Me tome el trabajo de copiar los mensajes del Forum en un archivo y aquí se los envío. Hoy no he visitado el sitio y no sé si me quedó algún mensaje sin leer.
Dejo a vuestra disposición el Forum con Ricardo Alarcón, Presidente de la Asamblea Nacional
Message: Con que proposito?
Posted by Nose Nada, September 11, 2002 - 12:52. Viewed 33 times.
Expliquen porque tienen dicho sitio y por que lo han anunciado en este dia importante, solemne para el mundo libre?
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Message: RE: Con que proposito?
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:40. Viewed 8 times.
We have been publicizing this site since September 2.
September 11 is a very important day for all the world and not just for part of it.
Cuba has condemned, from the very outset, the atrocious terrorist attacks suffered by the people of the United States on 9/11. It is not just a strong and absolute position officially taken by the government, but by all Cuban people as well.
Cuban solidarity on this issue is profound and sincere, since nobody can feel deeper the suffering caused on 9/11 than can Cubans, This is because Cuba has suffered more terrorist acts and for a longer period of time - 43 years - than anyone.
I lived in New York for fourteen and a half years and have been visiting the city for fully half my life. I feel great pain for the many.many friends I have there. I was in New York on the 11th September 1974 when the terrorist group Omega 7 was created. I take this date to also remember the 11th September 1973 in Chile and the coup d'etat which included the bombing of the presidential palace, planting terror in the population with the assassination of thousands of people.
Between 1974 and 1979, Omega 7 exploded bombs at the Cuban Misión in New York as web as at other Cuban offices in Maniatan. Noone was ever arrested for more than 60 acts of terrorism in which US citizens were killed and many other lives put at risk.
On the 11th September 1980 my friend Felix Garcia was assassinated in full daylight on Queens Bld. Thos who ordered his death walk the streets to this day planning new crimes.
On the 12th September 1998 five Cubans were arrested for the only "crime" of working to prevent and avoid these kinds of terrorists actions against Cuba that have also caused the deaths, as I said, of US citizens.
"All men are created equal" says the most famous doocument in US history. This means that everyone has the right to life and we should all fight together against those who seek to kill - wherever they may be, whoever they may be and for whatever motive they may have. Nobody should be imprisoned for seeking to save lives at the great risk of their own.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Cooperating With The United States
Posted by Peter Filderman, September 11, 2002 - 19:40. Viewed 18 times.
If Cuba Has Been The Victim Of So Many Terrorist Attacks, Why Is It Not Cooperating With The United States Since September 11th? Why Is It Not Part Of The Anti-Terrorist Coalition?
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Message: RE: Cooperating With The United States
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:38. Viewed 5 times.
Both before and after September 11th, Cuba has on numerous occasions attempted to cooperate with the United States by passing along precise information on terrorist groups that operate freely on US territory against Cuba, as well as information, when we have it, on plans made by others against the United States - specifically an assassination attempt planned against former President Reagan. Cuba has laws on its books that very severely punish terrorism in any form and against whoever without exception. We have ratified all international treaties on this and cooperate with the United Nations Security Council in the application of it's Resolution against terrorism. Conforming to this Resolution, the Cuban government proposed a bilateral cooperation agreement with Washington that the State Department has completely ignored.
Soon after September 11th, we submitted to the United States, upon request, all information that we had - although this was logically scarce, for unlike Washington, Cuba never had a relationship of any type with the Taliban regime nor with al-Qaeda and therefore there was little we could contribute. At the same time as immediately condemning the September 11th attacks, Cuba put its airports at the disposal of those who may need them and offered medical help to the United States. Fidel Castro called for a broad and real antiterrorist coalition to include all political, religious, intellectual and social forces. However, the Bush administration preferred to go to war - a position we consider erroneous and unjustified.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: How Long
Posted by Gary Solomon, September 11, 2002 - 19:43. Viewed 21 times.
For How Long Were These Five Men Spying For The Cuban Government?
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Message: RE: How Long
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:33. Viewed 13 times.
They never spied. The laws of the United States define such a crime as "to obtain or to try to obtain secret information from the government of the United States with the express purpose of causing damage to the United States." During the trial no evidence or witness was presented to indicate such an act was ever carried out or even attempted. On the contrary, several witness - including retired military personnel of high rank, as well as Government experts - testified they had not found any proof of espionage after examining the documentation presented by the Prosecution. It should be noted that two of the Cubans - René González and Fernando González - were not accused of anything that related to alledged espionage and the other three were not accused of spying but of "conspiracy to commit espionage."
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Información y terrorismo de Estado
Posted by Gennaro, September 12, 2002 - 03:59. Viewed 30 times.
Estimado Presidente,
hace dos días fue el 11 de septiembre. La prensa, europea e internacional ignoró completamente el evento. Si no hubiese sido por la salida del episodio dirigido por Ken Loach, en la película "11 de septiembre", y protagonizado por Vladimir Vega, ya preso político de la dictadura chilena, he encontrado trazas de un acontecimiento tan importante y dramático, y tan claro como ejemplo de terrorismo de estado, sólo en los diarios "Liberazione" de Italia, "Der Standard" de Austria y "The Independent" de Inglaterra.
Asistimos así una vez más a un intento de escamoteo de la memoria histórica de los pueblos. Los autores del sitio "antiterroristas.cu", recorren el camino opuesto, intentando la sistematización y la publicación de informaciones valiosísimas.
Se contribuye así a desvelar una vez más el fenómeno del terrorismo de estado, desde el Plan Cóndor al fracasado golpe contra la República Bolivariana, en todo su espanto.
Sin embargo, y aquí va mi pregunta, como ve usted, desde su cargo y desde Cuba, la lucha entre las grandes concentraciones multimediales todas homologadas al pensamiento único, y los medios antagonistas, ágiles pero que alcanzan cuotas mínimas de la información necesaria frente a la avalancha de las televisiones comerciales?
atentamente
Gennaro Carotenuto
periodista italiano
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Message: RE: Información y terrorismo de Estado
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:20. Viewed 13 times.
Alarcón: Agradezco sus comentarios.
Mi respuesta. Es una lucha difícil y compleja. Ya en 1969 Brzeziniski había anticipado el poder que adquirirían esos grandes medios en “manipular los sentimientos y controlar la razón” operando sobre individuos aislados. Impedir el aislamiento, vincularse, organizarse, es el gran desafío para los medios alternativos. Eso exige creatividad y el ser humano nunca renunciará a crear. “Que no haya soledad” como dice una bella canción de Silvio Rodríguez.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Update on Launch
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 10:49. Viewed 34 times.
For those of you online awaiting responses from me, I will be answering your questions shortly. Please stay on line for this forum.
Thank you
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Message: al Qaida
Posted by Albert A. Fox, Jr., September 13, 2002 - 11:23. Viewed 10 times.
Mr. President,
There are many rumors in Washington, DC and Florida that Cuba has secret training grounds for al Qaida terrorists. Could you please comment?
Albert A. Fox, Jr.
President, Alliance for Responsible Cuba Policy
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Message: RE: al Qaida
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:46. Viewed 5 times.
I have never heard such a ridiculous accusation before. Cuba does not have and never has had any connection with Al Qaida. It is a fact that it was the CIA that helped create and train them. By the way, the 9-11 hijackers were not trained here, but in the U.S.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Grupo de los cinco
Posted by Journalists in the Website Opening, September 13, 2002 - 11:25. Viewed 15 times.
De: Lucia Newman
Creen ustedes que es posible ganar lo que el presidente del American lawyers Guild llama " La batalla politica a favor del grupo delos cinco antes de que comience la segunda etapa de "batalla legal", o sea la apelacion?
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Message: RE: Grupo de los cinco
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:45. Viewed 12 times.
La batalla politica la ganaremos en la medida que se conozca la verdad del caso y confio que asi sera
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Extradition of fugitives
Posted by Albert A. Fox, Jr., September 13, 2002 - 11:27. Viewed 8 times.
Mr. President,
If the United States were prepared to turn over Cuban citizens living in the U.S. who committed crimes in Cuba (i.e. some individuals who have hijacked planes from Cuba and landed safely in the United States), would the Cuban government entertain signing an extradition treaty with the United States and returning American citizens who have fled U.S. justice and are now living in Cuba?
Albert A. Fox, Jr.
President, Alliance for Responsible Cuba Policy
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Message: RE: Extradition of fugitives
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 12:32. Viewed 8 times.
Cuba and the U.S. have had a bilateral extradition treaty that was ignored and killed de facto by the U.S. since Jan.1, 1959, before Fidel Castro descended from the Sierra Maestra mountains. The U.S,. began receiving with open arms each and every Batista fugitives. Since that time, the U.S. has never sent back any criminal from Cuba.
We have proposed specific draft bilateral cooperation agreements on terrorism, drug trafficking, and illegal migration that may cover that area. The U.S. has refused even to consider our proposals.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Fundación Nacional Cubano-Americana
Posted by Journalists in the Website Opening, September 13, 2002 - 11:05. Viewed 16 times.
De: Francisco Aruca
Dr Alarcón habitualmente el gobierno cubano ha acusado a la FNCA, o a personas vinculadas a esta, de estar comprometida en acciones terroristas contra Cuba. Después de la división de la FNCA, cuál es la situación?
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Message: RE: Fundación Nacional Cubano-Americana
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:48. Viewed 8 times.
Ninguna de las dos alas de la FNCA ha repudiado el terrorismo contra Cuba y en las dos hay conocidos terroristas que siguen activos. Ahora de hecho enfrentamos no sólo una, sino dos FNCAs, ambas igualmente comprometidas con el terrorismo. Lo que pasó con ese grupo fue un caso de partenogénesis.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Unjust Imprisonment
Posted by Ken Bradstreet, September 11, 2002 - 19:26. Viewed 12 times.
If These Five Individuals Were Proved To Have Carried Out The Espionage Charges Against Them, On What Does Their Government Base The Accusation Of Unjust Imprisonment?
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Message: RE: Unjust Imprisonment
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:53. Viewed 4 times.
Not one of them had the accusations of espionage proved against them – or anything resembling that. It is the first time in the history of the United States that someone has been condemned as a “spy” without witnesses or evidence or any kind of material proof brought against them. No “secret” documents taken, no recruits, nothing. Top military personnel and official experts called onto the witness stand testified that, on the contrary, the evidence presented indicated absolutely no espionage activity.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: For Your Information
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:53. Viewed 9 times.
For those of you awaiting my response to your questions, please be assured that I will answer each and every one put to me - even after the inauguration of this website is over.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Colombian peace process
Posted by Anya Landau, September 13, 2002 - 11:36. Viewed 9 times.
Does Cuba continue to support the peace process in Colombia? How does the FARC fit into the process?
Wayne Smith
Center for International Policy
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Message: RE: Colombian peace process
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:56. Viewed 5 times.
Yes, we continue to support the peace process in Colombia. We maintain contacts with the government of Colombia and are prepared to contribute to that goal, which of course depends on the Colombian participants involved. Our commitment to peace in Colombia has been recognized by the government of that country.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: Terrorismo y violencia.
Posted by Journalists in the Website Opening, September 13, 2002 - 11:08. Viewed 9 times.
De: Manuel Alberto Ramy. Radio Progreso Alternativa.
Presidente: generalmente el terrorismo se sirve de la violencia. ¿Es que toda violencia es terroritista?. ¿Cómo se deslinda la una del otro? ¿Existe al respecto alguna norma legal universalmente aceptada y obligatoria para todos los países?
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Message: RE: Terrorismo y violencia.
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 12:08. Viewed 7 times.
No existe aun una norma legal aceptada por todos. Cuba ha insistido en la ONU en lograr tal definición. Pero creo que hay un consenso básico sobre algunos aspectos terrorismo es el uso de la violencia o la amenaza de la violencia contra personas indefensas con el propósito de obtener determinados fines del terrorista. Las guerras por la independencia o la resistencia contra los nazis implicaron violencia, pero no pueden comprarse con hacer estallar una bomba en un teatro de Miami o con la barbaridad del 9-11 que sí que si son dudas acciones terroristas.
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Message: Solidaridad con los 5 Patriotas desde Nueva York
Posted by Ileana Luis, September 13, 2002 - 10:42. Viewed 16 times.
Buenos días compañero Ricardo Alarcón.
Es un placer y al mismo tiempo honor poder participar en este foro con ud.
Mi nombre es Ileana Luis y soy miembro de Casa de las Américas de NYC.
El objetivo de este mensaje es para dejarle saber a ud. y a Cuba entera que lejos de la Patria hay personas que la defienden. Que lucharemos para lograr que estos 5 valientes compañeros sean excarcelados y no pararemos hasta lograrlo como hicimos cuando Elián, y que mejor lugar este, como diría nuestro Apostol "en las entrañas del monstruo"
Estos 5 jóvenes nos dan fuerzas para seguir luchando y defendiendo nuestro terruño.
No importa que la gusanera se empeñe en seguir su sucia campaña contra estos defensores del terrorismo, pues cada vez más la opinión mundial conoce de este caso y se unen a la campaña por su liberación.
Ayer 12 de septiembre tuvimos un Forum en NY al unísono con muchos otros países. Es un trabajo duro, pero no imposible y seguiremos hasta lograr que se haga justicia.
No quisiera despedirme sin antes invitarlo a nuestra modesta página que hemos construído para enseñarle al mundo desde acá la verdadera realidad de Cuba y desmentir de esta manera la propaganda sucia contra nuestro Patria y nuestro heróico pueblo. Además tiene también un rincón para los Cinco Patriotas.
Esta es la página: www.cubasocialista.com Un abrazo revolucionario,
Ileana Luis
¡¡¡HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!!!
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Message: Legal Guarantee
Posted by Pedro León, September 11, 2002 - 19:32. Viewed 14 times.
I am Sidney, from Raleigh (North Carolina). Do You Believe That These Five Cubans Were Given Every Legal Guarantee During Their Trial?
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Message: RE: Legal Guarantee
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 12:07. Viewed 6 times.
The supposed “evidence” was classified as “secret”, enabling the government to edit, select and manipulate it at will. The Defense was denied the right to present a number of documents and witnesses, and those who did testify received threats quite openly in the courtroom. The jury was subjected to coercion in the very courthouse itself, some of whom complained to the judge. The Cubans were condemned and sentenced and their appeal centers on the argument that they were denied access to the supposed “evidence” over a period of approximately four years – “evidence” that is still being denied to this day.
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Message: The War On Terror
Posted by nicholas barry, September 10, 2002 - 23:08. Viewed 36 times.
Mr. Alarcon: The war on terror was first undertaken by Reagan, as a substitute for the cold war -- that is, as a vehicle for scaring the public and thus marshalling support for programs contrary to the public's interest -- foreign campaigns, war spending in general, surveillance, and so on. Now we are seeing a larger and more aggressive attempt to move in the same direction. Does the problem that we are the world's foremost source of attacks on civilians auger complications for carrying through this effort? Can the effort be sustained without, in fact, a shooting war?
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Message: RE: The War On Terror
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:05. Viewed 20 times.
Unfortunately, Cuba has a lot of experience in terms of having to defend itself and preventing terrorists acts organized from abroad against our country. During the past 43 years, we have managed to do this thanks to the participation of the people that supports a government whose policies respond to the interests and needs of the overwhelming majority. The war and the use of military force is not the solution to the problem of terrorism.
It is necessary and possible for governments, civil societies and people from all over the Planet who unanimously reject terrorism to unite in a common front. Terrorist groups, which account for a minor part of the population, would be totally isolated and would not receive support from anyone. But, in order to accomplish this, governments should be required to adopt effective measures against all forms of terrorism and against all terrorists regardless the causes and motivations they may argue to try to justify their actions.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: RE: The War On Terror
Posted by Nelson Valdes, September 13, 2002 - 11:37. Viewed 8 times.
Alarcon,
Buenas tardes desde New Mexico, Varias preguntas:
1) se ha dicho desde el 59 que Cuba oficialmente NUNCA pidio a las autoridades norteamericanas que enviaran de vuela a la isla a los criminalesm torturadores, etc que escapararon en los primeros dias del 59. Que sucedio en relacion con eso?
2) En Estados Unidos se desconoce la actividad de ciudadanos norteamericanos que auspiciaron terrorismo en la isla desde comienzos de 1959. Puede ofrecernos detalles sobre los primeros norteamericanos que participaron en actividades terroristas en Cuba?
3) Aunque Fidel Ccastro dio a conocer en un discurso sobre en nformacion proporcionada a personal del FBI que estuvo en Cuba sobre actividades terroristas de personas nacidas en Cuba y residentes en los Estados Unidos, la informacion proporcionada no es conocida por el publico. Es posible obtener esa informacion?
Gracias.
Nelson Valdes
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Message: RE: The War On Terror
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 12:40. Viewed 4 times.
Nelson, te puedo asegurar que los expedientes del MINREX con las notas diplomáticas pidiendo la devolución de los criminales y anexando pruebas, que incluían en algunos casos los fallos judiciales emitidos contra esas personas antes de 1959, son tan voluminosos que cubrirían la distancia de aquí a New México. A presentar esas notas dedicó buena parte de su actividad el Doctor Roberto Agramonte, primer canciller de Cuba en 1959.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament
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Message: heroe de qué
Posted by Camilo PF, September 10, 2002 - 22:24. Viewed 30 times.
Soy marielito, y estando ya en Miami un dia declararon el Dia del Heroe por el doctor Bosh, el que puso la bomba en el avipon cubano y lo e visto aqui dando declaraciones a la prensa y todo.... ?Usted sabía eso? Que le parece?
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Message: RE: heroe de qué
Posted by Ricardo Alarcón de Quesada, September 13, 2002 - 11:28. Viewed 9 times.
Sí lo sabía. Creo que es una vergüenza que Orlando Bosch que ordenó destruir en pleno vuelo un avión civil cubano pero que también cometió varios crímenes, con bombas y cohetes, en Estados Unidos, esté libre y que cinco cubanos estén presos allá precisamente por tratar de frustrar los crímenes de Bosch. La radio y la prensa escrita de Miami sigue publicando casi a diario declaraciones y anuncios de Bosch, y de otros como él, sobre las fechorías que ahora mismo están planeando. Ejemplo de ello son: la página publicada en el Miami Herald el 22 de agosto del pasado año en la que revindicó el uso del terrorismo contra Cuba, lo que reiteró recientemente, el 16 de junio de este año, en el Diario de las Américas, donde apareció un documento que previamente había leído en la radio de esa ciudad (Radio Mambí) el 6 de junio.
Ricardo Alarcon, President of the Cuban Parliament