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MATEMATICAS: ¿EL VERDADERO VALOR DE PI ESTA 100% CONECTADO CON PHI?
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From: BARILOCHENSE6999  (Original message) Sent: 19/02/2016 02:38
 
Preparémonos para otra "disonancia cognitiva" más:

Pi = 3.144605511029693144………



Donde la letra griega es "fi", representando al famoso "número áureo":

Click para ampliar


¿Alguien se puso a medir alguna vez en "la realidad" (no con "cálculos mentales" que luego digamos que "se ajustarían", para que pi sea "el usual") la longitud de una circunferencia?

Parece que sí lo han medido.

Como nos explican en este hilo (donde "vlahstar" responde citando la explicación de fr0sty), y traduciendo más o menos…:

«un científico actual nos diría que ya Arquímedes dio el margen que incluía a pi, entre 3.1408 (223/71) y 3.1428 (22/7), así que como nuestro resultado no está en ese intervalo, es falso.»

Pero nos siguen diciendo que si se mide da 3,1446(...)

Creo que lo vamos a flipar con la simplicidad y la profundidad en las matemáticas "del futuro" cuando quitemos toda la paja en las actuales y sorprendentemente no haya muchas diferencias entre física, matemáticas y nuestro "espíritu".

Enlaces: 
Serban Mircea Mugurel: pi, phi, quadrature, quadratura, the golden number, numarul de aur, porportia divina, pi by phi, the Divine proportion
Holistic View


salud
 
 

Última edición por ivian; 27-feb-2011 a las 17:25


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Reply  Message 2 of 89 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 19/02/2016 03:25
Mane, I think he means the what I showed below. I don't know if this is accurate for PI, but it sure sounds compelling thus far. And I'm sure there are guys who can back up the info he's presenting. I think RADICAL is another name for SQUARE ROOT.

PHI = ((square root 5) + 1) / 2 = 1.618.....
square root PHI = 1.272...
PI = 4 / (square root PHI) = 3.1446055110296931442782343433718

Last edited by riseball; 09-10-2009 at 02:53 AM.

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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 20/02/2016 01:05
 
 
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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 19/02/2016 21:57
Maximumgravity1, I don't know of any vortex modeling aps as it can be quite complex math, they use the latest super computers to calculate fluid dynamics and even then its not completely accurate modeling.

There are some very simple examples you can play with here if you download the player .http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/se...x=0&submit.y=0

It probably better to just read about how they work, id recommend 
http://www.sciencetoymaker.org/vortex/explore.htm ( this has your bottle example)

and the work of Viktor Schauberger since he did a lot of water related stuff, 
http://evgars.com/shauberg1.htm




Back to the torus's I was always wondering what the mathematical equivalents to the size of the torus was in relation to its ring, aka how big the doughnut hole is and how did the size effect the torus properties.

I didn't realize it but there are several differently names torus's depending on this. Most of the "Marko" coils I've seen are actually called "ring torus's" and I think that's mainly due to the fact that the windings need some space to be wrapped, especially if you have fat fingers 

But check this out, 




Now if you take the horn torus you find the golden triangle 


That image is from a Dr. Shikhirin paper http://www.elastoneering.com/


ps. The plural of torus is actually tori and not torus's but it sounds weird.
 

Last edited by theflow; 06-01-2010 at 02:51 AM.
 

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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 20/02/2016 01:23
The pictures I recreated myself after watching the below mentioned video. I know Nassim refers to the spirals as phi spirals but I believe they are fibonacci spirals. He even explains how he makes it in the first video with Marko at the conference. A phi spiral would be a perfect spiral, a fibonacci spiral acts more like a wave which acts around the phi ratio. The best way I can think to explain this for those who don't understand what I'm trying to say is with the numbers.

phi = 1.618... = (1+sqrt 5)/2
fibonacci #'s 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,etc.
if you divide any two consecutive numbers it forms a wave around phi.

eg. 
1/1 = 1
2/1 = 2
3/2 = 1.5
5/3 = 1.666...
8/5 = 1.6
13/8 = 1.625

The numbers are either above or below phi, to me this is where the boundary condition that Nassim explains is created by, because the circles are not completely equidistant, they wave closer and further appart between the spirals that were arrayed. 

I'm sure for some of you guys this is childsplay, I am posting this for those of us that it may not be as obvious. 

Reply  Message 6 of 89 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 20/02/2016 01:26
 
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Originally Posted by riseball View Post
The pictures I recreated myself after watching the below mentioned video. I know Nassim refers to the spirals as phi spirals but I believe they are fibonacci spirals.
Same thing essentially.
I feel you are a bit confused about how the Fibonacci and phi are related however...some bullshit and some bullSeyeS. 
They are essentially the same thing. 
phi = Fibonacci...
phi is a RATIO, and an irrational number.
pi is also irrational...
I shall serve pi with a little 'T' later.

Quote:
As Mario Livio explains, they all share a connection to phi, “the most irrational of all irrational numbers.”
Fibonacci are a subset of the Lucas numbers, AND that is important to realize too.
Because the Lucas numbers start with 2, 1, NOT 1, 1,
Understand?
Easy enough to go to the next level also just by asking you to finish both of those series, and then taking the ratios of the numbers in the series.

You do the Lucas numbers.
What did you get?...do the first 10 terms.
The first TEN terms with the Fibonacci series can be either 34 or 55, it ALL depends if you start the series with 0 or 1. 

i.e. 
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89 etc...
NOW take RATIOS starting with 
1:1 = 1
2:1 = 2
3:2 = 1.5
5:3 = 1.666
8:5 = 1.6 this was/is an early reference to the phi ratio a.k.a. GOLDEN RECTANGLE
13:8 = 1.625


...>>> cut to the chase...

144/89 = 1.67977528 ... to infinity and beyond 
...first nine digits are part of the TOY STORY 

Note: 144/89 is starting to approach the GOLDEN MEAN, the GOLDEN phi RATIO determined to be...1.61803398...to infinity and beyond....again 
So note as the RATIOs involve bigger and bigger numbers the FLUCTUATIONS become less and less 'severe'...and that I believe is GOOD news. 
I used positive=RED and negative=BLUE to represent the two 'polarities', an archetype we cannot ignore in the electro-magnetic field of pairs and opposites.

phi = 

phi =1:1 2:1 3:2 5:3 8:5 13:8...144:89

Best way to learn REAL fast is by using correspondences, the art of analogy. Heaven above = Heaven below ARKetypal sleuthing.
Easy enough to learn the meaning of the caduceus relative to quantum physics, marko rodin, nassim haramein, and a host of other irrational folks throughout history who have battled with these eternal irrational concepts, trying to box them in primarily using rational logical LEFT Brain hemisphere thinking and tinkering, causing all kinds of chaos as a result...

 truth is truth is truth is truth

Time to introduce RIGHT BRAIN solutions for LEFT BRAIN tinkering gone wrong.
Marko, NaSSim, and mi are on the same wavelength.
Just different languages, all offering VALUABLE bits and pieces.
But I do know of at least three or four (at least) other fellas (gals) that SHOULD be introduced to Marko and NaSSim.
Other OBVIOUS and most auspicious 21st century *Gospel* writers who bring pieces to the Emerald Table for inspection.
Harbingers of a new age...
Marko and NaSSim are miSSing ONE valuable piece.
I know the he/she to help with this.

i.e. 
The archetypal creation filled with ARKS to float on, or smaller sacred treasure chests that are filled with hope can best be interpreted through the living heARTS, with science and religion playing vital roles... 

Simply by realizing, acknowledging that symbols can be approached from more than ONE direction  opens many doors, and do not forget to bring along a MIRROR or a mask.
I have come to the conclusion that the creation is not unlike a huge Disneyland filled with archetypal puzzles, games, tricks, mirrors, and even rides that eventually come to a stop.
This place does exist.
It is quite fulfilling and far more challenging to play along than just reBLEATing a script (handed down), that tells me how I must play the game or else...

Rotated 90 degrees ANTI- or COUNTER-clockwise orthogonally ....the Caduceus is thus easier understood.
Once rotated now just imagine what you have before you is an X and Y axis.
And what we have are two sine waves that are in fact representing the TWO phi spirals....ONE spiral is moving from LEFT to RIGHT...toward the TWO HANDs and the other spiral could be considered to be moving from RIGHT to LEFT away from the hands.
This is very similar to DNA structure, in that DNA has two ribbons instead of serpents....and the wand of DNA would be the rungs comprised of ACGT that exist between the two ribbons/serpents.

Thus you have one spiral moving inward and the other spiral is moving outward.
Here you have in all its simplicity an action FOUND on all levels.

Please note the Caduceus:
In the beginning the wave fluctuations beginning on the LEFT are based on ratios involving smaller numbers, giving bigger fluctuations between successive ratios, i.e. the rise of the AMPLITUDE is high up the 'y' axis.

Starting where the BIRD is on the LEFT...moving toward the TWO hands on the right is exactly the progression we see above in regards to the RATIOS of TWO numbers ... as we move along the x-axis to the right >>> the TWO spirals/sine waves fluctuate 

leSS and leSS and leSS and leSS and leSS and less and less and for what might seem like an eternity...however NEVER touching down on that LINE....getting closer and closer to 'god' and becoming 'one' with the phi line?
Know what I MEAN in a golden way?
Ah such frustration...I am so close to the line I can feel it, I can feel the pulse, the heARTbeat of something quite divine... 

And it would appear that IF you do indeed become a part of the phi ratio and join the GOLDEN MEAN LINE, you will now join in with those TWO HANDs and have some control over the magic WAND?

Thus it becomes quite clear that the magic WAND = phi ratio 1.61803398 

**Trust me too when I suggest you must familiarize yourself with the Lucas numbers to play along... 

All you NEED to realize about these concepts is we are establishing RATIOs.
Both the Lucas and Fibonacci numbers are all about establishing the RATIO.
Do you know what I MEAN by suggesting we start out with a GOLDEN MEAN progressing to the GOLDEN RATIO, which builds GOLDEN TRIANGLES, GOLDEN RECTANGLES and GOLDEN SPIRALS....and of course the spiral becomes a GOLDEN HELIX in 3Dimensions.
And of course the GOLDEN HELIX or the HOLY Grail is your DNA. 
HOLY GRAIL found in ARECIBO Message
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...ecibo-message/

Quote:
Originally Posted by riseball View Post
He even explains how he makes it in the first video with Marko at the conference. A phi spiral would be a perfect spiral, a fibonacci spiral acts more like a wave which acts around the phi ratio. The best way I can think to explain this for those who don't understand what I'm trying to say is with the numbers.

phi = 1.618... = (1+sqrt 5)/2
fibonacci #'s 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,etc.
if you divide any two consecutive numbers it forms a wave around phi.

eg. 
1/1 = 1
2/1 = 2
3/2 = 1.5
5/3 = 1.666...
8/5 = 1.6
13/8 = 1.625

The numbers are either above or below phi, to me this is where the boundary condition that Nassim explains is created by, because the circles are not completely equidistant, they wave closer and further appart between the spirals that were arrayed. 

I'm sure for some of you guys this is childsplay, I am posting this for those of us that it may not be as obvious.
So yes we are closing in on the language.
hiSS?

Bottom LINE...the one I have found...is that YES, the creation was designed to be interpreted as child's play, and it is really IS best interpreted that way....the creation can be understood by children IF we as ELDER's know how to awaken the spirits within them, and not kill them with dogma and lies still being handed down...
They arrive with a blueprint. 
As elders we assist them in building their OWN temples, that fit nicely into all the others...

3x3 Lo Shu magic square OR tic tac toe?
5x5 Knight's Templar Magic Square is a solution for RIGHT brain hemisphere quantum 'WAVE' or serpentine theory 'SSS' = thrice GREATest = xyz axis, a theory that the NEO-lithic spiral cultures were immersed in IS what we can expect in the VERY VERY near future...
I am currently working on breaking the Knights Templar code found in Pompeii, in a culture that predates the Knights by 1000 years... 
7x7 is a CHINESE solution for the Pythagorean theorem, that appears to be from the same 'era'.

marko rodin and the enneagram = scottish freemasonry?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...6&postcount=58
marko rodin, fractals, the mandelbrot set and swastikas?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=67
cymatics and SOUND and xyz?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=82
how the SS = Holy Spirit = marko rodin and 25 or 52 with rotations and reflections?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...3&postcount=90

8x8 is the solution for pi, it is the game of cheSS, and it is also the 8x8 Magic Square of Mercury,and we find the 64 hexagrams of the I-Ching and the 64 Codons that comprise all DNA codes?
All of the above is played on a CHESS board.
And cheSS is a game you can play equally well with only one eye.
Would the Eye of Horus, the Wedjet, and the ratio 63/64 be connected in some way to these archetypal time-leSS clues?
Is that little lowly 1/64th square of the chess board that the 'BUILDER's LEFT OUT'? 

The Garden of Eden IS quite the playground of the mind...
enjoy those thinks...

namaste

Last edited by raphael; 05-02-2010 at 03:34 PM.

Reply  Message 7 of 89 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 20/02/2016 01:47
Phi(√1.25+0.5)²

2.6180339887498948482045868343656 +
0.3819660112501051517954131656343 =
2.9999999999999999999999999999999

If you take phi to the power of 2 and sum its reciprocal together, you get interesting mirroring effect of 9. You can get the same effect doing this with any result from the chart in my previous post. Phi is of course still interesting in the way that its "tail" will still remain unchanged after the first time of multiplication by itself.

Also worth to note is that Phi(√1.25+0.5)³ will result with √5+2 (3 steps in the chart) , while (√2+1)³ will result with √50+7 (12 steps in the chart) etc..

Last edited by jtstatic; 07-02-2010 at 10:20 PM. Reason: some minor addition

Reply  Message 8 of 89 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 24/02/2016 17:41
 
EL SENO DE:
 
SENO (90-36=54)=PHI/2
SENO (90+36=126)=PHI/2
SENO (270-36=234)=PHI/2
SENO (270+36=306)=PHI/2
 
LAS MATEMATICAS SON EXACTAS
 
SI LO CONSIDERAMOS EN RADIANES:
 
90=PI/2
270=PI+PI/2
NOTEN QUE TENEMOS 4 VECES EL NUMERO PHI EN UNA FUNCION SENOIDAL COMPLETA .
 
¿CASUALIDAD O CAUSALIDAD?
INCLUSO SI CONSIDERAMOS EL NUMERO 666 TAMBIEN TIENE RELACION CON PHI.
 
SENO (666)=PHI/2
 
TODO ESTA CODIFICADO

Reply  Message 9 of 89 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 25/02/2016 16:27
Here it is found using Circles in 'Octaves'



source: goldennumber.net

Reply  Message 10 of 89 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 29/02/2016 02:08
 
 
hmmm, that might be a stretch depending who you are talking to...

I rather think of a 2-sided solid as like a 3d VESICA PISCES from 2 intersecting SPHERES. As for 3-sided solid...

 
Something like this in 3d. Interesting the square root of 2, 3, and 5 such that jtstatic uses in his PI formula... 



Or as in cell division...


Cheers!

Riseball
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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 05/03/2016 16:35
 
The Holy Grail



Reflection of the Architect's Mind


http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/...GAUDIcernH.jpg

GAUDI'S SACRED MONSTER
http://www.architectural-review.com/...633438.article


CERN ATLAS (experiment)
http://www.atlas.ch/photos/magnets-barrel.html

The 8 torodial magnets can be seen on the huge ATLAS detector with the calorimeter before it is moved into the middle of the detector. 
This calorimeter will measure the energies of particles produced when protons collide in the centre of the detector. 
ATLAS will work along side the CMS experiment to search for new physics at the 14 TeV level.




QUANTUM ART AND POETRY
http://quantumartandpoetry.blogspot....rticle-of.html




number 8 the HYPERcube








Kubrick // One-Point Perspective
https://vimeo.com/48425421#


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19584301
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/s...tos/photos.htm

Quote:
“If a shadow is a 2Dprojection of the 3Dworld, 
then the 3Dworld as we know it is the projection of the 4D Universe"
 ~M. Duchamp


http://divinecosmos.com/resources/divinecosmos/4.html

Scientists to unveil milestone in Higgs boson hunt
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86008K20120703

Quote:
Truly. As Marcel Duchamp once noted the only ism that actually mattered was eroticism
... men and women were machines that ran on passion as fuel.
Quote:
MORPHEUS: Do you want to know.... what it is....? The Matrix is everywhere. 
It's all around us, even in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. 
You can feel it when you go to work, when you pay your taxes. 
The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth.

Das I-Ging der Chemie
http://www.nexworld.tv/talk-shows/ge...ng-der-chemie/

I GING 81
Die Systematik der Elemente
http://www.iging81.de/book/

COPY:
https://vimeo.com/50976276

the EARTH is PREGNANT...?


GAIA 
Science has not yet formulated a full definition of life



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(mythology)

All lifeforms are part of ONE single living planetary being called GAIA
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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 06/03/2016 13:47
 
Default Love 2 the 9s

Love 2 the 9s



Quote:
God said to Haggai (2:18, 2the9)

“From this day on – from this twenty fourth day of the ninth month, give careful thought: 
Is there yet any seed left in the barn? Until this day the vine (bride of Christ) and 
the fig tree (Israel – bride of God) the pomgranate and the olive tree have not borne fruit. 
From this day on I will bless you.”
Quote:
In verse 12 God says to Israel:

“Return, faithless Israel, declares the Lord.
I will frown on you no longer, for I am merciful, declares the Lord. 
I will not be angry forever. 
Only acknowledge your guilt – you have rebelled against the Lord your God, 
you have scattered your favors to foreign gods under every spreading tree, 
and have not obeyed me.”
The Dawn of Earth's Great Millennium
Magnificent Evidences that the New Day is Dawning!

http://www.sonstoglory.com/millenniumgematria.htm


“Come, let us return to the Lord. He has injured us but he will bind up our wounds. 
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. 
Let us acknowledge the Lord; let us press on to acknowledge him. 
As surely as the sun rises, (the dawn of the Millennium) he will appear; 
he will come to us like the winter rains, like the spring rains that water the earth.”



“I was pushed back and about to fall, but the Lord helped me. 
The Lord is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.... 
The Lord has chastened me severely, but he has not given me over to death. 
Open for me the gates of righteousness; I will enter and give thanks to the Lord... 
I will give thanks for you answered me; you have become my salvation.... 
This is the day that the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it. 
O Lord, save us; 
O Lord grant us success. 
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.”


“The fruit of righteousness will be peace; 
the effect of righteousness will be quietness and confidence forever."




21 12 (20+1) 12
onOFFonOFF


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifix_(Michelangelo)



3.6.
9 
= 1 + 8

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Reply  Message 51 of 51 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 05/03/2016 20:34
 
Default Monad

24 permutations 



The Hieroglyphic Monad
http://www.scribd.com/doc/65244258/Deem-on-Ad










"he who causes to exist"

4 x 6 = 24 = 12 + 12

The term tetragrammaton (from Greek τετραγράμματον, meaning "4 letters")



external link:
MONAD
http://science2art.tumblr.com/post/37550538168/monad
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Reply  Message 13 of 89 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 06/03/2016 16:03
 
Default The Perfect Coil

The Perfect Coil (Mathematically and Geometrically)

Quote:
My discovery seems to explain the planetary system, ancient symbols, color theory, photon geometry, blood cell geometry, the Van Allen Radiation Belt, musical scales, black holes, stars, structure of atoms, most likely the periodic table, and other disciplines. I didn't discover the Torus, obviously, but I discovered the math and path of energy around it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmiBwrQUgoM
777 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=106


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio#Geometry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_triacontahedron


Time Temple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkifmWPmel8



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio#Pyramids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_coincidences

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler_...al_coincidence


Berkeley math institute celebrates 25 years
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...rs-3296769.php
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