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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 19/02/2016 00:15
 
Which TORUS modEL is best? 

 

 

Marko Rodin and the Cross of the Ilu? 
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1058611542 

 

BBL 

BiBLE = BaBeL = BaB-iLu = Gate of God = Cross of Ilu = 369 = 4 axis of symmetry 

namaste

_________________
KEY 528=Swastika=ancient Spherical Standing Wave Theory 
“A theory is more impressive the greater is the simplicity of its premise, the more different are the kinds of things it relates and the more extended its range of applicability…” 
-Albert Einstein
 

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 19/02/2016 00:37
 
It's the dynamics alone! Don't you see? What we call things are just movements, vibrations. But the vibration is omni-directional. We see something when it divides itself and creates a boundary.

It's like a pool full of water, in order to define "this" water from "that" water, because it's homogeneous, it has to "move through itself", and it does this in a vortex, to define what is being pulled inside the vortex and what isn't.

In this case we are talking about energy. Energy is homogeneous, as is "space". Space is full of energy and energy is full of space! In order for it to divide itself form itself is uses this dynamic that I am describing, to define a boundary. This is what vibrations are, they are not 2D jiggles up and down, they are the result of a vortex, toroidial pinch! These dynamics exsist at all scales like a fractal, it doesn't matter where you are it's all the centre, it's all "the same" and yet infinite.

Paradox is not "error" or "wrong" it is the way things really are outside of your subjective awaerness. If you can't accept paradox nothing will ever make sense......
 

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 19/02/2016 00:55
 

Did you know the great pyramid is perfect, but they say the top of the pyramid is not in the middle of the square base and has an error of a quarter of a inch lol . but that is because the modern scientists has calculate wrong the Pi number. 
Pi or π is a mathematical constant whose value is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean space; this is the same value as the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius. It is approximately equal to 3.14159 in the usual decimal notation (see the table for its representation in some other bases). π is one of the most important mathematical and physical constants: many formulae from mathematics, science, and engineering involve π.
 Circumference = π × diameter

 Area of the circle = π × area of the shaded square

Calculating Pi number 
π can be empirically estimated by drawing a large circle, then measuring its diameter and circumference and dividing the circumference by the diameter. Another geometry-based approach, due to Archimedes,[19] is to calculate the perimeter, Pn , of a regular polygon with n sides circumscribed around a circle with diameter d. Then 

That is, the more sides the polygon has, the closer the approximation approaches π. Archimedes determined the accuracy of this approach by comparing the perimeter of the circumscribed polygon with the perimeter of a regular polygon with the same number of sides inscribed inside the circle. Using a polygon with 96 sides, he computed the fractional range: 


I will say only that his ARCHIMEDES axiom (287-212 BC) resulting from the conclusion that seems logical in our OLD thinking and reference, namely that a circle can be compared and even overlapped with circumscribed polygon with infinite number of sides is not accurate! 


The modern scientist will say to you if you give them the TRUE PI NUMBER "Archimedes established margin that included PI: between 3.1408 (223/71) and 3.1428 (22 / 7), so the your result are not included in this interval, so that is false!"

For the moment all the guys out there uses PI=3.1415(....)
but the true Pi number is 3,1446(...) go and measure on terrain!!! practical !!! 

PI=4/radical(PHI, the golden ratio = 1.61803399(...)) = 3.14460550981492(...) !!! 
 The Golden Ratio!!! 

Facts:
According to the true pi number the diameter of the Large Hadron Collider is smaller with 8.13 meters!
According to the true pi number the GREAT PYRAMID IS P.E.R.F.E.C.T.!!!!!!!
According to the true pi number N.A.S.A. is using the true PI number. lol
According to the true pi number the humans will be able to build more perfect buildings (and durable ffs!!!)
ACCORDING TO THE TRUE PI NUMBER THE MARKO RODIN SINGLE TORUS COIL WILL BE UPGRADED AND MORE EFFICIENT!!! and a little bigger in diameter )

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 20/02/2016 00:14
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fr0sty View Post

Did you know the great pyramid is perfect, but they say the top of the pyramid is not in the middle of the square base and has an error of a quarter of a inch lol . but that is because the modern scientists has calculate wrong the Pi number. 
Pi or π is a mathematical constant whose value is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean space; this is the same value as the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius. It is approximately equal to 3.14159 in the usual decimal notation (see the table for its representation in some other bases). π is one of the most important mathematical and physical constants: many formulae from mathematics, science, and engineering involve π.
 Circumference = π × diameter

 Area of the circle = π × area of the shaded square

Calculating Pi number 
π can be empirically estimated by drawing a large circle, then measuring its diameter and circumference and dividing the circumference by the diameter. Another geometry-based approach, due to Archimedes,[19] is to calculate the perimeter, Pn , of a regular polygon with n sides circumscribed around a circle with diameter d. Then 

That is, the more sides the polygon has, the closer the approximation approaches π. Archimedes determined the accuracy of this approach by comparing the perimeter of the circumscribed polygon with the perimeter of a regular polygon with the same number of sides inscribed inside the circle. Using a polygon with 96 sides, he computed the fractional range: 


I will say only that his ARCHIMEDES axiom (287-212 BC) resulting from the conclusion that seems logical in our OLD thinking and reference, namely that a circle can be compared and even overlapped with circumscribed polygon with infinite number of sides is not accurate! 


The modern scientist will say to you if you give them the TRUE PI NUMBER "Archimedes established margin that included PI: between 3.1408 (223/71) and 3.1428 (22 / 7), so the your result are not included in this interval, so that is false!"

For the moment all the guys out there uses PI=3.1415(....)
but the true Pi number is 3,1446(...) go and measure on terrain!!! practical !!! 

PI=4/radical(PHI, the golden ratio = 1.61803399(...)) = 3.14460550981492(...) !!! 
 The Golden Ratio!!! 

Facts:
According to the true pi number the diameter of the Large Hadron Collider is smaller with 8.13 meters!
According to the true pi number the GREAT PYRAMID IS P.E.R.F.E.C.T.!!!!!!!
According to the true pi number N.A.S.A. is using the true PI number. lol
According to the true pi number the humans will be able to build more perfect buildings (and durable ffs!!!)
ACCORDING TO THE TRUE PI NUMBER THE MARKO RODIN SINGLE TORUS COIL WILL BE UPGRADED AND MORE EFFICIENT!!! and a little bigger in diameter )
Correction: PI=4/sqrt(PHI)=3.144605511029693144(...)...without doubt...MEASURED!...But, pay attention, please, about the"PARADOX OF THE SMALL ANGLES"up to sqrt[sqrt(89)]=3.071478656(...) sexag.deg. I'll explain you, later!
See you, please: http://quadrature.ro 

V L A H S T A R
Mircea-Mugurel Serban

Last edited by vlahstar; 18-06-2009 at 09:21 AM. Reason: Completion!
 

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 20/02/2016 00:51
 
Somebody earlier compared freemason’s compass/sqare symbol with rodin’s anagram? 
Why not taking this idea further with “unfinished pyramid shape”.
Maybe a new candidate for winding the rodin golden ratio coil?
When I was drawing it my body was shaking like crazy.
It was kind of like automatic writing.. When I was done I started to analyze it.

ps: what 33 degree masons know? 

 

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I would recommend winding it with the “Twistite”
triple wire, the one Jamie Buturff used for one of his newer coils. Or even better.. twisting the twistite wire even more to reach the “mobius coil” style wire:


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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 20/02/2016 01:00
 
 
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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 19/02/2016 21:57
Maximumgravity1, I don't know of any vortex modeling aps as it can be quite complex math, they use the latest super computers to calculate fluid dynamics and even then its not completely accurate modeling.

There are some very simple examples you can play with here if you download the player .http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/se...x=0&submit.y=0

It probably better to just read about how they work, id recommend 
http://www.sciencetoymaker.org/vortex/explore.htm ( this has your bottle example)

and the work of Viktor Schauberger since he did a lot of water related stuff, 
http://evgars.com/shauberg1.htm




Back to the torus's I was always wondering what the mathematical equivalents to the size of the torus was in relation to its ring, aka how big the doughnut hole is and how did the size effect the torus properties.

I didn't realize it but there are several differently names torus's depending on this. Most of the "Marko" coils I've seen are actually called "ring torus's" and I think that's mainly due to the fact that the windings need some space to be wrapped, especially if you have fat fingers 

But check this out, 




Now if you take the horn torus you find the golden triangle 


That image is from a Dr. Shikhirin paper http://www.elastoneering.com/


ps. The plural of torus is actually tori and not torus's but it sounds weird.
 

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 20/02/2016 01:31
 
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The pictures I recreated myself after watching the below mentioned video. I know Nassim refers to the spirals as phi spirals but I believe they are fibonacci spirals.
Same thing essentially.
I feel you are a bit confused about how the Fibonacci and phi are related however...some bullshit and some bullSeyeS. 
They are essentially the same thing. 
phi = Fibonacci...
phi is a RATIO, and an irrational number.
pi is also irrational...
I shall serve pi with a little 'T' later.

Quote:
As Mario Livio explains, they all share a connection to phi, “the most irrational of all irrational numbers.”
Fibonacci are a subset of the Lucas numbers, AND that is important to realize too.
Because the Lucas numbers start with 2, 1, NOT 1, 1,
Understand?
Easy enough to go to the next level also just by asking you to finish both of those series, and then taking the ratios of the numbers in the series.

You do the Lucas numbers.
What did you get?...do the first 10 terms.
The first TEN terms with the Fibonacci series can be either 34 or 55, it ALL depends if you start the series with 0 or 1. 

i.e. 
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89 etc...
NOW take RATIOS starting with 
1:1 = 1
2:1 = 2
3:2 = 1.5
5:3 = 1.666
8:5 = 1.6 this was/is an early reference to the phi ratio a.k.a. GOLDEN RECTANGLE
13:8 = 1.625


...>>> cut to the chase...

144/89 = 1.67977528 ... to infinity and beyond 
...first nine digits are part of the TOY STORY 

Note: 144/89 is starting to approach the GOLDEN MEAN, the GOLDEN phi RATIO determined to be...1.61803398...to infinity and beyond....again 
So note as the RATIOs involve bigger and bigger numbers the FLUCTUATIONS become less and less 'severe'...and that I believe is GOOD news. 
I used positive=RED and negative=BLUE to represent the two 'polarities', an archetype we cannot ignore in the electro-magnetic field of pairs and opposites.

phi = 

phi =1:1 2:1 3:2 5:3 8:5 13:8...144:89

Best way to learn REAL fast is by using correspondences, the art of analogy. Heaven above = Heaven below ARKetypal sleuthing.
Easy enough to learn the meaning of the caduceus relative to quantum physics, marko rodin, nassim haramein, and a host of other irrational folks throughout history who have battled with these eternal irrational concepts, trying to box them in primarily using rational logical LEFT Brain hemisphere thinking and tinkering, causing all kinds of chaos as a result...

 truth is truth is truth is truth

Time to introduce RIGHT BRAIN solutions for LEFT BRAIN tinkering gone wrong.
Marko, NaSSim, and mi are on the same wavelength.
Just different languages, all offering VALUABLE bits and pieces.
But I do know of at least three or four (at least) other fellas (gals) that SHOULD be introduced to Marko and NaSSim.
Other OBVIOUS and most auspicious 21st century *Gospel* writers who bring pieces to the Emerald Table for inspection.
Harbingers of a new age...
Marko and NaSSim are miSSing ONE valuable piece.
I know the he/she to help with this.

i.e. 
The archetypal creation filled with ARKS to float on, or smaller sacred treasure chests that are filled with hope can best be interpreted through the living heARTS, with science and religion playing vital roles... 

Simply by realizing, acknowledging that symbols can be approached from more than ONE direction  opens many doors, and do not forget to bring along a MIRROR or a mask.
I have come to the conclusion that the creation is not unlike a huge Disneyland filled with archetypal puzzles, games, tricks, mirrors, and even rides that eventually come to a stop.
This place does exist.
It is quite fulfilling and far more challenging to play along than just reBLEATing a script (handed down), that tells me how I must play the game or else...

Rotated 90 degrees ANTI- or COUNTER-clockwise orthogonally ....the Caduceus is thus easier understood.
Once rotated now just imagine what you have before you is an X and Y axis.
And what we have are two sine waves that are in fact representing the TWO phi spirals....ONE spiral is moving from LEFT to RIGHT...toward the TWO HANDs and the other spiral could be considered to be moving from RIGHT to LEFT away from the hands.
This is very similar to DNA structure, in that DNA has two ribbons instead of serpents....and the wand of DNA would be the rungs comprised of ACGT that exist between the two ribbons/serpents.

Thus you have one spiral moving inward and the other spiral is moving outward.
Here you have in all its simplicity an action FOUND on all levels.

Please note the Caduceus:
In the beginning the wave fluctuations beginning on the LEFT are based on ratios involving smaller numbers, giving bigger fluctuations between successive ratios, i.e. the rise of the AMPLITUDE is high up the 'y' axis.

Starting where the BIRD is on the LEFT...moving toward the TWO hands on the right is exactly the progression we see above in regards to the RATIOS of TWO numbers ... as we move along the x-axis to the right >>> the TWO spirals/sine waves fluctuate 

leSS and leSS and leSS and leSS and leSS and less and less and for what might seem like an eternity...however NEVER touching down on that LINE....getting closer and closer to 'god' and becoming 'one' with the phi line?
Know what I MEAN in a golden way?
Ah such frustration...I am so close to the line I can feel it, I can feel the pulse, the heARTbeat of something quite divine... 

And it would appear that IF you do indeed become a part of the phi ratio and join the GOLDEN MEAN LINE, you will now join in with those TWO HANDs and have some control over the magic WAND?

Thus it becomes quite clear that the magic WAND = phi ratio 1.61803398 

**Trust me too when I suggest you must familiarize yourself with the Lucas numbers to play along... 

All you NEED to realize about these concepts is we are establishing RATIOs.
Both the Lucas and Fibonacci numbers are all about establishing the RATIO.
Do you know what I MEAN by suggesting we start out with a GOLDEN MEAN progressing to the GOLDEN RATIO, which builds GOLDEN TRIANGLES, GOLDEN RECTANGLES and GOLDEN SPIRALS....and of course the spiral becomes a GOLDEN HELIX in 3Dimensions.
And of course the GOLDEN HELIX or the HOLY Grail is your DNA. 
HOLY GRAIL found in ARECIBO Message
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...ecibo-message/

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Originally Posted by riseball View Post
He even explains how he makes it in the first video with Marko at the conference. A phi spiral would be a perfect spiral, a fibonacci spiral acts more like a wave which acts around the phi ratio. The best way I can think to explain this for those who don't understand what I'm trying to say is with the numbers.

phi = 1.618... = (1+sqrt 5)/2
fibonacci #'s 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,etc.
if you divide any two consecutive numbers it forms a wave around phi.

eg. 
1/1 = 1
2/1 = 2
3/2 = 1.5
5/3 = 1.666...
8/5 = 1.6
13/8 = 1.625

The numbers are either above or below phi, to me this is where the boundary condition that Nassim explains is created by, because the circles are not completely equidistant, they wave closer and further appart between the spirals that were arrayed. 

I'm sure for some of you guys this is childsplay, I am posting this for those of us that it may not be as obvious.
So yes we are closing in on the language.
hiSS?

Bottom LINE...the one I have found...is that YES, the creation was designed to be interpreted as child's play, and it is really IS best interpreted that way....the creation can be understood by children IF we as ELDER's know how to awaken the spirits within them, and not kill them with dogma and lies still being handed down...
They arrive with a blueprint. 
As elders we assist them in building their OWN temples, that fit nicely into all the others...

3x3 Lo Shu magic square OR tic tac toe?
5x5 Knight's Templar Magic Square is a solution for RIGHT brain hemisphere quantum 'WAVE' or serpentine theory 'SSS' = thrice GREATest = xyz axis, a theory that the NEO-lithic spiral cultures were immersed in IS what we can expect in the VERY VERY near future...
I am currently working on breaking the Knights Templar code found in Pompeii, in a culture that predates the Knights by 1000 years... 
7x7 is a CHINESE solution for the Pythagorean theorem, that appears to be from the same 'era'.

marko rodin and the enneagram = scottish freemasonry?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...6&postcount=58
marko rodin, fractals, the mandelbrot set and swastikas?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=67
cymatics and SOUND and xyz?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=82
how the SS = Holy Spirit = marko rodin and 25 or 52 with rotations and reflections?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...3&postcount=90

8x8 is the solution for pi, it is the game of cheSS, and it is also the 8x8 Magic Square of Mercury,and we find the 64 hexagrams of the I-Ching and the 64 Codons that comprise all DNA codes?
All of the above is played on a CHESS board.
And cheSS is a game you can play equally well with only one eye.
Would the Eye of Horus, the Wedjet, and the ratio 63/64 be connected in some way to these archetypal time-leSS clues?
Is that little lowly 1/64th square of the chess board that the 'BUILDER's LEFT OUT'? 

The Garden of Eden IS quite the playground of the mind...
enjoy those thinks...

namaste

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 21/02/2016 01:17
 
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yes but did you watch the video by the guru Dr. Temple Grandin?
SHE FILLS ROOMS FOR GOOD REASON
think about that?

can you answer this question I posed?
"who is leading us down the 'chute'?"

can anybody else see the profound message in the Temple Grandin designs, intuitive, holistic insights, that clearly has its roots in a totally different perspective than yours and yours and yours and most of the mainstream?

Watch the video please, again, and see if you can find the answer to the question "who is leading us down the 'chute'?"

feel free to ignore my request too, I am used to the ignorant putting me on ignore? 

 anybody else find the answer to that question?

keep working on those numbers barbi-TONE, we might need to use your 'genius' to figure out what frequencies we should employ as we are being lead down the spiraling chute... 

You do want to get the chance to play along right?
Right when the time comes to do the right thing?

By going to the LEFT?
What if deciding to go right or left is part of the cosmic plan?

what if
*right and left would refer to clockwise/sunwise/christ vs. counterclockwise/moonwise/anti-christ*

most folks don't know that the swastika/s were symbols for both the SUN and the MOON.
But now they do!
helps to know that when discussing the esoteric/exoteric.



Baha'i church outside Chicago.
Can you SEE the SWASTIKA along with what other symbols?

>>The fact that Marko Rodin got much of his insight/inspiration/direction from the Baha'i sez what exactly?
that I ignore this FACT of his source?
A source of genius you fail to acknowledge.

what I propose is BS you have suggested in the past
however it appears that it could be much much closer to the mark, the age of Taurus bulls-eye than EWE, you and u are willing to admit?

namaste
 

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Vortex (Torus) Based Mathematics | Marko Rodin (circa ...

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Within, you will be taken on a spiraling tour through the toroidal roller coaster of our deterministic universe. Dark ...
 

Vortex Based Mathematics - Marko Rodin - YouTube

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RodinAerodynamics.org with Marko Rodin and the Rodin Coil is an educational ... Multiplication series are unbroken rings from cross sections of the torus.

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RodinAerodynamics.org - Marko Rodin - Rodin Coil

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RodinAerodynamics.org with Marko Rodin and the Rodin Coil is an educational ... Multiplication series are unbroken rings from cross sections of the torus.

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 25/02/2016 16:14
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Originally Posted by theflow View Post
Rodins coil reminds me of penrose tiling or more precisely the Penrose "Rhombs". The outer edge of the torus being the "fat" dart that coil inward into the skinny "dart" and back out again. 

The skinny Penrose dart which is also the golden triangle ( 72, 72, 36, degrees) 
The "fat" dart forms the golden gnomon ( 36, 36, 108 degrees).



The rhombs fit right into the pentagram which makes sense given the golden ratio is derived from it.


The mirrored rhombs in the above form the the Penrose kite and dart.
http://www2.spsu.edu/math/tile/aperi...e/penrose2.htm

Can read more as well here http://goldennumber.net/penrose.htm

There is a neat little program ( http://stephencollins.net/penrose/ ) that allows for geodesic walks, or using a set of "walking" rules such as bisecting tiles lines in 1/2 to create patterns on the tiling. 

For instance the 3,180-step pentagon



Penrose has been working on whats called "twister" theory for most of his life and I can't help but think its related to the geometry of rodins coil. 

Twister theory is at least to my brain is extremely complicated though when you get down to the math bits . If anyone would like to read more its here http://users.ox.ac.uk/~tweb/00001/index.shtml



Sorry if I derailed the previous threads, just have had this on my mind lately about how it can be applied to rodins work and I wanted to get some of it down before I forgot.
From Marko's book; 
__________________
Squeegee your third-fucking-eye-(Bill Hicks)


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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 25/02/2016 16:15
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From Marko's book; 
Where can I get Marko's book?


Quote:
This is something we need to do more, to train our thought of multidimensional variation of these basic shapes and find the connections, maybe then we also have a better understanding of how multiple dimensions work.. BT
Ya thats the beauty of it, you can blink and see a new form, here is a neat one.
Im still trying to find a relation to the penrose 5 symmetry points and the 5 dimensions which might be a relation of gravity( whats that again lol?) and the electromagnetic force, knows as the Kaluza–Klein theory, maybe the new cern LHC will find out!




Or we can go back in time to Michelangelos Medici Library floor



Giotto Baptistery in Florence (1225!)



That guy Tony Smith you guys linked a few threads ago actually has an interesting page about this and its link to the I-ching and musical sequence http://www.valdostamuseum.com/hamsmith/pwtile.html

I don't want to ramble on and would prefer to get more into detail, but I stumbled upon this cool web app today and its taken up all my time. Maybe you guys will enjoy it as well.
http://www.subblue.com/projects/guilloche


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