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Geometrically, the swastika can be regarded as an irregular icosagon or 20-sided polygon. The proportions of the Nazi swastika were fixed based on a 5 × 5 diagonal grid.[5]
Characteristic is the 90° rotational symmetry and chirality, hence the absence of reflectional symmetry, and the existence of two versions of swastikas that are each other's mirror image.
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A right-facing swastika might be described as "clockwise" or "counter-clockwise".
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The mirror-image forms are often described as:
- clockwise and anti-clockwise;
- left-facing and right-facing;
- left-hand and right-hand.
"Left-facing" and "right-facing" are used mostly consistently referring to the upper arm of an upright swastika facing either to the viewer's left (卍) or right (卐). The other two descriptions are ambiguous as it is unclear whether they refer to the arms as leading or being dragged or whether their bending is viewed outward or inward. However, "clockwise" usually refers to the "right-facing" swastika. The terms are used inconsistently in modern times, which is confusing and may obfuscate an important point, that the rotation of the swastika may have symbolic relevance, although ancient vedic scripts describe the symbolic relevance of clock motion and counter clock motion.[citation needed] Less ambiguous terms might be "clockwise-pointing" and "counterclockwise-pointing."
Nazi ensigns had a through and through image, so both versions were present, one on each side, but the Nazi flag on land was right-facing on both sides and at a 45° rotation.[6]
The name "sauwastika" is sometimes given to the left-facing form of the swastika (卍).[7]
[edit] Origin hypotheses
Among the earliest cultures utilizing swastika is the neolithic Vinča culture of South-East Europe (see Vinča symbols).
More extensive use of the Swastika can be traced to Ancient India, during the Indus Valley Civilazation.
The swastika is a repeating design, created by the edges of the reeds in a square basket-weave. Other theories attempt to establish a connection via cultural diffusion or an explanation along the lines of Carl Jung's collective unconscious.
The genesis of the swastika symbol is often treated in conjunction with cross symbols in general, such as the sun cross of pagan Bronze Age religion. Beyond its certain presence in the "proto-writing" symbol systems emerging in the Neolithic,[8] nothing certain is known about the symbol's origin. There are nevertheless a number of speculative hypotheses. One hypothesis is that the cross symbols and the swastika share a common origin in simply symbolizing the sun. Another hypothesis is that the 4 arms of the cross represent 4 aspects of nature - the sun, wind, water, soil. Some have said the 4 arms of cross are four seasons, where the division for 90-degree sections correspond to the solstices and equinoxes. The Hindus represent it as the Universe in our own spiral galaxy in the fore finger of Lord Vishnu. This carries most significance in establishing the creation of the Universe and the arms as 'kal' or time, a calendar that is seen to be more advanced than the lunar calendar (symbolized by the lunar crescent common to Islam) where the seasons drift from calendar year to calendar year. The luni-solar solution for correcting season drift was to intercalate an extra month in certain years to restore the lunar cycle to the solar-season cycle. The Star of David is thought to originate as a symbol of that calendar system, where the two overlapping triangles are seen to form a partition of 12 sections around the perimeter with a 13th section in the middle, representing the 12 and sometimes 13 months to a year. As such, the Christian cross, Jewish hexagram star and the Muslim crescent moon are seen to have their origins in different views regarding which calendar system is preferred for marking holy days. Groups in higher latitudes experience the seasons more strongly, offering more advantage to the calendar represented by the swastika/cross.
Mosaic swastika in excavated Byzantine(?) church in Shavei Tzion (Israel)
Carl Sagan in his book Comet (1985) reproduces Han period Chinese manuscript (the Book of Silk, 2nd century BC) that shows comet tail varieties: most are variations on simple comet tails, but the last shows the comet nucleus with four bent arms extending from it, recalling a swastika. Sagan suggests that in antiquity a comet could have approached so close to Earth that the jets of gas streaming from it, bent by the comet's rotation, became visible, leading to the adoption of the swastika as a symbol across the world.[9] Bob Kobres in Comets and the Bronze Age Collapse (1992) contends that the swastika like comet on the Han Dynasty silk comet atlas was labeled a "long tailed pheasant star" (Di-Xing) because of its resemblance to a bird's foot or track. Kobres goes on to suggest an association of mythological birds and comets also outside China.
In Life's Other Secret (1999), Ian Stewart suggests the ubiquitous swastika pattern arises when parallel waves of neural activity sweep across the visual cortex during states of altered consciousness, producing a swirling swastika-like image, due to the way quadrants in the field of vision are mapped to opposite areas in the brain.[10]
Alexander Cunningham suggested that the Buddhist use of the shape arose from a combination of Brahmi characters abbreviating the words su astí.[3]
[edit] Archaeological record
The earliest swastika known has been found from Mezine, Ukraine. It is carved on late paleolithic figurine of mammoth ivory, being dated as early as about 10,000 BC. It has been suggested this swastika is a stylized picture of a stork in flight.[11]
In India, Bronze Age swastika symbols were found at Lothal and Harappa, on Indus Valley seals.[12] In England, neolithic or Bronze Age stone carvings of the symbol have been found on Ilkley Moor.
Swastikas have also been found on pottery in archaeological digs in Africa, in the area of Kush and on pottery at the Jebel Barkal temples,[13] in Iron Age designs of the northern Caucasus (Koban culture), and in Neolithic China in the Majiabang,[14] Dawenkou and Xiaoheyan cultures.[15] Other Iron Age attestations of the swastika can be associated with Indo-European cultures such as the Indo-Iranians, Celts, Greeks and Germanic peoples and Slavs.
The swastika is also seen in Egypt during the Coptic period. Textile number T.231-1923 held at the V&A Museum in London includes small swastikas in its design. This piece was found at Qau-el-Kebir, near Asyut, and is dated between AD300-600.
The Tierwirbel (the German for "animal whorl" or "whirl of animals"[16]) is a characteristic motive in Bronze Age Central Asia, the Eurasian Steppe, and later also in Iron Age Scythian and European (Baltic[17] and Germanic) culture, showing rotational symmetric arrangement of an animal motive, often four birds' heads. Even wider diffusion of this "Asiatic" theme has been proposed, to the Pacific and even North America (especially Moundville).[18
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| Celebrating independance day in my opinion has gone from… |
…has gone from creating independence to the creation of a dependence.
…on cheap hydrocarbon energy.
July 4th is when Sirius conjuncts with our sun Sol baby.
July 4th when the dog days of Sumer NOT summer begin … 
(sirius = dog-star)
Sirius was the most revered star of the Egyptians.
AmeriKAn one dollar bill has a pyramid on it eh?
With the all-seeing eye?
KA meant what to the Egyptians?
KAballah or CAbala
MerKAba
VatiCAn
MecCA
KA‘bah stone in MecCA
KA Ba … Ancient Egyptians believed a human soul was made up of five parts: the Ren, the Ba, the Ka, the Sheut, and the Ib.
Swasti means good luck.
The powerful divine SwastiKA is being used against the herd of EWE….and fear is the button THEY keep pushing.
NOT the Love button, have you noticed?
Symbol illiteracy is going to cost the EWE their freedoms…
Wake up.
Siriusly
I have a plan to take over the vorld…want to join in?
Here is how….flood the streets of AmeriKA wearing swastiKAs.
NOT the Nazi adopted one however…there are sooo many to chose from….
Watch the Zionists, the NEOCons and the POPE flip, THEY will then know THEY have been exposed.
AND the symbol that fulfills an archetype capable of connecting the Macrocosm with the microcosm will be once again part of human consciousness.
Simple plan…easy to put into action and peaceful.
Wear on your hearts and sleeves a symbol that can be compared to DNA, neutrinos and swirling galaxies…
It will represent the swirling grassroots force, people united by a united cause that reflects the life force itself….
Surround the White House NOT with guns….
THEY will just kill the ewe.
Surround every government building with people wearing the swastiKA…then we have won.
Why?
Because the only way we can defeat the THEY is to show a unity of purpose and a melding of hearts and minds…
The swastiKA is the ONLY symbol capable of uniting EAST with WEST, NORTH and SOUTH.
IMHO
Symbol illiteracy is going to cost the EWE their freedoms…
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Eins Zwei Drei Vier ….. (repeat)
translation:
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
About face, time to turn around…
…is a clue
How to do the Goosestep…
In that video re: Hitler … go back to the end of Part IV.
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odpfOS4rFLw&feature=related]
The crypt tour guide Stuart thinking rather little, takes 3 STEPs into the recessed circle, claims it pertains to the ‘3rd Reich’ and then he russells up the courage to take one more final step, a 4th STEP down into the center of the circle?
Stuart does not ‘see’ the obvious, the obvious that is obvious, but once the veil is removed and you start to ‘see’ the obvious, it becomes quite obvious, obviously.
Need I say it is glaringly obvious one more time?
Okay, it is obvious.
 
One photo above is a Masonic representation of a ‘cycle’.
The other image of the Greek Zodiacal Cross, with the serpent intertwined was the inspiration of Aleister Crowley.
How do we connect the Macro equinox (precession) with the micro equinox (vernal/annual), to a cycle that is found onall levels, existing between the big macrocosm and the small, the microcosm?
 
Including Milo Wolff’s theory?
In Wave vs Out Wave = Standing Wave Theory
And beside Milo’s archetypal model is another.
Interesting relationship we see between concentric circles and Phi?
Could Phi represent the transcendental ‘pulse’ that creates concentric wave action…leading to spherical standing waves?
Why 12?
Could the 12 in the temple symbolize the 12 constellations that sit on the ecliptic, further signifying their inherent energetic role, taking part in a journey, tracking our sun through The Great Year, a 25,812 year sojourn?
(re: 25,812…the length of precession is under dispute)
Alchemy was referred to as the Great Work and it takes a Great deal of time.
The next step in the unveiling of the Great Work is quite easy.
Substitute numbers for a constellation/astrological position on the ecliptic.
Each sign is identified on the astrological wheel by a number.
That is the rule, not something I made up.
And the wheel begins with ARIES in the number 1 position at 0 degrees.
Please note that in ARIES the snake is consuming its tail.
Similar to the ouroboros, another symbol that represents a cycle of time.
 
Room 1258 / the Crypt contains significant symbolism regarding 4 of those constellations that sit on the ecliptic….specifically referring to the 4 beasts of the apocalypse represented by the constellations represented by the numbers 11, 2, 5, and 8.
We find those 4 numbers are ALL on the second orbit / valance, marked in yellow in the above image.
And I used those colors WHITE, YELLOW, and RED for an important reason.
Which becomes apparent later.
And then we join the dots…you can go in either direction.
We can rotate clockwise around the clock/elemental and zodiacal cross 1 >> 2 >> 3 >> 4 etc. OR you can do what the term precession implies, and go backwards or counterclockwise.
Again the concepts of Clockwise and CounterClockwise play a role.
And now we can mention that the Judaeo/Christian Ezekiel’s vision was wheels within wheels….
 
Here is an earlier sketch I did showing those 4 numbers (11, 2, 5, 8) and their position on the Zodiacal cross.
And I want to mention that beside the Greek Zodiacal Cross is a Chaldean Zodiacal Cross, that I just recently came across.
We can apply the same techniques to the Chaldean Cross because it also represents the Precession cycle…but it has an additional wheel within a wheel.
So it becomes apparent that the movement that is implied by the Precession of the Equinox cycle … by virtue of its movement or path along the ecliptic the Sun actually weaves a ‘knot’.
A ‘knot’ that was associated with and please choose as many that apply…
a/ King Solomon
b/ Sacred temple
c/ Knights Templar
d/ The Ark of the Covenant
e/ The Holy Grail
f/ Swastika
g/ Americas
h/ ancient navigation tool called the mattang
i/ TIME that can be expressed as Clockwise and Counterclockwise
j/ SPIN that can be expressed as Clockwise and Counterclockwise
k/ Polarity that can be expressed as Clockwise and Counterclockwise
l/ Electron vs. Positron that can be expressed as Clockwise and Counterclockwise
m/ Zoroaster’s 4 Oracles
n/ Riddle of the Sphinx
o/ Milky Way
p/ 2012 prophecy
q/ Standing Wave Theory
r/ All of the above?
I am sure I can find reasons/associations from A-Z.
Maybe I post the rest later.
 
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A section of the vast expanse of mosaic floor, found under the floor of the Aquileian basilica. The floor is longer than that of the great basilica. It extends past the presbytery to an undisclosed end. The scenes of Jonah’s tribulation, of which the center panel is shown above, lies further along past the top of the illustration.Solomon’s knot, a Judaic motif, is repeated here as well as throughout the mosaic floors of the adjoining buildings.
http://www.hebrewhistory.info/factpa…28_aquilea.htm |
I love it.
A mosaic floor filled with archetypal clues.
HIDDEN or veiled under another floor.
By who?
 
And the circle containing the fixed cross>>> the swastika >>> the quatrefoil actually tells an interesting story … suggesting a progression is taking place.
Fixed Cross within the circle is balance…but then we see movement, the ancient graphic artist used the same technique to indicate ‘movement’.
The bent arms of the swastika indicate a counterclockwise movement will thus ensue.
Counterclockwise is the movement of the earth, looking down from above…
And the final shape are four spirals within a quatrefoil = ONE precession cycle.
And the images inside those quatrefoils are suggesting this cycle of time is about the infinite cycle of LIFE that takes place, as a result of this cycle taking place, on earth is where the narratives we see depicted taking place.
I have been suggesting on ALL my threads that Precession, Precession, Precession is what the really important archetypes are all pointing toward.
Or Location Location Location becomes important too when discussing valuable real estate in the solar system.
How difficult would it be, to bury a cycle called The Great Year or a symbol like the swastika within western consciousness?
How difficult would that be?
I will show you that any esoteric understanding of the SUN has long ago disappeared from our consciousness.
What is mainstream consciousness?
Mainstream in my opinion represents about 95% of the people.
About the same percentage of JUNK DNA identified by the ‘gee’ gnome experts.
About the same percentage of Dark Matter + Dark Energy that exists in the Universe.
About the same percentage of the life on earth that gets eliminated when the cataclysms hit.
I then proceed to ask ‘mainstream consciousness’ three questions, that expose their plight as a cult of Sun worshipers who have no idea what they are worshiping.
1/ What does the moon orbit and how long does it take?
2/ What does the earth orbit and how long does it take?
Now here is the question that stumps civilizations that turn rain forests into a sea of stumps.
3/ What does the sun orbit and how long does it take?
“Duh” is the response to match the expression I usually get…is there a difference.
95% of the sheeple will bleat nothing and reach for either the TV remote, a beer, or a bible.
All three reactions are highly predictable.
The extent of their consciousness has been exposed.
I rest mi case.
Most people are sheeple and seegullibles…no offence directed at anybody specifically.
And HIS-story will repeat it itself because the ewe simply don’t learn from it.
They are doomed to rebleat rebleat rebleat.
I now want to illustrate why I identified certain colors with certain valances or orbits.
Why I identified WHITE, YELLOW and RED with certain stages.
It is all about alchemy and change and evolution and reversals of fortune.
Alchemy is the language of archetype that will help us become golden.
Note the stages of alchemy and the colors associated.
Black was not mentioned earlier because it is the center.
1/ blackening
2/ whitening
3/ yellowing
4/ reddening
 
Rosetta Fractal Mandala
I found / photographed this symbol in a Peruvian monastery back in 2006.
It is the archetypal image that I used to unlock these mysteries that I now share on this website…hence the name I now use to identify it.
The Rosetta Fractal Mandala has ‘Standing Wave Theory’ written all over it.
IMHO
1/ blackening
2/ whitening
3/ yellowing
4/ reddening
On each and every level of the matrix, invisible or visible, the science of alchemy / thermodynamics are at play.
I forgot to mention another interesting observation that occurred in the crypt / Room 1258.
When Stuart was standing in the center of the circle / NAZI world and he looked up what did he see?
Go back and watch the video and tell me if it matches what I found in Pompeii.
In a place called the Villa of the Mysteries.
Remember they found the Knights Templar Magic Square in Pompeii, so it existed at least 1000 years before it became associated with the fighting monks known as the Knights Templar.
 
That scroll runs the entire length of the perimeter of the room where the archetypal narrative is taking place.
Okay so we have identified one of the images that we see on the wall in the villa.
The same image we see on the ceiling in the NAZI version of Valhalla is on the wall in the Villa.
And the image that alternates with the swastika, the image consisting of concentric squares, I have seen often.
It is known as a ‘lozenge’.
All we need to do is rotate the square into a diamond or lozenge shape.
 
And the lozenge is associated with the feminine aspect.
http://www.celticnz.co.nz/BBLOZ/BBLOZWEB1.htm
http://www.celticnz.co.nz/Clandonweb…Clandon6a.htmf
And the 3 x 3 square is our friend, the Lo Shu magic square at the very centre…
So let us enter Valhalla one more time.
Remember the Crypt is located below the North Tower.
We look up and see the MALE symbol on the ceiling, above us.
And the circular temple we are standing in represents the earth, the alchemic forge of nature.
It is also the lozenge that helps soothe the bitter pill we must swallow.
It all fits.
In conclusion:
Here is an ancient theory still valid today.
figure 215 above I want to suggest tells an interesting story.
It is actually suggesting the same thing as Milo Wolff.
I see an ancient attempt to communicate Spherical Standing Wave Theory.
>>> Cross within a Circle moves CW or CCW
>>> Swastika moves CW or CCW
>>> resulting in Solomon’s Knot = Standing Wave Theory
 
And I think the ancient Polynesian mattang which contains ALL the magic of the Knights Templar magic square, found in Pompeii, is a navigational tool, a GPS, left by the ancients, termed a survival tool by the Polynesians, can in fact be used to help modern man navigate our way through the ‘2012 Stargate’.
Somebody tell those fellas at CERN to stand down.
There is another way to move this mountain, to make us skip like a stone over the surface of the water.
IMHO
2bee continue
namaste
Raphael
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  See the resemblance AGAIN between these symbols? This one has the solar symbol, the goose or swan , along with two versions of the swastika too.  http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost ... stcount=40Is that why Hitler had his gaggle of NAZIs goose-stepping, roaming through the Holy Roman European Empire?  And in GREEK....goose is ARGUS. And project ARGUS was one of the MOST SECRET operations ever conducted by 'THEY'. viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8832&st=0&sk=t&sd=anamaste
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another 528 or 258 connection. (both are solfeggio frequencies, along with 852) 528 pages and...The Lost Symbol book release date Sept. 15, 2009, which just happens to be the 258th day of the year and also on the 15th of September 1935, Nazi germany adopts a new national flag…with a Swastika! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_15I could not have written a better story than what is actually unfolding. What has already been uttered. No way.  namaste
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moSeS crossing the Reed See AND the mystic cross on his robe? Above image was found buried in the Roman Catacombs. In the vicinity of what Peter built his church over? Could this image represent part of the foundation of what Peter's Church is built over?     And the Rosicrucian compass rose star in the sky? What star do you believe is that guiding moSeS and the Hebrews to the promised land? I found a similar cross in the center of the Rosetta Fractal.  And of course NATO is aware that their TRUE BLUE cross that can morph into a dark secret...simply a law of nature?   Above to the right is my avatar on this forum. I wonder if Hitler who saw himself as an Avatar (an incarnation/reincarnation) and me would fight over this symbol today if he were alive? namaste Raphael
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“A theory is more impressive the greater is the simplicity of its premise, the more different are the kinds of things it relates and the more extended its range of applicability…”
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So ol Ralph, who has been bleating us to death about Swastikas may be proven correct?  Looking down on the current North Pole, we can identify at least 3 previous positions of the pole according to Hapgood. These are shown roughly by the numbered red dots.
what if? can we predict using that map 'where next'? Just call me the 'swastika hunter', in search of the Lost Symbol ... how many places can we find it? Visiting all of the pre-christian sites, and post, that harbor this pre-literate, archaic symbol, found WORLDWIDE...that might be a clue. And matching it up with sacred geometry, laws of nature, and modern quantum science, light and sound. This is the KEY to Universal Movement...all swirly quantum schieSSe = SwaStika namaste
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  Image: Popaganda IG Farben, 1943 The above image of the 'propanganda' issued by IG Farben reminds me of a very common alchemical archetype. Anybody else see the resemblance to a common theme?   sketch of: The Church of the Holy Sepulchre and some kind of complex in Baghdad, post American occupation, that looks similar again to our 'vessel'?
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The Empire of I.G. Farben
Farben was Hitler and Hitler was Farben. (Senator Homer T. Bone to Senate Committee on Military Affairs, June 4, 1943.)
On the eve of World War II the German chemical complex of I.G. Farben was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world, with extraordinary political and economic power and influence within the Hitlerian Nazi state. I. G. has been aptly described as "a state within a state."
The Farben cartel dated from 1925, when organizing genius Hermann Schmitz (with Wall Street financial assistance) created the super-giant chemical enterprise out of six already giant German chemical companies — Badische Anilin, Bayer, Agfa, Hoechst, Weiler-ter-Meer, and Griesheim-Elektron. These companies were merged to become Inter-nationale Gesellschaft Farbenindustrie A.G. — or I.G. Farben for short. Twenty years later the same Hermann Schmitz was put on trial at Nuremburg for war crimes committed by the I. G. cartel. Other I. G. Farben directors were placed on trial but the American affiliates of I. G. Farben and the American directors of I. G. itself were quietly forgotten; the truth was buried in the archives.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books ... ter_02.htmHitler's power was derived from I.G. Farben? NOW can anybody tell me whose offices were based in the I.G. Farben building post WWII and into the 1960s? Pick one: ACI AIC ICA IAC CAI CIA namaste Raphael
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From time to time I will cut and paste, from the Electric Universe, EU forum I participate on at Thunderbolts. http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... /index.php I am having quite the time at that forum matching up the archetypes that are found everywhere. Does not matter the belief. Electric Sun or Nuclear Sun, beneath the surface of belief are always the same ARKetypes. Please take note that this post was DELETED, snuffed out at Thunderbolts. This image was taken from the following discussion at Thunderbolts. http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... .php?t=962
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Caption: This is what the direction of the lines of force really looks like, demonstrated with a cubical magnet having the top face for the north pole and the bottom face for the south pole (top) as opposed to (bottom)  I know this thread is about Re: Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics I wonder if this post of mine stays within the parameters of the discussion? I feel it does. Will I be discussing Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics? I feel I do. The symbol I want to discuss represents all of the above. It is a divine archetype ... a divine fractal ... an image frozen in time that has withstood time itself. Arc can I suggest that different versions of this ancient symbol is the 'template' for where modern EU theory is headed? What would a Shaman or Scribe scribble after accessing the 'other' side? After returning with a message, based on 3D hallucinations?   I especially like the Aztec version. This following symbol was found in the valley of Mexico around the turn of the 20th century. It dates from pre-Hispanic / pre-Columbus conquest.  Key to Universal Movement It was referred to as the Key to Universal Movement This symbol was also found in Rome. Please note the shape of the third symbol which contains the sacred Jewish Solomon's Knot in the center. And what about the first two? Whirly whorls blowin' up yer kilt, a place where no mann is an isle.  Now I know what kind of response to expect when posing the following question. What if the swastika were to become the symbol connected to a new paradigm involving an Electrical Universe? I cannot think of a better symbol. Thunderbolts >>> Thor >>> hammer of Thor >>> swastika Too obvious isn't it? But it is easily proven that western herd mentality (a.k.a. the collective consciousness) does not want to stray there and discuss this symbol, because of its associations with a time bestforgot? Please understand this inability to discuss the swastika openly is only a western phenomena. What if, as I have proposed elsewhere, the swastika was adopted with intent and then associated with a heinous crime, and then this symbol has been flashed like a beacon, part of the programming with only one intent? And the intent has intuitively become clear to me. The conspiracy I believe is simply to turn our consciousness away from this symbol that has divine origins and purpose. What if this is something that can be proven? I have pondered why don't we flash the $ and the crucifix on the boob tube every time we show a heinous crime being committed against humanity? Why do we not discuss the elimination of Mesoamerica by the descendants of Mesopotamia, and at the same time, flash the crucifix like a beacon to be feared? And what drove these crucifix waving Jesuits who headed for the four corners of the globe? Tales of spiritual and material gold represented best by the $ was and still is the primary motive of what drove the Judeao/Christian/Muslim invaders and colonialists ... an attempt toreplicate their beliefs. One of DNAs primary functions is to replicate. The $ and crucifix can easily be shown to have committed more crimes against humanity than the ancient 20,000 year old swastika. Think about that fact. Now remember what I said about the swastika being marginalized only within the western consciousness? The swastika is still being revered by many eastern and indigenous tribes throughout the world. But here is the conspiracy born of weakness of mind and spirit. Within western consciousness, a consciousness being taught to fear the swastika, what may I ask primarily drives the western consciousness today? Who or what is in control of our behaviors? The Christian Vatican represented by the crucifix and Consumerism represented by the $and thus controlled by the State. (think of the $ as a serpent coiled around the y axis) So there I propose is the conspiracy, a conspiracy that we all contribute too simply by how and what we think about, and by what we believe in. Control the symbols that go deep within the consciousness of the collective and you control the flow of humanity. We are the THEY that we fear. Sadly we fear our own shadows. But THEY fear an enlighten WE. Remember that. IMHO In conclusion I feel if the Electric Universe is looking for a mascot or a banner or a symbol to represent Magnetism: Form, Structure, & Dynamics, I believe we need look no further. The reason the swastika is still around is because TRUTH endures. No matter now many times you attempt to slay it. It resurrects...as a matter of fact...the swastika and DNA both represented by chirality or handedness, would simply replicate itself. Consider me one of Truth's messengers. The swastika is GOOD and we should ALL meditate on it. It is DIVINE. You doubt my intuitive journey? In an upside down world ... this is how it ends folks. Endings always have a twist at the end.  namaste Raphael
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“A theory is more impressive the greater is the simplicity of its premise, the more different are the kinds of things it relates and the more extended its range of applicability…”
-Einstein
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DOMO DEL TEMPLO DE SAN PEDRO (LA SANTA CRUZ/ LETRA T / TIEMPO) NOS SEÑALIZA EL RELOJ DEL VATICANO ("EXPERIMENTO FILADELFIA") - FIESTA DE LA SANTA CRUZ (14/15 DE SEPTIEMBRE / "THE LOST SYMBOL" (DAN BROWN))
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LA ESVASTICA NAZI Y SU RELACION CON EL 15 DE SEPTIEMBRE (DIA DE LA SANTA CRUZ)
The name swastika comes from the Sanskrit word svastika (Devanagari: ...... It was adopted as the sole national flag on September 15, 1935 (see Nazi Germany) ...
National flag of Germany (1933–35), jointly with the swastika flag. ... On 15 September 1935, one year after the death of Reich President Paul von Hindenburg ...
4 nov. 2014 - On Sept. 15, 1935, the black swastika on a white circle with a red background became the national flag of Germany. This use of the swastika ...
The word Swastika comes from the Sanskrit words su, meaning well, and asti, meaning to be. ..... It was adopted as the sole national flag on 15 September 1935.
5 sept. 2012 - Swastika Flag Specifications and Construction Sheet (Germany) ... Disc and Swastika · Flags used 11th March 1933 - 15th September 1935 ...
20 nov. 2013 - Flags used 11 March 1933 - 15 September 1935 ... declared theswastika flag the [sole] national flag of Germany in September 1935.
2 dic. 2013 - Centred vs. Offset Disc and Swastika 1933-1945 (Germany) ... In particular the flag law of 15 September 1935 did not do that. It is in any event ...
The swastika remains a core symbol of Neo-Nazi groups. Since the end of ..... It was adopted as the sole national flag on 15 September 1935. The swastika was ...
The BNP had won its first council seat in Tower Hamlets on 16 September 1993. ... Protection of German Blood and Honour, both issued on 15 September 1935.
By definition, the swastika is a primitive symbol or ornament in the form of a cross. ... one which precipitated the Nuremberg Flag Laws of September 15, 1935.
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Originally Posted by major seven  But as I mentioned, they do look like DISCONNECTED swastica parts, Yes?
With a extra little arm thingy.
Now what happens when you put two of them together at right angels?
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 study these, take your pick, there is apparently one available that fits most major belief systems.really why is that? go to bed every night with one of these images placed into the mind. if you have difficulty sleeping, imagine a swirling swastika. that is what I do. call me in a year. >> magic 
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Originally Posted by major seven My theory is, a few thousand odd years ago plus a few days, some artistically inclined dude or dudette was hovering around a campfire
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 You stole that theory from this fella >>>
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The Zoroastrian regions were the only places in the pre-industrial world where oil naturally sprang from the ground. Thus, from the dawn of prehistory, a line of the human race had much greater material ease for producing bright and permanent fires. Without being aware of it, they practiced Phosphenism, but did not analyze the details of the process: thinking while focusing on a bright fire.
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic...195214#p195214 |
Some really good info on that site.
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Originally Posted by major seven But it only took one shaman/conman to latch onto the design and proclaim it had some sort of power just because it looked cool and was easy to make and had an illusion of rotary movement to get your little swastiball rolling along to other tribes and whoever.
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Only one eh? Well this Shaman sure got around, long long long before Jesus could walk on water OR plebes like yourself learned how to sail the oceans.  Map of Distribution of the Swastika.Note how it seems confined to primarily northern and equatorial countries.
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Originally Posted by major seven Like really Ralph! Do you think folks back then had much in the way of brains to question the swastikas power ...
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They used more of there brain than EWE dude. And I suspect more of their heARTs too... 
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Originally Posted by major seven UMBRELLAS EVERYONE!!! A SHIT STORM APPROACHETH!!!
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Duh No the storm seemed to arrive and leave with EWE.
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Originally Posted by major seven Ralph!
Super Hero!
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thank you again.
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Originally Posted by major seven I'm sure Superman, Batman and all the other Super Heros out there are real impressed.
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Of course they are, the TRUTH meSSenger has arrived, thus humanities GOOD LUCK has returned.
Kinda like Jesus coming back.
A 'reversal' of fortunes.
namaste
Raphael
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Map of Distribution of the Swastika. |
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Originally Posted by orslah I kept looking at the Fibonacci Numbers;
Love Debbie
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http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewto...er=asc&start=0Debbie I am not sure if you have seen this link. it is a compilation of FIBONACCI sources that connect to the pattern detected by moi, regarding the numbers 11, 2, 5, 8 AND some folks in their holier-than-thou IGNORANCE, (and there are many on these forums) seem to believe that only *experts* can see divine patterns? Back to remembering... later I found out the Masonic cipher is 3. (because of its association to gimel and gamma, the two languages that used similar forms of gematria long ago, among other reasons....) so when we add the cipher 3 to 11, 2, 5, 8
the FIGURATIVE FIB that is being VEILeD by the big LITERAL LIE called jesus reveals itself.
So I am suggesting that the advertising camPAIN called jesus was used to VEIL LAWS of NATURE from the pagans that the Church was trying to convert?
Occams Razor applies here folks, in a very big way...why delude yourselves with HIS-story based on the LITERAL LIE called jesus, born 2000 years ago.
An archetypal FIGURATIVE jesus was born 6000 years ago.
Easily proved, based on this zodiacal CODE that folks should start their end of daze with
... 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8,
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5228&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 I love coincidences that reveal patterns... take a look at the post number assigned to that thread I just linked you too. #5228 or 11, 2, 5, 8?  random? or design? design of course, based on certain patterns, just ask the Mann who supplies the NOBEL GEL, the glue that binds all of EWE to YOU using a U?  And the U looks like a magnet or cosmic good luck horseshoe to me. lol lol lol And please note that the horseshoe shape fits nicely into St. Peter's Square.... 
2 versions of OMEGA, man AND please note that the U used as a horseshoe in the image above resembles an upside down OMEGA symbol too? OR that the Masonic cipher 3 can look like an omega symbol too if rotated 90 degrees through space? Mind if I ask a rhetorical question Debbie based on the above image? Why oh why was the Temple of Del phi and the letter/shape/glyph 'E' attributed to Apollo who we see has a swastika on his chest, just like the Buddha?  2 FISH and 5 LOAVES of BREAD = Marko Rodin's cosmic blender concept re: 25Betcha...  Courtyard of the Church of the Multiplication where the miracle of 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish took place, on the shores of the Sea of Galilee. I love patterns...Am I being lead back to the source? By what? right click and take a look at the url # of this image that I posted off the web...OBVIOUSLY the Church of the Multiplication is to be a part of the narration I am supplying. i.e. this is the photo url. http://photos.travellerspoint.com/172034/_DSC5082.jpg You need to know, that before I was lead to 11, 2, 5, 8, I was exploring the numbers 528....re: the solfeggio frequency that heals DNA, as some researchers claim. I was born at 5:28 am? regarding the Church of the Multiplication I want to ask the following questions... a/ does it look like an OMEGA symbol? YES b/ does it fit into st. peter's square? YES c/ is it a mnemonic/shape/temple design pointing toward the Holy Grail, the ARK, our DNA? YES d/ does this 'omega' temple shape fit the binary (1 and 0 ) representation, of what we find in St. Peter's Square Ellipse, as seen from above? YES lordy lordy lordy do ya see it dude? ground control to major tomtom the pope is sending you a message... go here>>> HOLY GRAIL found in ARECIBO Messagehttp://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...ecibo-message/  namaste
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Let's start at the very beginning?
Please do watch this great video, spontaneous combustion in a train station?
Note the pattern on the dance floor?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k&feature=player_embedded#!
Yup that is the 9x9 magic square of the Moon.
And in the center of the 9x9 Moon grid we see the 3x3 Lo Shu magic square of Saturn.
And folks will get on their commuter trains and play the game of Suduko, also played on a 9x9 magic Moon grid.
But if was to ask folks what they know about magic squares, most folks in fact would be rather ignorant of magic squares.
But the sheeple can perform on a grid.
And a 2D grid can be made into a 3D form.
And it is too bad we don't see the world more like that train station.
Both soldiers and children can be made to do their thing on those magic grids.
Then read this thread, to help pry loose a particular MEME message I would like to share....
We are in a cat and mouse game of leapfrog, where ART and LIFE really do take cues from each other.
SOUND is the KEY to harmony?
WHAT if humanity found a KEY that helped unlock a gate, a KEY fashioned out of our vocal cords, a KEY we could all fashion together, ONCE, just ONCE we found ourselves on the same page, but just for a moment?
What kind of magic would happen?
Fucking around with primarily LIGHT, distracted by how fast it can go, etc, has only resulted in a handful of folks spending 10+ billion dollars on CERN.
Only to realize that the elusive graviton, the force carrier for gravity is 'musical'?
That is NOT the HARMONIOUS TRICK that 6 billion folks can participate in.
NOPE
I can think of a better one, that puts us all on the same page, reading one note at a time.
MATH is the universal language many folks claim?
So is MUSIC folks, and most folks would rather sing and dance than do math in a train station with strangers or in a dance club.
'M' Theory collides with 'M' Theory 7000 years later?
Left Brain merges with Right Brain?
MNEME Clay Plate, Samarra Iraq 5000 BCE
Staying on the topic of the MEMEs, the MNEME plate and the letter M for a moment, and what I believe to be a pattern I have detected regarding the M = 3 = W = E
Here is another example of life and art colliding.
They seem to feed off each other.
It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
1963 movie (star studded cast)
(Tesla would notice the 369 in 1963)
The Plot of the Film
In this film, a dying gangster (Jimmy Durante), tells 7 folks about $350,000 buried in the (fictitious) Santa Rosita State Park, near the Mexican border, buried/hidden under a mysterious "big W"
  
Really?  buried under the 'big W'?
And the big W happens to be made up of 4 Palm Trees of Life?
Yes in ancient times the palm tree in some parts of the world was equated with the Tree of Life.
Of course Marko Rodin's Ennegram, the Freemason compass and square and the VW logo are all coincidences, again?
Well, more coincidences, the image on the left I photographed in the Santa Catalina Monastery in Peru, and I affectionately termed it the Rosetta Fractal...based on the Rosetta Stone and it is what sparked my swastika journey leading me eventually to the SS, the Sator Square and Super Symmetry String Theory.
And this SS treasure was dug up by a fella whose last name begins with a W, and he wants to take his ideas straight to the top, to a fella by the name of E Witten?
And let us not forget Marko Rodin, Milo Wolff and a fella called Mo, all of whom still have something to add?
Oh my it gets even better.
 
In the cropped poster image on the left, note how the folks are reaching for the GOLD, Mo' Money Mo is what they covet.
And YES note the BLACK DOOR (gateway) where they bury the Popes in St. Peter's Square, it is positioned where the BLACK bag of $$$ just happens to be?
The je$u$ $alvator is what we are being sold in the here and now...apparently.
je$u$ $alvator which is connected to IHS...
“…the IHC and IHS Conspiracy and You” part II
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/the-ihc-and-ihs-conspiracy-and-you/
I guess because my journey has been about TRUTH, seeking the spiritual gold that lay hidden within, I have been tuning into the obvious, and this process of tuning in has been accelerating during these, the end of the daze.
Coincidentally I wrote the following on 5/3/2008 (those numbers again!!)
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/swastika-and-the-rosetta-fractal-and-the-vatican
Take a look at some of the trivia for this film, Its a Mad Mad Mad Mad World?
Is it loaded with MEMEs and TEMEs?
http://www.clown-ministry.com/index_1.php/articles/movie_review_of_its_a_mad_mad_mad_mad_world/
One more coincidence.
The film ends with a slapstick routine involving an Aerial Firetruck.
I have one more image to show ya.
This seals it Mo.
The Rosetta Fractal, next to a picture of me on Aerial 25, reaching for the top?
Whoaaaaaaaaaaa
TIME to get into tune folks.
...hope you practising your ka-RA-ok-EEEE
...and yes the hills are alive with SOUND of MUSIC.
namaste
Raphael
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KEY 528=Swastika=ancient Spherical Standing Wave Theory
“A theory is more impressive the greater is the simplicity of its premise, the more different are the kinds of things it relates and the more extended its range of applicability…”
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Are fractals considered symmetrical or asymmetrical?
here is what I found when looking for an answer...
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In this paper, we consider the three-party quantum teleportation using non-symmetric states. Considering all possible teleportation scenarios in the three-party quantum teleportation, we show that the asymmetric teleportation would carry more information than symmetrical ones. We also discuss the relation between teleportation protocols and quantum states classficition.
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Asymmetric design carries MORE information...hmm Is that why our brains are asymmetrical, is that why we were given asymmetric LEFT and RIGHT hands? Can you imagine if the herd of ewe had two left feet or two right hands? How much could you carry, how far could you travel?  Is that why the asymmetrical swastika is an apt messenger to carry information between the realms, Hermes? What say thee Thoth? Mercury speak up. tannah what kind of 4.5 CROSS-over messages are you suggesting open the gates? re: 52 or 25 take a look at the image, in the lower left, at the Buddhist mandala. can you see the numbers 52 in the NORTH? can you see the numbers 25 in the SOUTH? Let me explain the potential of where I AM going with this.  Potent / Jerusalem Cross also has the identifiable 52 or 25 on each of its FOUR Arms. cha cha cha another of ole' Raphael's recoveries from the universal memory pool, anybody can acceSS. IMHO Why and how did I access this archetypal knowledge? Just by living more consciously once the patterns started revealing themselves.   i.e. The Magic CarpetI bought a wool rug back in the mid-eighties, on an island in Greece called Santorini, in a town called Thira/Fira. More than twenty years later I still walk daily across the rug, sometimes I even whirl and twirl like a sufi on it, it is also a reversible rug. It is green on white on one side, and white on green on the reverse. Then, not that long ago it occurred to me, we are immersed in divine archetypes as we walk the earth, in the here and now. As my ancestors did...as my children will. TRUTH transcends...especially archetype. That is why C. Jung believes alchemy is the language of archetype.The archetypal Meandering 'Tiber' River and 52/25 The Meander and 52/25Can we apply knowledge of a meandering river to 52525252 and PHYSICS in studying xyz? How many rivers emanated from the center of EDEN?Of course that wool rug has that 5252525252 design running the perimeter of that woolly rug I was drawn too back in Greece. It has become very apparent to me that we collect material objects, that speak to us, using their shape and form. i.e. Why does the phallus attract both men and women?Want to see a binary representation of how the PRIME numbers manifest?  Thus using the language of archetype...ole' Raphael wants to lay claim to another AHA! The phallus/obelisk is a binary representation of how PRIME numbers map out when plotted on an x and y grid.Shall we continue with the potential of the cross found in Jerusalem? Yes the 52525252 scroll is very interesting tannah, but but but it gets much much better. What is quite interesting dude, and it supports my contentious theory, (contentious to closed-minded plebes) is what we find positioned in the 4 CORNERS of that rectangular rug. The glyph we find woven in those corners supports the work you, Lui and me have recognized and acknowledged. And as always, confirmations such as these take us deeper down the hole.   ODAL Rune The ODAL is the shape we find in those 4 corners, of my woolly lebensraum rug (living-room), as the 5252525252 scroll meanders its way in a straight line, and then as it tries to navigate the 90 degree bend, aka the right angled corner, the shape of the meander is CROSSed-OVER. And my living room rug is a PROFOUND clue to what we have been yakking about when discussing 4.5. And as my discussion about the ODAL suggested earlier on this thread ... it has been placed a contentious last, in the RUNE alphabet. (others suggest dagaz should be last) Does the shape/glyph that I found in the 4 Corners region of my magic carpet, represent the 4.5 CROSS-over?And the CROSS-over is attained by TWISTING the 5252525 scroll like you would a Mobius strip? The shape we find in those 4 corners is a RUNE, that I have already discussed on this thread. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=2202And my penetrating insight using the Runes shall assist others in bringing ruin to organized religion and the lost in space science we are being subjected to.   Magic Carpet and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobius StripWhat did the religious/science plebes think an enlightenment involved? A walk in the park or a ride on my magic carpet? St. Peter and the way he was crucified on an upside down crucifix... suggests enlightenment involves having your world turned upside down OR inside out as the MIRROR analogy and the Mobius strip both suggest. tannah another profound coincidence re: 5 and 4 and my GREEN/white magic carpet. There are 5 pairs of 52 running the length and 4 pairs of 52 that span the width. GREEN was the color that represented the Holy Spirit in the Middle Ages. And the Solfeggio frequency that heals DNA is around 528 hertz and it is associated with the color GREEN. And it can be also shown how the Holy Spirit = SS and is profoundly connected to 55 and 22/7 = Pi.Thus to summarize: Holy Spirit = Pi CARD X of the Tarot (connected to precession?) = phi more to come....Namaste
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thank you
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Originally Posted by major seven But as I mentioned, they do look like DISCONNECTED swastica parts, Yes?
With a extra little arm thingy.
Now what happens when you put two of them together at right angels?
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study these, take your pick, there is apparently one available that fits most major belief systems.really why is that? go to bed every night with one of these images placed into the mind. if you have difficulty sleeping, imagine a swirling swastika. that is what I do. call me in a year. >> magic
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Originally Posted by major seven My theory is, a few thousand odd years ago plus a few days, some artistically inclined dude or dudette was hovering around a campfire
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You stole that theory from this fella >>>
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The Zoroastrian regions were the only places in the pre-industrial world where oil naturally sprang from the ground. Thus, from the dawn of prehistory, a line of the human race had much greater material ease for producing bright and permanent fires. Without being aware of it, they practiced Phosphenism, but did not analyze the details of the process: thinking while focusing on a bright fire.
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic...195214#p195214 |
Some really good info on that site.
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Originally Posted by major seven But it only took one shaman/conman to latch onto the design and proclaim it had some sort of power just because it looked cool and was easy to make and had an illusion of rotary movement to get your little swastiball rolling along to other tribes and whoever.
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Only one eh? Well this Shaman sure got around, long long long before Jesus could walk on water OR plebes like yourself learned how to sail the oceans. Map of Distribution of the Swastika.Note how it seems confined to primarily northern and equatorial countries.
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Originally Posted by major seven Like really Ralph! Do you think folks back then had much in the way of brains to question the swastikas power ...
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They used more of there brain than EWE dude. And I suspect more of their heARTs too...
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Originally Posted by major seven UMBRELLAS EVERYONE!!! A SHIT STORM APPROACHETH!!!
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Duh No the storm seemed to arrive and leave with EWE.
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Originally Posted by major seven Ralph!
Super Hero!
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thank you again.
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Originally Posted by major seven I'm sure Superman, Batman and all the other Super Heros out there are real impressed.
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Of course they are, the TRUTH meSSenger has arrived, thus humanities GOOD LUCK has returned.
Kinda like Jesus coming back.
A 'reversal' of fortunes.
namaste
Raphael
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Go to 1:18:17 for an explanation of how to find the speed of light in the Great Pyramid.
“The cube and the sphere are the sole working tools of creation“
-Walter Russell
Another very strange Great Pyramid “coincidence” related to the speed of light was discovered by John Charles Webb Jr. :
Precise latitude of the centre of the Grand Gallery (inside GP) is 29° 58′ 45.28″ N = 29.9792458° N
The speed of light in vacuum, usually denoted by c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics ( 299,792,458 metres /s ).
http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/the-great-pyramid-and-the-speed-of-light/
Pi the speed of light and the Great Pyramid Part 2 @3:50
Dr. Johan Oldenkamp
Dr. Johan Oldenkamp’s image above is illustrating the same relationship of the swastika to the squared circle, an idea which antedates Freemasonry, though this image can be found in a 1923 publication. (see below)
Note the dimensions of the Great Pyramid above – 440 cubits per side.
Or how about an 8×8 grid similar to a chessboard?
The Symbolism of Chess
by Titus Burckhardt
Ancient Gnosis and Chess Evolution
Mystical Numerology in Egypt and Mesopotamia
by Dr. Ricardo Calvo
Because π is a transcendental number, squaring the circle is not possible in a finite number of steps using the classical tools of compass and straightedge.
fig. 371 Freemason Tons Brunes sketch of Trelleborg Viking Fort in Denmark
Note the series of alternating SQUARES and CIRCLES
Tons Bruns book The Secrets of Ancient Geometry and its Use was published in 1967.
This was 2 years before Hamlet’s Mill by De Santillana & von Dechend was published which tried to illustrate that knowledge of precession of the equinoxes was universally accepted by our Neolithic ancestors.
Knowledge of the 25,920 year cycle was known perhaps 12,000 years ago, as others have suggested.
Hamlet’s Mill was a turning point allowing sciences to merge and compare notes.
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