandy Kopf

Lammas, the festival of the First Fruits of the Harvest, is the first festival of the Waning Year. It is celebrated on July 31, while the climate (in the United States) is essentially still Summer.

Lammas takes its name from the Old English "hlaf," meaning "loaf" and "maesse," meaning “feast”. Lammas has often been taken to mean Lamb-mass, because on August 1, the next day, is the Feast of St. Peter's Chains, at which lambs are taken to church for blessing. (Can't you just picture a priest of the early Church saying, "Lammas? We can do that HERE! Just tell them to bring their lambs to Church!)

This festival is also called "Lugnasadh" (Loo-nah-sah), which has an entirely different meaning. The element "nasadh" relates to the Gaelic, "to give in marriage," and so would mean the "Marriage of Lug," rather than Lugh's Mass, which is a common interpretation. There is also some debate as to who the bride is, if there is one. Some authorities favor Tailltiu (Lugh's foster mother) and others favor Eriu, i.e., Ireland, herself.

Although we do not celebrate a marriage at this time, preferring the loaf-feast concept, it is interesting to note that July 31 is exactly nine months prior to Beltane, which was once celebrated as the beginning of the New Year.

Until recent years, in Scotland, the first cut of the Harvest was made on Lammas Day, and was a ritual in itself. The entire family must dress in their finest clothing and go into the fields. The head of the family would lay his bonnet (hat) on the ground and, facing the Sun, cut the first handful of corn with a sickle. He would then put the corn Sun-wise around his head three times while thanking the God of the Harvest for "corn and bread, food and flocks, wool and clothing, health and strength, and peace and plenty." This custom was called the "Iolach Buana."

In the British Isles, the custom of giving the First Fruits to the Gods evolved into giving them to the landlord. Lammas is now the traditional time for tenant farmers to pay their rent. Thus, Lammas is seen as a day of judgment or reckoning. From this practice comes the phrase "--at latter Lammas", meaning "never", or "not until Judgment Day."

An old custom that can be re-created today is the construction of the Kern-baby or corn maiden at Lammas. This figure, originally made from the first sheaf, would be saved until spring, "then" ploughed into the field to prepare for planting. (The Maiden thus returns to the field at Spring.) Most of us, today, have no first sheaf nor shall we prepare a field at Spring, but as a means of adding continuity to our festivals, the maiden can be made from the husks of corn served at the Lammas Feast, then saved for use as a brideo'g at Candlemas.

"We have come together here on this August Eve, to celebrate Lammas, the First Harvest, and the first day of the harvesting season. In these more modern times it may be hard for some of us to relate to the old ways of farming, planting and harvesting crops. Of deciding what seeds to keep for future planting. The work of the harvest, the chopping away and turning under of the chafe. Even though most of us no longer farm, Lammas is still a time when we should stop and consider what has happened in the past seasons of our lives and what we expect to take place in the seasons to come. This is a time to be aware of the things we have for which we are grateful and decide what things we need to let go of and let pass away from us."

"Lammas was the medieval Christian name for the Celtic holiday of Lughnasadh. Lammas literally translates 'loaf-mass' and is the Feast of Bread in August. Lammas is a time of appreciation for nature, for Mother Earth and her gifts. In ancient times on this day loaves were baked from the first grain harvest and laid on the church altars as offerings. At this time the best of the first fruits of the harvest were sacrificed in order to ensure that future crops would be even better and more bountiful. Our Ancestors understood that we must first give in order to receive."

Even the Oak trees observe first fruits in the 4th month.

 In August at the height of the summer when most other trees are wilting from the heat, the oak produces a new leaf called “Lammas shoots” thus adding new colour and freshness to the tree. These new leafy shoots are golden-pink when young, turning from pale to dark green as they harden. In autumn the oak tree is at its most majestic as its leaves change colour again turning from dark green to various shades of yellow, orange, russet and a pale golden brown. The leaves sometime stay on the tree until the following spring or until the new buds forming for the next year push them off.

I could comment on these and might later but the evidence clearly shows a later Pentecost was observed by ancient Israel.

See True Pentecost at http://lunarsabbath.info/id4.html


For more information you may call or write to:
Bro. Arnold Bowen
3466 Hightower Tr.
Conyers, Georgia 30012 USA
Or call (770) 483-8542
Email to: YHWHpeople@aol.com


Reply  Message 4 of 309 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 30/06/2011 16:36
¿casualidad o causalidad? ¿No es otra evidencia que  PENTECOSTES es en luna llena?

Reply  Message 5 of 309 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 30/06/2011 16:38





Corinne Heline







Así como la Luna Nueva marca el tiempo de los nuevos comienzos de

Rededicación y Reconsagración a los más elevados ideales a los que uno

pueda aspirar, así la Luna Llena marca el tiempo de Realización, Logro y

Cumplimiento, las tres palabras que expresan su tónica espiritual. Y

como el Bautismo que generalmente se observaba en época de Luna

Nueva como la ceremonia de rededicación y reconsagración del Ego a

eso, lo más elevado en el hombre, el Dios Interior, así también la

profundización de la realización, la exaltación del logro espiritual, y la

gloria del sublime cumplimiento están todos incluidos en el hermoso

ceremonial de la Fiesta del Amor Místico o Eucaristía, que en los

Templos de Misterio se celebraba en la noche de Luna Llena.

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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 23/07/2011 14:59
The Count To Shavuot

                               The Counts Beginning

    Modern Yisrael, outside of the land, has no crop to harvest. Therefore, Yisrael cannot reap from a crop they do not possess.   However, instructions from Scripture does serve to establish the commanded count to Shavuot, (Pentecost) which is called the Feast of Weeks.

   “And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto Yahuweh.” (Lev. 23:15-16).

    ‘The morrow after the Sabbath’ or the day of the Wave Sheaf Offering can only be the second day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread or the sixteenth day of the first month. “Seven Sabbaths shall be complete:” (Vs. 15).   A Scriptural number is not complete until the end of the specified numbering is attained, but at that point it is complete.  For example: When one counts seven Sabbaths of years the result is 49 years complete.  The next year will be the 50th year, a separate count added to the first count.  The same is true of the commanded count to Shavuot.  It is seven Sabbaths complete, and a number after the seven is in addition to the seven, in this case, plus 50 days.

    Let us note an important fact here. It is not a day count of 49 days plus one day! Rather, it is a count of weeks (Heb. Shabuwa) , which are seven sevens. Furthermore, it is called a ‘week’ count because it parallels the creation week, so that The Scriptural nomenclature is a seven ‘shabuwa’ (weeks) count of the Sabbaths that occur after the 16th day of the first month, plus 50 days.

                    What are we counting here?

    The seven Sabbath count spans from the third Sabbath (22nd day) of the first month through the first Sabbath (8th day) of the third month.  Add New Moon days and the day following the seventh Sabbath and the total is expanded several days exceeding the commanded "seven Sabbaths complete:"

    The command in the Torah is : “...after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days;...” (Lev. 23:16). The word 'number' (S. 5608) is translated from the Hebrew word 'caphar', meaning to tally, enumerate, count or recount. There is no need to recount or count again to the third Sabbath of the first month, for that count was complete at the seventh Sabbath, but the recount is to number again fifty days (Heb. yowm, day or days) .  The Hebrew word 'yowmam', means 'daily' and does not apply in this case.

    There are two parts to the count.   The first part is the seven sevens count.  That part is seven weeks (Heb. Shabuwa) each made up of six work/commerce days plus a Sabbath in each week, but it does not include New Moon days.   In a successive day count, if the New Moon days and 30th days are included, the count would be beyond the Sabbath count.  A successive day count would have to include the New Moons that occur within the seven sevens count and would therefore be inaccurate.

    That false method of counting to Shavuot applies even to the false crescent new Moons.  A successive day count simply does not fulfill the requirement for a seven weeks count.  A count of seven weeks sums up to 49 days, but it is the day after the seven Sabbaths that the fifty day count begins. The seven week count is followed by another complete successive day count of fifty days.

    Now, for the second part of the command: “Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto Yahuweh”  (Lev. 23:16).  Here is where the successive day count is applied. It is after the seven Sabbaths. The numbering is an explicit count of seven Sabbaths plus fifty days starting on the 9th day of the third month, which is the day after the seventh Sabbath.

    Fifty days after the seventh Sabbath places Shavuot with the beginning of summer harvest at another Sabbath on the 29th day of the fourth month.  It is the Feast of First Fruits of the summer harvest when the wheat that was planted the previous winter is harvested.

                             More Evidence

    Shortly after Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread at Jerusalem, the Master Teacher of Righteousness rested at a well in Samaria and made this statement to His disciples:  “Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest?  Behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.” (Jn. 4:35).  His visit to Samaria and His statement were made near the end of the first month when He said the harvest was yet four months away, placing the harvest in the 5th month, which is the harvest season in the summer.

    The count to Shavuot starts at the barley harvest of Abib grain and ends with the mid year harvest of rye, oats and early wheat at the beginning of summer. The feast is celebrated using the early wheat harvest: “And thou shalt observe the Feast of Weeks, of the first fruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year’s end.” (Ex. 34:22). The ‘year’s end’ is not the solar year’s end; it is the agricultural year’s end, and the pilgrimage feasts when bread made from the wheat harvests are baked into leavened loafs for the feasts.

    The summer harvest of produce from the land is not only for food to be stored away but, it also for honoring Yahuweh with the firstfruits.  “Honour Yahuweh with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.” (Prov. 3:9-10).  Furthermore, it is not only the grains, but other produce as well: “And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of Yahuweh” (Neh. 10:35).

    Barley harvest begins in the spring, but wheat and oats are not available until mid May and later, while grapes and fruit trees follow in mid-summer and after.  None of the tree fruits are available in the spring before the summer solstice, which does not occur until after the seven Sabbath count, usually on June 21st.

    New wine is the sweet wine that is made from grapes of the current summer crop, and defined as being made of the fermented juice of any of various kinds of grapes  So, it is an issue of common knowledge; it is wine that is available only from the fresh grape crop that is produced in the summer season.

    The apostle Peter alluded to the summer crop at Shavuot when he responded to the local attendees who had charged the foreign guests with public drunkenness. “Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.” (Acts 2:13).  Peter addressed the mockers: “For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.” (Acts 2:15).  The vineyard harvest begins six or seven weeks after the seven Sabbath count, so new wine would not be available at the end of the seven week count, but it was obviously available at the time of Pentecost.

                    The Count Conclusion

    The Set Apart Feast of Firstfruits is celebrated every year around the world, but at the wrong time.  It is lost because it is not celebrated according to the Creator's timetable.  For thousands of years, calendars have come and gone leaving a path of confusion.  Consequently, the true calendar that reveals the forecast for mankind has been lost from view.  You can overcome the confusion by being faithful to the evidence given in Scripture, neither adding to it nor subtracting from it.



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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 24/07/2011 18:27
The Phoenix Capsule symbolic of the Stargate. Stairway to Zion.
The Five-Pointed Star on Chilean Flag - Icon of Sirius. Red, Blue
and White - Colors of Sirius Star System. Stairway to Sirius.

This ascension was ritualized in the symbolic rescue of the 33 miners at the San Jose gold and copper mine near the city of Copiapo, Chile. The miners were stuck in a mine shaft shelter at 2,300ft, about 5 kilometres from the mine entrance.. It took 33 days for the drill to complete the rescue shaft. The rescue shaft had a diameter of 66 centimeters, which is 33 times two. They were rescued on October 13th, 2010. 1013. Ergo 23 and 33. The first note the miners sent up to show they were still alive was "Estamos bien en el refugio los 33" (all 33 of us are in the shelter), which was 33 characters in length. The director Rodrigo Ortuzar plans to script a film around the tale of desperate descent and rebirth, aptly titled "The 33" and it is slated to have a runtime time of one hour and 33 minutes. There are 33 days between 9/11 (September 9th) to 13/10 (October 13th ). The capsule used in the rescued was called "The Phoenix." The Phoenix capsule was measured at 13 feet long, and 26 (2 x 13) inches wide. The first miner that was rescued at the time of 11:11 PM and his last name was Silver. There is a big black healing stone near to the mine, said to have fallen from space several hundred years ago. The Incas were the custodians of this rock and they formulated a secret society called the Lords of the Black Stone. Which reminds me of the Black Rock in LOST that eventually formulating part of the Jack's odyssey to ascension. Incidentally, the Knights Templars was one of the groups that helped to free Chile from Spain and Britain; and the date of October 13 is quite symbolic to the Templars, since it was on that date in 1307 that the members of the Order was arrested and tortured by King Philip IV of France, leading ultimately to total disbandment by the Papacy in 1312. The red cross and symbolism of the Templars represents Sirius and the Bloodline of the Holy Grail. The miners were rescued after 69 days. 69 is 23 x 3. 69 is a Rapture (Ascension) Code, since it is believed that God's clock will switch from 69 to 70 - marking the beginning of the 70th week of the prophet Daniel or Tribulation. October 13th, represents 227 days following another Rapture. And on February 27th, (2/27) of 2010, a major earthquake of magnitude 8.8 hit Chile. The quake occurred exactly 33 weeks before the mine collapse. The Babylonian Empire and the Tower of Babel was established on the 33rd Degree Parallel. According to the Bible, Jesus died and ascended to Heaven when he was 33 years old. Solomon's Temple (Temple of the Sun) designed by Hiram Abiff, the Freemason, lasted for 33 years. This brings us back to the Stairways to Heaven, Stairways to Sirius, Stairways to Zion. The Star of David, since the Jesus is the Stairway or Stargate and the number of the Star of David is 33.  Because of Jesus' ascension at 33, the Master Number was attributed to the Master Initiate in Freemason, signifying the achievement of the highest spiritual consciousness. The DNA and Ascension themes is further seen when you consider that there was 33 miners in the mine for 69 days, six is representative of Earth joining with Heaven, represented by nine similiar to mythologies like that of Gaia/Uranus and Nuit/Geb. This entrains with the work of Mayan expert Dr. Carl Johan Calleman,  who believes that we are leaving the sixth night to enter the seventh day of the Galactic Underworld:

"As the thirteenth energy, or seventh day, of the Galactic Underworld starts on November 3, 2010 we may say that the particular Yin/Yang-polarity that this has been projecting onto the Earth is locked into position and will not be replaced by any further night in this Underworld."

Calleman believes that we are on course towards complete ascension of the cosmic pyramid at  the ninth wave or level, which resonates with my theory.

So, let's take it back where I started. According to Madame Blavatsky, the founder of the Theosophical Society, 33 and its extension 333 represents the resurrection and ascension from death like the Phoenix. In a handmade drawing of King Solomon's signet ring to show the deep meaning of 3, 33, and 333 a crude illustration of the Star of David is revealed.  The drawing signifies the escape of the death/reincarnation cycle or the Sirius-Sol convergence through ascension. The birth, death and reincarnated cycle of the Garden of Eden; of Isis, Osiris and Horus; and of Jesus. 333 is half of 666. As I have said before, 333 in Jewish Gematria is KUNDALINI and MASONIC LADER. Blavatsky's drawing appeared in her book "Isis Unveiled," and we have already mentioned that Isis represents Sirius.

"Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." - John 3:3.

In our present state of amnesia, we subscribe fervently to the teachings and philosophies that emanate from religious strongholds, not understanding that we are witnessing the masking by the Luciferian Priest Class of Magicians of the devolutionary history of this world, the DNA hybridization and the posthumanism evolution towards the ascension of the "Serpent Gods." Perhaps the following symbolic video of the interstellar explosion of Sirius, the death and rebirth of the Phoenix and the red Aeon of Horus from Kanye West will open your eyes to the deception perpetuated in the illusionary matrix construct.

 "It’s the story of a Phoenix fallen to Earth, and I make her my girlfriend, and people discriminate against her and eventually she has to burn herself alive and go back to her world... I’ve been feeling the idea of the Phoenix. It’s been in my heart for a while. It’s maybe parallel to my career." - Kanye West.
Teniendo en cuenta que el terremoto chileno fue un 27/2 o 2/27 en forma americana, vemos un fuerte nexo con el numero PI ya que 22/7 es una buena aproximacion de 3.14. Desde el terremoto chileno hasta el 13 de octubre tenemos:
febrero=2 dias
Sumando todos estos dias tenemos 229 dias. Excluidos los extremos volvemos con el numero 227 que es la misma cantidad de dias que tenemos desde el 1 de enero hasta el 15 de agosto. Otro dato muy curioso es que desde el 27 de febrero hasta el 24 de junio (solsticio de verano en el hemisferio norte) hay 118 dias que es el mismo numero de dias desde el primero de Nissan (primer mes hebreo) hasta el 29 del cuarto mes, VERDADERO PENTECOSTES. Otro detalle numerologico es que EL RESCATE CHILENO FUE EN LA SEMANA 33 DESDE EL TERREMOTO CHILENO. ESE MISMO NUMERO OBVIAMENTE TAMBIEN ESTA INTERRELACIONADO CON EL 15 DE AGOSTO O FECHA DE LA ASUNCION DE LA VIRGEN.

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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 09/08/2011 16:14
Lo increible es que el 24 de Junio (solsticio de verano en el hemisferio norte) es el 176 dia (RELACION CON EL SALMO 119 DE 176 versiculos) en un año bisiesto. LA FIESTA DE ISTAR ERA EN EL SOLSTICIO DE VERANO.

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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 09/08/2011 19:27
También conocido como Solsticio de verano, Litha, Alban Hefin, Bendición de Sol, Reuniendo Día, Feill-Sheathain, Pentecostés, el Día de San Juan
Litha es celebrado generalmente en el 21 de junio, pero varía algo del 20 al 23, dependiente sobre la rotación de la Tierra alrededor del sol. Según el viejo calendario de folklore, el Verano empieza en Beltane (el primer de mayo) y se extiende hasta Lughnassadh (agosto 1st), con el Solsticio de verano a medio camino entre el dos, marcando PLENO VERANO.
La humanidad ha estado celebrando Litha y el triunfo de luz desde antiguos tiempos. En la Rueda del Año Litha, directamente enfrente de Yule (Navidad), el día más corto del año común, frío y oscuro de invierno cuando los días comienzan a alargar y las miradas de la humanidad nostálgicamente hacen alegorías al calor, la luz del sol y cosas en pleno crecimiento. Es el día más largo del año, a partir de ahora los días serán más largos que las noches y la luz reina sobre las tinieblas. La tierra está inundada de fertilidad.

Aunque Litha y la Yule sean “las vacaciones” o Sabbats Menores en el antiguo lenguaje, son celebrados con más fiestas y alegría que cualquier otro día en la rueda, menos Samhain (mi favorito personal). Los rituales gozosos de Litha celebran la Tierra verde en el verano pleno, la abundancia, la fecundidad, y toda la riqueza de la Naturaleza en plena flor y crecimiento. Es un tiempo de poderosa magia, se saltaba sobre hogueras para estimular la fertilidad, la purificación, la salud y el amor. Una vez más el fuego representa al sol, festejado en este tiempo de las más largas horas de luz diurna.
En los antiguos ritos Litha se celebraba guirnaldas o coronas de flores, y por supuesto, su sombrero siempre se incluyó flores amarillas de S. John Worth.
El Sabbat Litha es un tiempo de celebrar tanto trabajo como el ocio, es un tiempo para niños juegos infantiles. Es un tiempo de celebrar la conclusión del año naciente y el principio del año que saliente, es la preparación para la celebración de la cosecha por recoger. El pleno verano es un tiempo de absorber rayos del caliente Sol y es otra celebración de fecundidad, no sólo para nosotros los humanos, pero también para las cosechas y animales. La Comunidad Pagana Wicca considera a la Diosa Madre en estado de embarazo después del apareo en Beltane - honor es dado a Ella por llevar en su vientre la semilla fecundada del Dios Padre y darnos la ilusión de lo grande que es el ciclo de la vida en ese constante circulo del Nacer y renacer. El Dios Padre es celebrado como el Sol estando en su pico en el cielo, celebrando su paternidad venidera - honor también es dado a Él. Es la época en la que el Dios reina en la naturaleza, mientras su calor se hace sentir para ayudar a la Madre a florecer. Las flores y los frutos colman de energía la naturaleza, que se prepara para la cosecha. Marca la llegada del verano con toda la fuerza del Dios, es un momento de alegría. Los espíritus de la naturaleza están muy activos por el cambio de estación. Las hadas abundan en este momento y es de costumbre dejar ofrendas - como alimento o hierbas - para ellos.
Aunque Litha pueda parecer al principio una fiesta observada con energía masculina, es día también dedicado a la Diosa. Es un momento adecuado para retomar los proyectos que se han dejado pendientes.
Propósitos de los rituales de Litha:
Re dedicación al Señor y la Señora, Empezado de la cosecha, Honorando al Dios Sol y a la Diosa embarazada
Coronación del Dios Sol.

Los Instrumentos, Símbolos y Decoraciones
El Sol, el roble, el abedul y ramas de abeto, flores de sol, los lirios, rojo/maíz/flor amarilla o dora, amuletos, las conchas marinas, frutas y flores de verano, guirnaldas de puerta de pluma o flores, rueda del sol, el fuego, los círculos de piedra, esferas de sol, espadas, hojas, plumas de pájaro, Witches Ladder.
Azul, verde, oro, amarillo y rojo.
Fogatas, Procesiones, Vigilia, cantar,
La Madre Tierra, Naturaleza, Venus, Afrodita, Yemaya, Astarte, Freya, Hathor,
Ishtar, todas las Diosas del amor, la pasión, la belleza y el Mar, y Embarazada,
las Diosas lujuriosas, Madre Verde; Diosa de las Estrellas, Diosa de los Pozos de Agua.
El Sol/Cielo del padre, Rey de Roble, Arthur, Dios en el poder y la fuerza máxima.
Seres animales/míticos
Petirrojo (robin), los caballos, el ganado, los sátiros, las hadas, Pájaro de fuego, fenix , el dragón, thunderbirds
Piedras preciosas
El lapislázuli, el diamante, el ojo de tigre, todas las piedras preciosas verdes, especialmente esmeralda y el jade
El anís, ”mugwort”, la camomila, la rosa, flores de roble, el lirio, la lavanda,
el hinojo, muérdago, el cáñamo, el tomillo, la verbena (verbena), el helecho, el ajenjo, el pino, el brezo, la milenrama, el roble y acebos
El heliotropo, el azafrán, la naranja, el incienso & mirra, la glicina, la canela, la menta, la rosa, el limón, la lavanda, el sándalo, el pino.
La naturaleza la comunión espíritu/fantasioso, curación de planeta, la adivinación, amor y magia de protección.
La batalla entre Rey Roble, Dios del año que cierra y el divino Rey (puede ser un juego ritual), o el acto fuera escenas “Bards” (una encarnación de Merlín)
" El Sueño de una Noche de pleno verano", re dedicación de fe, los ritos de inspiración.
La miel, verduras frescas, los limones, las naranjas, frutas de verano, calabaza de verano,
El pan de centeno, la cerveza, bebidas de zanahoria.

Be Blessed!!!
Chloe Amaranth
Maria Adelaida Rodrigo

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