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From: BARILOCHENSE6999  (Original message) Sent: 13/11/2012 03:27

The Ten Carts & Ten Lavers of Bronze

Section IV – Part 1 – Series:
Wonderful Numbers of Sacred Canon

by Doug Krieger

Note:  With author’s permission we present here fragments of his 47 page article.
If you want to see the entire article you can get PDF version of it at the end of this post.

The Molten Sea or Brazen Sea (“cast metal sea”) was a large basin in the Temple in Jerusalem made by Solomon for ablution of the priests. It is described in 1 Kings 7 and 2 Chronicles 4. It stood in the south-eastern corner of the inner court. According to the Bible it was five cubits high, ten cubits in diameter from brim to brim, and thirty cubits in circumference. It was placed on the backs of twelve oxen, standing with their faces outward. It was capable of containing two or three thousand baths of water. Though some think this impossible or unlikely based upon the stated dimensions, the fact that it was a wash basin which was too large to enter from above lends to the idea that water would likely have flowed from it down into a subcontainer beneath. (2 Chronicles 4). The water was originally supplied by the Gibeonites, but was afterwards brought by a conduit from the pools of Bethlehem. The molten sea was made of “brass” (copper), which Solomon had taken from the captured cities of Hadarezer, the king of Zobah (1 Chronicles 18). Ahaz later removed this laver from the oxen, and placed it on a stone pavement (2 Kings 16). It was destroyed by the Chaldeans (2 Kings 25).  — Wikipedia

 

Introduction

This was a fun article that got out of control– since it’s our typical one-sided bombast . . . the other side not having a clue as to who we are and we could care less that they do. After all, we still have a right to tell it as we see it…you decide (of course, the other side isn’t given much of a chance to respond…that’s how we like it . . . although we get these awful letters that we won’t show you!)
So, this is one of Jack Hook’s “everybody jumps into the action” dialogues – the good, the bad and the ugly and normally turns out to be the Christians in the lion’s den somewhere having it out … somehow, we survive…and in the morning the king peers into the cage and there we are quietly staring at the lions surrounding us, still! Lots of neat Daniels showed up in the den and then in came some lions – I’m here to talk to these lions – so here goes…

Before I comment on some of what they said, here they are few comments  (first Ivan and then Frosty for good measure):

“So if you’re closed minded on the real universe, but only open to Jesus as ‘God’, take me off your list. After 63 revolutions around the Sun, I am of this opinion. Furthermore, if you take ‘original sin’ out from Genesis, the whole Jewish/Christian theology comes crashing down. Then there is no need for ‘redemption’ or a Messiah, or any part of those writings written 3000 years ago by ignorant goatherds. Kings 7:23 (sic. I Kings 7:23) says Pi is =3? Really? Well, it ain’t, and God should know better. I am not born of some old goatherd’s definition of ‘original sin’. I am a free human being. The whole mystery of the Universe is before me, and I embrace it gladly, and freely. Cheers from a happy secularist. Antichrist? Stupid is as stupid does. What superstitious nonsense.

Best regards, Ivan.”

Now, Frosty:

Dear Jack,
We are all God in the flesh. You, me and Jesus. Jesus had nothing on us because we all enjoy God’s expression through us. I realize that I am a forward thinker ahead of my time. I don’t reject Jesus. He was a great teacher, but only at (sic. “a”) teacher. He was just a man no more or less than any of us. I am 65 and have lived almost twice as long and much more educated and I have traveled all over the planet. All those religions enjoy truths, but I don’t need to worship anyone including Jesus. I enjoy the same ability to establish newer understandings of the concept of God and as I said, “God is the emerging creative energy of the universe.” The Bible is a fine book for the Jews, but not for a Viking type like me. It’s not from my tribe. Why should I believe in some other tribe’s god? That’s like asking me to believe in Allah or the Dream World by the Australian Aborigines. I am a free thinker and way ahead of the mythical God concept of some dude up there in Heaven. God is simply an energy that manifests throughout the universe. Personally, I don’t think it has a brain, thoughts or conscience. It’s just an energy that creates and destroys with equal abandon. When the human race is gone when this planet ceases to exist, God and the universe won’t burp at our passing out of existence. So what’s the big deal? Just enjoy your life while you’re here and when you’re not, it’s over. I’m having a great time during my time.

Blessings and joy, Frosty

And Frosty isn’t finished:

Isn’t it time to let that poor guy Jesus alone? He lived, he died and he hasn’t been heard from since. He gave his 33 years and just let him rest in peace. Good grief, why try to rebirth him into this crazy world? He would be overwhelmed. He was a poor, illiterate carpenter for heaven sakes. He never traveled more than 50 miles from his home in the desert. He espoused simple truths that anyone and many have also espoused. He didn’t have the only patent on spiritual truths. Let’s move toward a new spiritual understanding that humans are responsible for their own actions and that they cannot rely on mythical characters or real characters that have been made into perfect myths. The major religions are all desert religions by some very backward and illiterate tribes. For instance, I am from Sweden. I should bow down to Thor as my god because that’s my tribe. Instead, I think for myself and I stand as a beacon of spiritual energy for my own life. Thor had his time and I’ve got mine.
Today, we know more, we understand more and we possess knowledge far beyond the simple understandings of the people who created those religions. They simply no longer apply. Look at the misery and killings by the Koran, Bible and other religions. Was it worth it to storm the walls of Jericho and kill all those people just because the Christians could do it with bigger fire power?
How about moving from “Fearing God” to appreciating the “creative energy of the universe” that expresses through each of us? It’s time to move beyond fear based religions and get on to happy religions that don’t condemn everyone to hell if they make a mistake or give somebody like the Pope all the power to judge the rest of us.
Let’s get (sic, just?) enjoy ourselves on this planet and get on with living. God is in a campfire, a hummingbird and a whale. God expresses through each of us as he expressed through Jesus. No guilt, no condemnation and no hellfire and damnation.

Let’s get on with the joys of living.
 

Now, wasn’t that uplifting? Get a cup and let’s discuss this a little – like a whole lot! And, Jack, you should know by now that I’m not one to run from a good fire fight … this always gets me goin’ – besides, I’ve had more revolutions around the Sun than either one of these two guys.  One would think 63 revolutions (or 65 for Frosty) would change Ivan’s opinion on the absolute incredibly mathematical genius of our well-designed solar system (so revealed in the dimensions of the New Jerusalem (later on I’ll explain))—i.e., I would that Ivan do the math and would be so persuaded that Someone is somehow behind all of this) – then again, he’s right regarding original sin and the Judeo-Christian belief system, if you would, demand for Deliverance – i.e., the Messiah – outstanding observation, here. It’s that BLOODY CROSS of yours, Jack Hook, that’s such a stumbling block to folks out there – why don’t you soften the message a bit, after all, can’t we all just get along?

God and His Goat Herders

But since Ivan the Terrible has taken on God Himself – and God needs no defense – let’s examine some of these goat-herd remarks who haven’t figured out how to use Pi (as in “pi” = 22/7 = 3.142857 or 3.141592654 or any number of fractional possibilities)…and God should not have confused these simpletons with dubious formula sending them off in wrong directions; at least those oxen underneath that Bronze (i.e., Copper) Basin are facing the right direction…seems the goat herders got that one right (“And all their (oxen) back parts pointed inward” I Kings 7:25).

Let’s look at the verse in question which Ivan sites – along with some embellishments which Ivan left out – notwithstanding how objective he was in this matter of God’s ignorance:

“And he made the Sea of cast bronze, ten cubits from one brim to the other; it was completely round. Its height was five cubits, and a line of thirty cubits measured its circumference” (I Kings 7:23)

Left out of Ivan’s condescending calculations was this complimentary verse:

“It (the bronze basin) was a handbreadth thick…” (I Kings 7:26a…enough for now, there’s more on this verse, but not at this time.)

Now, Ivan’s contention is this, that something which is “completely round” – although a “golden ellipse” is completely round but not a perfect circle by no meansbut does have 360°, if you would, to its circumference. The diameter of a perfect circle is not dissimilar at any two polar opposites on the circle – not so with the golden ellipse…just to clear the air here a bit in thinking that all circumferences are equal insofar as diameters concern throughout their circumference – they are not – all have 360° but all have not the same diameter insofar as an ellipse vs. a perfect circular orbit, if you would.

In Ivan’s brain he sees a problem – i.e., in I Kings 7:23 the proportions (regardless of what a “cubit” may equal) are not sound, they do not compute with a perfect circle’s measurements; to wit:  The height – which we take to mean its depth (i.e. the depth of the basin), is 5 cubits; its “brim to the other brim” measured 10 cubits; and, its circumference measured 30 cubits.

 


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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:28

In a perfect circle its circumference is determined by this simple formula: C = Pi x d or Circumference = 3.142857 (7/22 or other fraction) multiplied by its diameter. Therefore: 30 Cubits (circumference) = 3.142857 x 10 (pi  x diameter of 10 cubits)?

But, we have a problem, which Ivan clearly noticed:
3.142857 x 10 = 31.42857 cubits, not 30.00000; therefore, we are skewed a bit here – i.e., 1.42857 cubits off – in Ivan’s brain we should have gotten an obvious circumference of 31.42857 since the diameter is 10 – how dumb of God to lead us goat-herders astray like this and give us a 30 instead of a 31.42857 circumference. So – God is off or some ignoramus goat-herded did the math and goofed up the Copper Basin’s measurements.

Well, besides assuming that all circumferences have similar diameter ratios so designed – NOT! – we have another issue in our problem:
Apparently, this whole basin (i.e., “the Sea of cast bronze”) was “a handbreadth thick” which could account for a lesser interior. So, it all depends on the length of both the “cubit” and the “handbreadth” – both measurements can affect our conclusions to this intractable problem, so it would appear.

Actually, the problem is simply solved here*, even though both the Sacred Cubit measurement and the handbreadth is a bit off, the proportions appear fairly accurate – all having to do with the relative thickness of the basin and the “brim to brim” circumference juxtaposed to the basin’s diameter, assuming it is a perfect circle.

*Since the outside diameter of the sea is 10 cubits, what is the inside diameter?
inside diameter = circumference / pi = 30 / 3.1415927 = 9.5493 cubits
And, since the inside circumference is 30 cubits, what is the outside circumference?
outside circumference = diameter x pi = 10 x 3.1415927 = 31.4159 cubits.

Certainly, one could contend that “brim to brim” meant the interior only, or was it exterior as well? – So, is it the interior circumference or the exterior circumference; after all, being filled to the brim is from the inside, not from the outside? Oh, well, trivial considerations here. Ancient “handbreadths” range from 3” to 3 ½ inches – look it up on Wikipedia.

How’s about the “cubit” – well, just so happens that extensive research has been done by such ardent believers (i.e., a fellow goat-herder) like Sir Isaac Newton who surmised, after somewhat exhaustive investigation, that the biblical (Hebrew) cubit measured 25.02” (improved upon by John Taylor and Sir Flinders Petrie (another goat-herder) – forgive the Wikipedia balderdash relative to their deprecation of Pyramidology – another reason to use Encyclopedia Britannica…you get what you pay for) and is thoroughly discussed in our video series THE PURPOSES OF GOD (a shameless plug here). Others, including ourselves, have extended that cubit via the fact its “number” is 252 to be 2.1 linear feet or 25.20” (Imperial inches).

That calculation of 25.20” is further substantiated in that there are 360° in which the Earth rotates around the Sun each “day” – therefore, SEVEN such days constitute a week and 7 x 360° = 2520° or, if you would, that’s how we get our “Sacred Cubit” of 25.20” – a measurement used throughout Holy Writ and assiduously preserved by another group of dumb goat herders during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I who came up with the Nautical and Statute Mile and that whole archaic system of ill-repute known as the “Imperial System of Metrology.” [ Only we dumb Americans have not discovered how to do Trig with metrics; and, alas, I still think my son is 6’4” - buy my petrol in gallons – and weigh myself in pounds – and drive so many miles to Los Angeles and haven’t seen a km sign in years – how dumb is that? ]

So, now let’s do our calculations using the measurement of the Sacred Cubit (25:20”) – for, after all, we’re talking about proportional measurements here; therefore, we’re not going to trip over Ivan’s brilliant observation:

Measurements of the Copper/Bronze Basin

Diameter (regardless where polar measurements extend – inside or outside) =10 Cubits =10 x 25.20” = 252”
Circumference (whether “Golden Elliptical” or “Perfect Circle”) =30 Cubits = 30 x 25.20” = 756”
Height (or depth) 5 Cubits = 5 x 25.20 = 126”

Now, using these measurements, and before we consider their profundities – for they come under the influence of what we have termed the “Sacred Cubit” of measurement – let’s extrapolate them under ? (Pi @ 3.142857 or 22/7) to determine what Ivan’s circumference should have been: C = 3.142857 x 252” (diameter based on Sacred Cubit) = 791.9982 or 792”
Instantly, we see that 792” does not equal 756” – so, interestingly enough, we are off some 36” or 1 Imperial Yard. Which is of some interest in that there are 360° in any given circumference/circle; therefore, and oddly enough, we discover that 36” is a “fractal” of 360 or 1/10th of 360. And, if we use 3” as the ancient measurement for a handbreadth x 2 (sides) = 6”; therefore, 36” – 6” = 30” – so, we have some interesting numbers here: 36” (off of Ivan’s calculation if we use the Sacred Cubit to measure these proportions) and 6” from the 36” giving us 30” – therefore: 36” – 30” – 6” and 756” vs. 792”.

Incidentally, and I don’t mean to embarrass – however, “manipulating ?” has become one of my favorite pastimes:
If we approximate (using just the first 10 digits) Pi as 3.1415926530119026040


Reply  Message 3 of 12 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:28

Using the rational number/fraction: 103993 / 33102 = 3.1415926530119026040 (the first 12 digits which “directly impact” the product omitting the first “1” in that 3 x 1 = 3 – but all additional “1’s” and, of course, zeroes:

  1. 3 x 1 = 3 ::: Triune God (3 sets of 72 = 216 The Name of God)
  2. 3 x 1 x 4 = 12 ::: The pervasive “number” of the New Jerusalem “12”
  3. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 = 60 ::: “6” the Creation Day of “man” and 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour.
  4. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 = 540 ::: 540 = 5040 Plato’s Optimal Number / 2 = 2520 = the Sacred Cubit of 25.20”
  5. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 = 1080 ::: 1080 = “18” of the New Jerusalem Standard & Radius of Earth’s Moon in Mi.
  6. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 = 6480 ::: 6480 = “18” of the New Jerusalem Standard or 6 + 4 + 8 = 18
  7.  3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 = 32400 ::: 32400 x 2 = 64,800 = “18” New Jerusalem Standard
  8. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 x 3 = 97200 ::: 97200 = “18” of the New Jerusalem Standard or 9 + 7 + 2 = 18 (Please Note: 97200 is the perimeter of the cubed 12 edges of the Great Pyramid of Giza (GPG) at 9,720 Linear Feet in that its base side is 756’ – and, by the way, the elevation of the GPG is 480’ x 12” = 5760” = 5 + 7 + 6 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard of Measurement. Now, with the first eight “impactful digits” of our 3.1415926530119026040 Pi we will do the next four “impactful digits” which advance the product:
  9. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 9 = 874800 = “27” or 8 x 7 x 4 x 8 = 1792 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard or 1 + 7 + 9 + 2 = 18 or 8 + 7 + 4 + 8 = “27” and “27” is the full revelation of Messiah in the 27 volumes of the Christian Sacred Canon.
  10. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 9 x 2 = 1749600 = “27” (1 + 7 + 4 + 9 + 6 = 27) or the Full Revelation of the Messiah in the 27 Volumes of the Christian Sacred Canon or 1 x 7 x 4 x 9 x 6 =1512 = 2 Sides of the GPG at 1512’ and x 6 = 9072 which is the GPG Cubed (12 edges) to reflect the New Jerusalem; therefore, the 1512 reflects the “18” of the New Jerusalem Standard.
  11. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 9 x 2 x 6 = 10497600 = “27” (1 + 4 + 9 + 7 + 6 = 27) or the Full Revelation of the Messiah in the 27 Volumes of the Christian Sacred Canon or 1 x 4 x 9 x 7 x 6 = 1512 = 2 Sides of the GPG at 1512’ and x 6 = 9072 which is the GPG Cubed (12 edges) to reflect the New Jerusalem; therefore, the 1512 reflects the “18” of the New Jerusalem Standard.
  12. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 4 = 41990400 = “27” (4 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 4 = 27) or the Full Revelation of the Messiah in the 27 Volumes of the Christian Sacred Canon or 1 x 4 x 9 x 7 x 6 = 1512 = 2 Sides of the GPG at 1512’ and x 6 = 9072 which is the GPG Cubed (12 edges) to reflect the New Jerusalem; therefore, the 1512 reflects the “18” of the New Jerusalem Standard. (Note: The last for number sets have products which when multiplied by themselves as individual digits result in “1512” (consecutively). “1512” is Gematria in Greek for Apocalypsis; therefore, the closer we come to the Millenarian Rule and Reign of Messiah, the Triune God (3) warns and cautions as to prepare for the “End of Days” – thus, the Great Pyramid of Giza has a most prescient message of Apocalypsis and the dawning of a New Day of World Peace, ruled by the Prince of Peace!

The grand total of all the products in the Pi series of 12 impactful digits (eliminating the “1’s” and, of course, zero) we arrive at: 55,250,175 = 5 + 5 + 2 + 5 + 1 + 7 + 5 = 30 and “30” is the Number of Messiah at the commencement of ministry – also, the age to commence the Levitical Priesthood and Joseph’s Age upon ascendancy to Pharaoh’s right hand and King David’s age upon ascension to the Throne of Israel.

Thus, our little “Pi” (Notice my graphic shaped as a little pie) and notice how when using the rational numbers/fraction of 103993 / 33102 (not 22/7 – this 103993/33102 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              103993/33102      end_of_the_skype_highlighting is far more accurate if you want to go overboard) we did get some rare numerations…  3.1415926530119026040 as “Pi”:

So you see, Ivan, these dumb goat herders are not so dumb after all…let me explain:

These Israelites – that disgusting tribal folk of yore – knew precisely what they were recording – that it was exceedingly accurate in every way to convey a Divine Message through goat herders like them – though you may not consider yourself of this level of intelligence, since you have apparently achieved a somewhat blissful state of mental consciousness on your road to oblivion, along with your buddy Frosty, whose dust to dust ends it there.

Firstly – the “bronze basin” (and we don’t have time for anything here but the most basic information) was used for “ritual cleansing” and for “offerings” wherein both priests and sacrifices were washed – and if you didn’t take a “bath” – whoops, sorry about that!

 Secondly, this was a huge basin by any stretch of the imagination – being some 66’ in at least one circumference – incidentally, another interesting “number” (i.e., “66”) in this mix of calculations (using the 792” circumference measurement based off of Ivan’s 10 cubits (diameter) x 25.20” (Sacred Cubit) = 252” x 3.142857 = 791.999964 or 792 (rounding up)) and 792” / 12” = 66’ Circumference of the Basin).

“Biblical Numerology” has, in the main, been discarded as naught but a form of “Gnostic Christianity” – an oxymoronic statement if there ever were one. Gnosticism was sentenced by Church authorities to the trash bin of deviant paganism and that “Thor bunch” out there who persistently mess with secret numerologies from Zodiac to Stonehenge and should be forthrightly dismissed as deviant mysticism more akin to the theater of the absurd along with the History Channel.

Notwithstanding, this “caveat” may I suggest that the superabundance of number in Holy Writ is there for a profound purpose – i.e., for us to examine, discover the fact (and I speak here to those having “tasted of the Life to come” – excuse us Ivan, et al) – for “It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter” (Proverbs 25:2).

Therefore, to determine the secrets of the Word of God, we are doing quite the royal thing here and a most honorable work indeed! Remember this, blood-bought, blood-washed saints: “The works of the LORD are great; sought out of all them that have pleasure therein” (Psalm 111:2).

Now, the above differentiates from probing around trying to figure out what the Almighty does not wish for us to dabble in for “The secret things belong unto the LORD our God; but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children forever” (Deuteronomy 29:29).

So, you see, we do have every divine privilege as “kings” (a wholly justifiable inflation, and one, I am sure, that Frosty and Ivan, may someday find refreshing, given their overweening sense of propriety which now surrounds their egos – lol) to delve into that which has been revealed; to wit: let’s check out these numbers and see if there be anything therein….

First of all – could we say that 792 bear some immediate reflection and/or that the simplicity of the 756 does as well (if we take either the ? straight circumference of the 30 plain cubit circumference)? And, where, pray tell, does “66” fit into all this? Also, how do these “number sets” of 252” (10 cubit diameter) and the 126” (5 cubit height) fit into this “numeric mystery?”


Reply  Message 4 of 12 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:29

O.K. – let’s roll…

Measurements of the New Jerusalem

Revelation 21:16-17 state:

“The city (i.e., the Holy City, New Jerusalem – Paradise) is laid out as a square; its length is as great as its breadth. And he measured the city with the reed: twelve thousand furlongs. Its length, breadth, and height are equal. Then he measured its wall: one hundred and forty-four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is of an angel.”

That’s it – outside of 12 Gates, 12 Pearls, 12 Foundations – that’s that – nothing else is given and, quite frankly, that’s all that we need to be revealed – aside from a throne and a river and 12 manner of fruit, etc. – but architecturally, that’s it.

So let’s do the math:

One furlong (look it up) is equal to 660’ Imperial Feet (now I like this classy “Imperial” stuff because it sounds so “divinely presumptuous” for some reason).

Now, let’s multiply the number of furlongs so mentioned in this obviously “cubed” affair (three-dimensional cube, four-square):
12,000 (furlongs) x 660’ = 7,920,000 Linear Feet (whoops, behold the 792 “fractal” has shown up in a most delightful manner, hasn’t it? I’m sure Ivan is pleased. Of course, this is just a quirky thingy…but, as you will see, there’s so many of them that it would appear that a “divine conspiracy” is afoot here.

But, we now must determine the Imperial Miles from this 7,920,000 Linear Imperial Ft. measurement – so, we divide 7,920,000’ / 5280’ (Imperial feet in an imperial mile – all so delightfully “imperial” and this is also called a Statute Mile – another grand invention of the British…quite the “tribe” I might add)…this gives us on one of the 12 edges of this cube a total of 1,500 Imperial Miles x 12 Edges (all cubes have 12 edges) = 18,000 Imperial Miles…and as we shall see “18” is the Standard Bearer Measurement of the New Jerusalem and shows up all over the place (as in 792 = “18” and by the way, 756 = “18” and 5280’ = “18”) because this measurement encapsulates the “extent” of the New Jerusalem – her entirety.

Also, since we’re dealing with 12,000 furlongs (and excuse my apparent digression here from the bronze basin; however, this is critical to our overall understanding of “divine math” – if I can sound so hideously presumptuous compared to Thor and tribe)…let’s find the “square area” of this dimension as:
12,000 x 12,000 (two edges gives us a plane surface measurement of one plane side) = 144,000,000 sq. furlongs. O.K. – let’s bank the 144; because it sounds an awful lot like 144 cubits was the wall measurement of the City (of course, we’re left adrift in “missing revelation” in that we’re not told whether the wall was that high, long, or wide – just 144 cubits – live with it!)…but let’s take the Linear Feet on one edge of the New Jerusalem:
7,920,000’ x 7,920,000’ = 62,726,400,000,000 sq. feet (hey, now we’re talking national debt here – $62 Trillion + and counting! – Come on Frosty…at least we can agree on that one (Frosty’s apparently a talk show host somewhere.).

Now, let’s divide 62,726,400,000,000 by another New Jerusalem Standard number known as the number of feet in an acre or 43,560 (which also equals “18” as in 4 + 3 + 5 + 6 = 18 – oh, and thanks again to the goat herders of Britain are we given this little determination) – so:
62,726,400,000,000 / 43,560 = 1,440,000,000 acres – grief – we’ve come up with that 144 again…so it goes (so accidental, right?).

The Sun Reflects the Dimensions and “Composite Bride” of the New Jerusalem

Now, that’s but one side – therefore, on six sides of our New Jerusalem cube we find this:
1,440,000,000 x 6 = 8,640,000,000 acres – another interesting figure. Why? Because the “Sun of Righteousness” (Malachi 4:2) seems to have shown up in the measurement of the New Jerusalem – at least the part you can see on the surface. For, the Diameter of Earth’s Sun is 864,000 Miles (look it up) and, wouldn’t you know it 8 + 6 + 4 = 18 again!

But, students, we must check our work:
864,000 x 5280’ = 4,540,800,000’ or, wouldn’t you know it, again, “18” (in that 4 + 5 + 4 + 8 = “18”)…and the “divine conspiracy” continues….

Well, since we’re at the Sun, let’s cube it as well and see what we get, who knows, might be the New Jerusalem again:
864,000 miles x 12 (edges of a cube) = 10,368,000 Linear Miles = “18” (1 + 3 + 6 + 8 = 18) – just keeps happening.

By dropping zeroes we can determine that “24” (wherein “24” is highly representative of Israel and the Church as the only two proper nouns within the Dimensions of Paradise: 12 Gates bear the Names of the 12 Patriarchs/Tribes of Israel; and 12 Foundations bear the Names of the 12 Apostles/Church – taken from the 1,440,000,000 acre figure or one of six flat sides of the New Jerusalem or 144 or 12 x 12 = 144).

Therefore:
45408 x 45408 (Cubing the Sun and using its diameter in feet to discover another reflection of the New Jerusalem as the “Composite Bride” of Messiah) = 2061886464 / 4356 (acres) = 473344 x 6 (six-sided cube) = 2840064 = 2 + 8 + 4 + 6 + 4 = “24” as noted in the above paragraph is “Israel and the Church” within the “Composite Bride” as the New Jerusalem.


Reply  Message 5 of 12 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:29

But, wait a Wall Street minute here (pun intended, Frosty will like that), we haven’t figured out how many Imperial Inches in our original 7,920,000’ – therefore: 7,920,000’ x 12” = 95,040,000” (one edge) or 7,920,000’ x 12 Edges = 95,040,000’

So what? Big what…that’s what. As it turns out 95,040,000” or Feet happens to be a fractal of the distance between the Earth and its Sun at “apogee” (furthest distance from Earth to Sun in their orbits – orbits which vary at 95,040,000 miles).

Incidentally, 95,040,000 = “18” again, and again, and again – is the Designer trying to tell us something? Just might be…if you have an “ear to hear.”

But let’s get ridiculous here:

95,040,000 Imperial Miles between the Earth and the Sun at apogee (or maximum) x 5,280 Imperial Feet in an Imperial Mile = 501,811,200,000 Imperial Feet = 5 + 1 + 8 + 1 + 1 + 2 = “18” (stop talkin’ to me!), Let’s get back to Earth: 12,000 x 12,000 x 12,000 (all furlongs – for one edge of the New Jerusalem is equal to 12,000 furlongs) = 1728 Cubic furlongs (dropping off the zeroes) giving us, again 1 + 7 + 2 + 8 = “18” . . . so is the “volume” or “capacity” of the New Jerusalem.

And…792 (dropping zero) x 792 x 792 = 496,793,088 = “54” (adding the sum of these as “number”) and 5040 happens to be the “Optimal Number” of Plato (another country boy) and, when divided by two as in 5040 / 2 = 2520 the measurement of the Sacred Cubit…however, multiplying the New Jerusalem’s 6-sided cube by the square footage of one of its sides by 6 x 496,793,088 = 2,980,758,528 sq. feet which “in number” is equal to “36” (2 + 9 + 8 + 7 + 5 + 8 + 5 + 2 + 8 = 36) and “36” is the fractal of 360° which is the circle, the Eternal God without Beginning or Ending. Likewise, 2,980,758,528 / 43,560 (sq. ft. in 1 acre = 68,428.8 acres or “36” (6 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 8 + 8 = 36); finally, 68,428.8 acres divided by the Wall of the New Jerusalem (144 cubits) = 68,428.8 / 144 = 475.2 or 4 + 7 + 5 + 2 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard…but that’s another discussion.
Now…having that as a backdrop…let’s look at our bronze basin again:

The Great Pyramid of Giza and the 30 Cubit Circumference of the Sea of Cast Bronze

Actually – I really like Ivan’s 792 inch circumference – it really attests to the New Jerusalem – you know, that Paradise which Ivan thinks is a figment of our herder mentality. But let’s stick with the Word (as in capital “W” its herder hype) – so, we’re back to 30 cubits as its circumference which gives us: 30 cubits x 25.20” = 756’

Of course, I don’t expect Ivan, nor for that matter Frosty, to know that the base side of the Great Pyramid of Giza is 756’ and is a clear picture (which many of us herders confirm) to be “an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the LORD at its border – i.e., Giza” (past, present and future – Isaiah 19:19).

By the way, Sir. W.F. Flinders Petrie’s metrology confirms the 756’. But, then again, his metrology is suspect in that he too was one of those evangelical goat herders, no less of British vintage.

Of course, the Hebrews, having their own Egyptian experience, were perhaps prone to producing measurements of this nature…given their familiarity with the Great Pyramid of Giza (GPG). If so, perhaps the GPG reflects something of the New Jerusalem—just as the marvelous measurements of the Sacred Basin do?

Let’s see:
756’ x 12” = 9072” (another “18” as in 9 + 7 + 2 = 18).
756’ x 4 (perimeter of the GPG) = 3024’ x 12” = 36,288” (which results in “27” which, interestingly enough, are the number of books in the Christian Sacred Canon revealing Jesus as Messiah)
If we “cubed” the GPG using its base as its diameter, we would have:
3024’ x 3 (for we already have in 3024’ from its 4 edges and there are 12 to a cube) = 9072 Linear Feet to a Cubed GPG (12 edges) –
Now, if we take 9072’ x 12” we have a most unusual set of “numbers” = 108,864 – herein are two sets:
108 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard and 864 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard . . .

The Moon and the Nautical Mile of 21,600

…but also 1080 is the Radius of Earth’s Moon (a moon which bears 2160 Miles as its diameter) and, if you noticed the 864 is the fractal of our Sun’s 864,000 Miles; therefore, Earth’s Moon and Sun are involved in the 756” of the GPG and ipso facto of the circumference of the Sea of Cast Bronze (30 cubits x 25.20” = 756” / 12” = 63’). Now, a bit of a digression here; however, Ivan should be delighted at this discovery, for 63 trips around the Sun is a “fractal” of 63’!

The 756” (63’) or the 792” (66’) are, in essence, a full reflection of the “expression” of the measurements of the New Jerusalem; furthermore, the 66’ to which we have previously alluded bears witness to the 660’ or 1 furlong, again, of the New Jerusalem’s measurements.

Incidentally, the fact that God Almighty has a BRAIN and is in point of fact, THE Brain of Brains – knowing precisely what His design ultimately entails – i.e., the New Jerusalem, wherein both of His Divine Witnesses – Israel and the Church – are so clearly defined within its structure: 12 Gates bear the Names of the 12 Tribes of Israel (the patriarchs) and the 12 Apostles of the Lamb (the Church) constitute her foundations – a composite Bride – for God Almighty is not a Deist, nor a Theist, He is Who He is – there is no comparison – by Him were all things created whether in heaven or on earth, visible and invisible.
Also the 144 cubit wall (Revelation 21:17) of the New Jerusalem bears witness as follows:
144 x 25.20” = 3,628.8” which is a “fractal” of the perimeter of the GPG at its base (i.e., 3024’ x 12” = 36,288”) = another happenstance…just thought you should know – those dumb herders who wrote that Book…what do they know?


Reply  Message 6 of 12 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:30

Now, let’s look at the Diameter of the Sacred Basin’s calculations: 10 Cubits or 25.20” x 10 = 252” / 12” = 21 Linear Feet
…whereas the circumference of 30 cubits x 25.20 = 756” / 12” = 63’
…whereas the height is 5 cubits x 25.20 = 126” / 12” = 10.5’

The diameter of 252” gives us an immediate amplification of the Sacred Cubit itself and it also attests to the seven days of a week in that 360° x 7 of Earth’s Daily Rotations = 2520° and draws attention to a future apocalyptic happening during the final Week of Daniel’s 70th Week in which there are 2,520 Days as in One Week or 360-prophetic days in a year x 7 years = 2,520 Days.

We are, in essence, PEERING INTO a Sacred Basin with profound apocalyptic meaning and, most assuredly, these measurements demand that the “washing of water in the Word” take prominence in unveiling the revealed secrets of the Almighty. Furthermore, they inexorably lead to the measurements of the New Jerusalem and those measurements which attest to the design of our Solar System – particularly, our Earth, Moon and Sun, all inter-related, and all attesting to the ultimate conclusion: The New Jerusalem – the Dimensions of Paradise.

If we take the breadth (10 cubits) the depth/height (5 cubits) and the “length” (i.e., the circumference or, if you would, the perimeter of this basin, 30 cubits – so described) – holding off to the side the thickness of the basin (i.e., handbreadth) we arrive at three measurements of Divine Significance.

Let alone the 12 oxen which face three each to the four corners of the earth – 3 to each side thereof: “three looking toward the north, three looking toward the west, three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east…the Sea was set upon them, and all their back parts pointed inward” (I Kings 7:25)…for this basin “serves” the entire earth…and the 2,000 “baths” (around 18,000 gallons of water). Determining the number of American/British gallons in one “Hebrew Bath” is no small fete. We have landed on the following research as altogether credible:   http://bibleencyclopedia.com/isbe.htm

BATH

(bath): A liquid measure equal to about 9 gallons, English measure. It seems to have been regarded as a standard for liquid measures (Ezekiel 45:10), as in the case of the molten sea and the lavers in Solomon’s temple (1 Kings 7:26, 38), and for measuring oil and wine (2 Chronicles 2:10 Ezra 7:22 Isaiah 5:10 Ezekiel 45:14). Its relation to the homer is given in Ezekiel 45:11, 14.

That said, at 2,000 baths @ 9 gallons per bath x 2,000 baths = 18,000 gallons of water. Obviously, and immediately, the “18” of the New Jerusalem Standard is seen in the capacity of the Sea of Cast Bronze and is a “perfect fractal” to the 18,000 miles of the 12 edges of the New Jerusalem.

Also, Roy Reinhold (Prophecy Truths) goes into extensive detail to prove that a Hebrew Bath is equal to 4.5 gallons – which does not alter the significance of the “18” at all in that 4.5 “Reinhold Gallons” x 40 Hebrew Baths = 180 gallons (in measuring the number of gallons in the 40-bath capacity found in each of the 10 Lavers aside from the Sea of Cast Bronze. Furthermore, the Basin’s capacity amplifies the work of the Eternal God in that 2 (as in 2,000 baths of the Sea of Cast Bronze) x 18 (as in 18,000 gallons) = 36 as in the 360° of a circle, without beginning or ending.

The New Jerusalem’s primary measurement is immediately recognizable by multiplying the “three dimensions” of the Sacred Basin’s “cubit measurements” – to wit:
10 (brim to brim) x 5 (height) x 30 (circumference) = 1,500 cubits = the precise 1,500 Edge of the New Jerusalem in miles; however, this is also in cubits; therefore, the full dimension of the basin becomes immediately reflective of the exterior of the New Jerusalem as follows:
1,500 cubits x 25.20” (Sacred Cubit Measurement) = 37,800” or its “straight volume” or simple addition of its product numbers together = 3 + 7 + 8 = “18” the New Jerusalem Standard itself! We instantly have both the “edge” of the New Jerusalem (1,500 miles) and the entire measurement of the Sacred Basin as “18” which mirrors the 18,000 miles of the New Jerusalem or 15 + 18 = 33…and this “33” which you see is wholly given over to Messiah’s Prime Number for Jesus was 33 years of age when He completed His earthly ministry.

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 Eschatological Considerations of the Sacred Basin

Eschatological considerations in the Sacred Basin’s measurements are clearly seen as reflected in the Seventieth Week of Daniel’s prophecy (Daniel 9:24-27):
126 = 1260 = the latter half of Daniel’s 70th Week or 1,260 days or 42 months or 3.5 days or 3.5 years or “time, times and half a time” – this is the period of Great Tribulation and the “reign of the Beast” and the “treading down of the Holy City for 42 months” (Revelation 11); also, 126(0) is 1/2 of 252 or 2520 or two sets of 1260 = 2520…is is the height of the Sacred Basin: 126.

252 or 2520 = the entire 70th Week of Daniel’s prophecy, the final week of human history prior to the coming of Messiah, the King. The first half of the 70th Week or 1,260 days will be the time that the Two Witnesses shall prophesy: “And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth” (Revelation 11:3). This is “both” the “height” and the “depth” of the Seventieth Week – 1260 + 1260 = 2520.

However, there are 75 days succeeding the 2520 days (Daniel 12:11-12) for we read of the final day of desolation being 1,290 (Daniel 12:11) or 30 days beyond the 2520 days of the Week or “unto” the 2550th day. This “30” is seen in the “30 cubits” of the Sacred Basin’s circumference. This “30” is clearly the time of the “Wrath of the Lamb” mentioned in the Revelation poured out upon the earthlings who have taken the Mark of the Beast, the False Prophet (Second Beast) and the Beast himself. The Lamb of God declared in John 1:29, 36 on the Day of Atonement is the same Lamb Whose wrath on that day shall be poured out.

“Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age” (Luke 3:23). The Levitical priest commenced ministry at 30 years of age (Numbers 4:1-3); thus, the 30 cubit circumference of the Levites was greeted by their age of ministry and bore witness to the coming Messiah, the Lamb of God – Whose “latter days” shall witness the “Wrath of the Lamb” (Revelation 6:16)…be it known that the earth is not judged without mercy for it is the Lamb of God Who is worthy to mete out justice – if it were any one of us it would not be so tempered – for He alone knows the heart of man.

Finally, and as we have said before, the “45” days of Blessedness – for “Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days” or 45 days beyond the 1,290 days (1335 minus 1290 = 45 days). It is within these 45 days – yes, the “full measure of the Sacred Basin’s washing and sacrificial preparation” – for 10 cubits + 5 cubits + 30 cubits = 45 cubits and, as well, 252” x 126” x 756” = 24,004,512 = 2 + 4 + 4 + 5 + 1 + 2 = “18” the New Jerusalem – for all “preparation” – all washing, all sacrifice, all priestly ministry is moving inexorable toward one glorious preparation: The New Jerusalem wherein the Lamb’s Wife has made herself ready to be His Eternal Bride – in Eternal Relationship: Mr. & Mrs. Lamb!

Even in using Pi, Ivan has discovered an amazing truth – this gives the circumference of the basin, using its diameter of “10” (cubits) x 3.142857 (Pi) equal to 31.42857 and not 30, which means that we have exceeded the 30 by:
31.42857 less 30.00000 = 1.42857 (or in Sacred Cubits we have 792 – 756 = 36 for 30 x 25.20 = 756 and 252” x 3.142857 = 791.999964 or 792 – so, in summary:

Ivan’s Calculations:
31.42857 or 792 is the Circumference of the Basin
30.00000 or 756 is the Circumference of the Basin in strict use of the 25.20” Sacred Cubit.

Taking the 10 Cubit (brim to brim) measurement x 25.20” we arrive at 252” x 3.142857 = 756” Circumference which equals 7 + 5 + 6 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard and 792 (Ivan’s Circumference) minus 756 = 36” differential which gives us the 360 or 360° of that circumference…756 / 36 = 21 sets of “36” + 1 additional set of 36 to equal 792 gives us 22 sets of 36. 22 x 36 = 792 = 7 + 9 + 2 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard Measurement.

Finally, Ivan’s 792 is not only the standard measurement of the New Jerusalem’s Edge in feet (7,920,000’) but it is likewise a fractal of the Earth’s Diameter in miles…for the Earth’s Diameter equals 7,920 Miles (Imperial Miles) x 5,280 Imperial Feet = 41,580,000 Linear Feet of Earth’s Diameter = 4 + 1 + 5 + 8 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard; and, if the Earth were cubed using its diameter as one of its 12 edges it would equal to 7920 x 12 = 95,040 Linear Miles on its 12 cubed edges (look familiar?); indeed, Earth’s cubed 95,040 Linear Miles is a “fractal” of the distance between the Earth and the Sun at apogee (95,040,000 Imperial Miles) and it PRECISELY measures the 12 edges of the New Jerusalem at 95,040,000 Linear Feet divided by 5,280’ (Imperial Feet in a Mile) = 18,000 Linear Miles or the “18” = The Standard of the New Jerusalem. And, as you can see below in cubing the Earth using its 7,920 mile diameter as one of its twelve edges – firstly, its 7920 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard and then 4 x 7920 = 31680 = 18 NJS and then, again, 31680 (miles) x 3 (for its 12 cubed edges) = 95,040 Linear Miles = 18 NJS.


Reply  Message 7 of 12 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:30

Finding the New Jerusalem in the Earth cubed gives ample evidence to the phrase: New Heaven and a New Earth = for could the Earth express the Measurements of the New Jerusalem so precisely? Let’s see: 41,580,000 Linear Feet (one edge of he 12-Edged Cubed New Jerusalem) x 41,580,000 Linear Feet (determining one side of this six-sided cubed Earth in area) = 1,728,896,400,000,000 (or 1 Quadrillion, seven-hundred twenty-eight trillion, eight-hundred and ninety-six billion, four-hundred million square feet) on one side of the cubed Earth.

Now we must multiply this figure by a multiple of 6 to determine the square footage on all of its six sides; therefore:
1,728,896,400,000,000 x 6 = 10,373,378,400,000,000 square feet – now this figure must be divided by 43,560 sq. feet which are in 1 Imperial Acre to determine the number of acres on our six-sided-cubed Earth to see if it reflects the measurement in some way of the New Jerusalem (using, of course, Ivan’s 792” Circumference of the Sacred Basin, having multiplied the Basin’s 10 cubit diameter (brim to brim) by 3.14+ to arrive at 792” “Ivan Circumference”)…o.k. – here we go…keep holding your breath while the goat herder calculates:
10,373,378,400,000,000 / 43,560 = 238,140,000,000 acres…AND, you guessed it:
2 + 3 + 8 + 1 + 4 = 18 THE NEW JERUSALEM Standard of Measurement!

Still, they will not believe – but on a small scale, if we took the 10 cubit diameter of the Sacred Basin and multiplied it via the Sacred Cubit of 25.20” we, of course, arrive at 252” – now, let’s extrapolate that figure out “there” to see if we can arrive at the New Jerusalem….

252” is the diameter of the “circular” basin – a small “world” or “earth” or “moon” or “sun” – all of which have 360° as spheres – so let’s take our miniature and commence the process:
252” x 252” (to determine the square area of one of its newly created six sides) = 63,504 sq. inches (which, by the way equals to “18” interestingly enough). Now let’s take into account 6 separate sides to our newly created cube:
63,504 x 6 = 381,024 = 3 + 8 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 18 NEW JERUSALEM STANDARD…it’s almost not fair, is it, because the 252 was really 252” (as in 10 cubits x 25.20” Sacred Cubit = 252”); therefore, we should have converted this to feet as in 252” / 12” = 21’ … so we’re really talking about 21’ as the Sacred Basin’s Diameter or “brim to brim” measurement, right?

Let’s do it again with this measurement:
21’ x 21’ = 441’ (looks a lot like 144 doesn’t it—maybe that’s why those oxen’s rears are all facing inward!) – now, taking this as one of the Basin’s Cubed sides we must now multiply it by 6 (for a cube has six sides) to determine the full square footage of this “Sacred Basin Cube”…

441 sq. feet x 6 = 2,646 sq. feet = 2 + 6 + 4 + 6 = 18 NEW JERUSALEM STANDARD! But, let’s nail it: 2 x 6 x 4 x 6 = 288 = 18 NEW JERUSALEM STANDARD! Still not enough? O.K. Let’s reverse the 441 to 144 as in the measurement of the Wall of the New Jerusalem: 144 x 6 = 864…Good grief, Scotty, we’ve landed on the Sun! How’s that, Captain Kirk? Well, the Sun’s diameter is 864,000 Miles and, besides, 8 + 6 + 4 = 18 NEW JERUSALEM STANDARD.

So, I’d like to express my appreciation – all of our appreciation – to both Ivan and Frosty – from all of us dumb goat herders to all of you who are smarter than God…maybe you guys should get your rears facing in the right direction – that way you can see the measurements of the Sacred Basin!

Oh, one more thing – since the Bronze (as in Bronze Basin) is really another word for Copper Basin…Copper (Cu) has an atomic weight of 63.546. And, since the Divine Geometer and Architect is also the Divine Chemist, having given us all of Earth’s elements, wouldn’t He send us some message as well in this respect?

Surely, He would: 6 + 3 + 5 + 4 + 6 = 24.
24 reflects the 24 Sacred Canon of the Hebrew (from their MSS, whereas we of the King James Version have broken up the combined texts to 39 but the Jews have 24) …this “24” also bespeaks of the 24 Elders of the Revelation or the 12 Tribes of Israel whose Names are over the 12 Gates of the New Jerusalem and the 12 Names of the Apostles of the Lamb (i.e., the Church) whose Names are upon the 12 Foundations of the New Jerusalem. All “24” have been washed and judged here at the Sacred Copper Basin… furthermore…

6 x 3 x 5 x 4 x 6 = 2160 which is 6 x 360 = 2160 or on the 6th Day man was created (i.e., 6 x 360° = 2160°) which 2160 is the diameter of Earth’s Moon in Statute Miles which if it were to have the Moon “cubed” to express the New Jerusalem would be as follows: 2160 diameter x 12 Edges = 25,920 Linear Miles = “18” New Jerusalem Standard and, wouldn’t you know it, 25,920 is equal to the number of years in the Great Precessional of 25,920 Years (also known as the Zodiac and in Hebrew as the Mazzaroth – which is altogether another goat herder’s delight). Boy, that dumb British tribe sure knew what they were doing when it came to Sacred Measurement.
One more thing: There is another measurement of the earth invented by the British – the Nautical Mile which is 21,600 Nautical Miles about the circumference of the Earth (again 2160).


Reply  Message 8 of 12 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:31

Every time Ivan and Frosty flies about the Sun in their earthly rotation they are flying on instruments calculated to the Nautical Mile (or if they decide to float about the earth, they’re stuck with this Nautical Mile of “sacred worth” (perhaps a most disconcerting apprehension of reality for them). This “copper understanding” reminding us all that that Sacred Basin’s very element mirrors the earth’s Nautical Mile Circumference which in turn mirror the dimensions of our Moon’s 2,160 Diameter (Statute Miles); and, incidentally, 21,600 Nautical Miles uses a factor/multiple of 1.15 to determine the distance in Statute Miles; therefore, 21,600 x 1.15 = 24,840 Statute Miles, which in many metrologies is the measurement of the Earth in Statute Miles (circumference) which is, as well: 2 + 4 + 8 + 4 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard Measurement.

Therefore, the Earth in Statute Miles, in measuring its number of Statute Miles/Feet (5,280’ in a Statute Mile) is equal to 24,840 miles x 5,280’ = 131,155.200 Linear Feet = 1 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 5 + 5 + 2 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard of Measurement. To determine the number of feet in a Nautical Mile you simply multiply 5,280’ x 1.15 = 6072’ (Number of feet in a Nautical Mile) which measurement equals to the New Jerusalem Edge of “15” as in 6 + 7 + 2 = 15. And, as well, we discover that 21,600 x 6072 = 131,155,200 Linear Nautical Feet (of course); moreover, the peculiar number of “6072” clearly represents two peculiar number sets: “60” and “72”.

There are 360° in the circumference of the Earth or 21,600 Nautical Miles / 360° = 60 Miles in 1° of the Nautical Earth; likewise, we witness that in the 25,920 years of the Zodiacal/Mazzaroth Great Precessional there are these same 360° within this circuit. Therefore: 25,920 years / 360° = 72 years in 1° of the Zodiacal Circuit/Cycle. Immediately we see the “earth and the heavens” resound with an astonishing calculation of 60 and 72 = together the number of feet in a Nautical Mile (6072’).

But, 3° of the Nautical Earth equal 180 Nautical Miles (the New Jerusalem Standard) and 3° of the “heavens” are equal to 3 x 72 = 216 years (“216” in Hebrew Gematria connotes the Name of God, among a host of “spiritual realities” – see here). When the “heavens and the earth” come together under “3” which is the Triune God/ the One God (i.e., 6072 x 3) you arrive at 18,216 or “18” and “216” which is 3×60 = 180 = 18 and 72×3 = 216…somewhat astounding. If, however, we combine 180 + 216 = 396 = 3 + 9 + 6 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard…all this from the atomic weight of copper (63.546). Oh, and by the way 396 is a fractal of the radius of Earth’s 3960 miles (diameter being 7920) and, of course, 3960 Statute Miles x 5280 (Imperial Feet) = “27” which is the full revelation of Messiah in the 27 books of the Christian Canon.

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Gallons of Water in the Ten Lavers and the Great Basin – Incredible Measurements!

We have carefully determined that the “Hebrew Bath” is equal to 9 Gallons of Water; therefore, the 2,000 baths of the Sea of Caste Bronze, the Great Basin, is equal to 2,000 x 9 = 18,000 Gallons of Water. Water has both cubic inches within it and weight in pounds (staying completely away from the metric system in measurement); therefore, we have these astounding calculations:

Gallons of Water in Cubic Inches

18,000 Gallons x 231 Cubic Inches to 1 Gallon of Water = 4,158,000 cubic inches = 18 NJS (or 4 + 1 + 5 + 8 = 18).
360 Gallons per Laver (i.e., 40 baths x 9 gallons per bath = 360 gallons) x 231 Cubic Inches per Gallon = 83,160 Cubic Inches = 18 NJS (8 + 3 + 1 + 6 = 18) and 83,160 x 5 Lavers = 415,800 Cubic Inches per 5 Lavers or 18 NJS x 2 (to arrive at 10 total Lavers of Water) or 415,800 x 2 = 831,600 = 18 NJS (8 + 3 + 1 + 6 = 18).

Combining the 4,158,000 cubic inches of the 18,000 Gallon (2,000 bath) Sea of Cast Bronze Basin with the total Gallons of the 10 Lavers we arrive at: 4,158,000 + 831,600 = 4,989,600 = “36” (4 + 9 + 8 + 9 + 6 = 36) or the Eternal God without Beginning or Ending as in 360° of a Circle. Therefore, the Eternal God’s intention is the 18 New Jerusalem Standard wherein the sum of both the Great Basin and the 10 Lavers is equal to “36” and, likewise, separately the total “cubic-inch number” of the Great Basin (4,158,000) is equal to 18 NJS and the total “cubic-inch number” also of gallons of the 10 Lavers is equal to 18 NJS (83,600) and 18 + 18 = 36 to confirm the Eternal God’s intention on behalf of the New Jerusalem’s Standard of Measurement – He measures everything by this ultimate standard for the Universe!

Gallons of Water in US and Imperial Weight

Likewise, water has “standard water weight” – 1 US Gallon is equal to 8.35 Pounds (lbs.) and 1 Imperial Gallon of water weight is equal to 10 Pounds” (Note: Opinions on water weight vary due to condition of the water but these calculations are standard weights of water.).
Therefore using US Gallon Weight @ 8.35 Lbs. p/gal.
2,000 Baths x 9 Gallons per Bath = 18,000 Gallons x 8.35 Lbs. = 150,300 Lbs. = 9 (1 + 5 + 3)
40 Baths x 10 Lavers = 400 Baths x 9 Gallons per bath = 3,600 Gallons x 8.35 Lbs. = 30,060 Lbs. = 9 (3 + 6 = 9)

Combining the 150,300 Lbs. (Great Basin) + 30,060 Lbs. (10 Lavers) = 180,360 = 18 NJS (1 + 8 + 3 + 6 = 18)
Using Imperial (British) Weight per Gallon at 10 Lbs. per Gallon:
2,000 Baths x 9 Gallons per Bath = 18,000 Gallons x 10 = 180,000 Lbs. = 18 NJS
40 Baths x 10 Lavers = 400 Baths x 9 Gallons per bath = 3,600 Gallons x 10 Lbs. = 36,000 Gallons = 36 = The Eternal God or 3 x 6 = 18 NJS.

Combining the 180,000 Lbs. (Great Basin) + 36,000 Gallons (10 Lavers) = 216,000 and 216 = The Name of God (3 x 72 = 216) or 2160 Miles the Diameter of the Moon (“the Moon beneath her feet”) or the 21,600 Mile Circumference of the Earth in Nautical Miles and, consequently, the measurement, if cubed, of the New Jerusalem in that 2160 (Moon’s Diameter used as its edge) x 12 Edges of a Cubed Moon = 25,920 = 18 NJS and 25,920 in years is equal to one complete circuit of the Great Precessional of the Mazzaroth/Zodiac; also, cubing the Earth’s Nautical Mile (6876 Nautical Miles = Earth’s Diameter in Nautical Miles) or 6,876 Nautical Miles x 12 Edges (12 edges in every cube) = 82,512 Linear Nautical Miles = 18 NJS (8 + 2 + 5 + 1 + 2 = 18) and 82,512 x 6072’ (number of feet in a Nautical Mile) = 501,012,864 Nautical Feet = “27” (The full revelation of Messiah in Sacred Christian Canon (27 books)).

We may readily conclude from these cubic inch per gallon of water and water weight, using either US or Imperial Standard weight per gallon of water (8.35 Lb./US or 10.00 Lb./Imperial) that the quantity of water in both the Great Basin (18,000 gallons) and the total water in the 10 Lavers atop their carts/wheels equal to 3,600 gallons, that these calculations are highly suggestive that the Eternal God revealed in Messiah have but one goal: The New Jerusalem.

The nature of the Almighty is persistent, consistent and relentlessly moving toward but one Divine Purpose: The New Jerusalem. This demonstrates the Eternal God’s quest for Eternal Relationship with the panicle of his creation: Humankind.

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Gold, Silver, Precious Stones and Water – Atomic Weights

We can continue these extrapolations originating at the Sacred Basin of King Solomon and continue them indefinitely; for their amplifications persist beyond copper’s atomic weight, continue into the gold, silver, water and the versatility of onyx stone – elements which meet their compliments in those peculiar to Music, Physiology, Biology, Optics and probe the depths of Astronomy and, in particular, of our own Solar System, inner and outer planets, as well as “dwarf planets” extending to these planets’ diameters, orbits and distances from Earth…and all point to the New Jerusalem’s “Final Conclusion!”


Reply  Message 9 of 12 on the subject 
From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:31

“Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones…” (I Corinthians 3:12). These are the materials the believer must build with – for only these shall endure; all other “works” are burned in the fire. The “gold” of the New Jerusalem connotes the total transformation of the believer (so, the City is “pure gold” and the street is “clear gold” and the “silver” substantiates that “these are redeemed from among men” (Revelation 14:3-4; 21:18, 21).

Gold (Au) has 79 protons and electrons and 118 neutrons or 7 x 9 x 1 x 1 x 8 = 504 or the 5040 of Plato’s Optimal Number divided by “2” = the measurement of the Sacred Cubit: 2520.

Silver (Ag), which unequivocally presents the price of redemption, has 47 protons and electrons and 61 neutrons or 47 + 61 = 108 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard of Measurement.

Copper (Cu), there are 29 Proton/Electrons and 35 Neutrons with an atomic weight of 63.546 amu. Therefore: 29 + 35 = 64 and 2 x 9 x 3 x 5 x 6 x 4 = 6480 = 18 NJS (6 + 4 + 8 = 18) or 63.546 = 6 x 3 x 5 x 4 x 6 = 2160 = the Name of God (216) or the diameter of the Earth’s Moon (2160 miles) or the Circumference of the Earth in Nautical Miles (2160) and all the concomitant expressions of the New Jerusalem associated thereto.

The WATER OF LIFE – “water” has always connoted LIFE. In the New Jerusalem water plays a dominate role and all are encouraged to drink of the “water of Life freely” – for it is at the invitation of the Spirit and the Bride that all are encouraged to drink of this wondrous water:

“And the Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come!’ And let him who hears say, ‘Come!’ and let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him TAKE THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY” (Revelation 22:17).

Therefore, and with such acclamation of Divine Intention – I leave you with this most astounding measurement of all the WATER of these Lavers and Great Basin and of the Water of Life that flows from the Throne of God and the Lamb in the New Jerusalem:

“And he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations” (Revelation 22:1-2):

Atomic Weight of Water: 2 Hydrogen + 1 Oxygen = Water or H2O; therefore, we discover the following:

  • 2 Hydrogen = 1 Proton/Electron + 1 Proton/Electron = 2
  • Atomic Weight of Hydrogen: 1.00794 x 2 = 2.01588 +
  • 1 Oxygen = 8 Protons/Electrons and 8 Neutrons or 8 + 8 = 16; therefore:
  • Hydrogen = 2 + 16 of Oxygen = 18 Protons/Electrons/Neutrons and “18” is the New Jerusalem Standard
  • Atomic Weight of Oxygen: 15.9994
  • Precise Atomic Weight of Water: 2.01588 (Hydrogen) + 15.9994 (Oxygen) = 18.0153 (rounded to nearest ten-thousands.
  • Molecular Weight of H20 returns 18.0153 = 18 NJS (1 + 8 + 1 + 5 + 3 = 18).

Therefore, the molecular weight of water is the sustenance – the Life-Giving Spirit – the all-sufficient cleansing of the priesthood and of the sacrifice which is for but one purpose = to cleanse and sustain the inhabitants of the New Jerusalem with the Water of Life – which is FREELY received. The atomic weight/molecular weight of hydrogen (1) + (1) = 2 Hydrogen + (1) Oxygen = 3 (Triune God) and these three concur but for one goal: The New Jerusalem – in that all their protons/electrons and neutrons and their very molecular weight in great precision equate to the 18 New Jerusalem Standard of measurement.

Also: 18 is not just the number for H2O but also for Carbon – Carbon is the “chemical basis of all physical life on Earth.” Carbon has an atomic weight of 12 or 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons. If we separate out the electrons from the protons (for the “nucleus” of the atom is our base weight) and count the electrons separately, we will arrive at these “three sets” of 6 or 666 which, of course, equals to “18” NJS or the “number of a man, 666.” Carbon is necessary to form all DNA and RNA, the chemical code of life as it currently exists.

Revelation 13 points to the “666” as the “number” of the Beast. Interestingly enough, Carbon’s atomic number is “6” but its Atomic Mass is 12.0107 amu. – meaning 12.0107 = “11” (1 + 2 + 1 + 0 + 7) whereby the “666” and “11” are embodied in the Antichrist-Beast – the “11th Horn” – notwithstanding, this “negative” or “11” or, for that matter, “666” when “acted upon” by taking the sum of each digit (i.e., 6 + 6 + 6) sums to “18” – in other words,
when acted upon by the Triune God even the “negative” is transformed into a “positive” – just as John Michell states when highlighting the number of “fusion” is “1746” arrived at when:

“The number 1,746 is a symbol of fusion between the negative and positive forces in nature, 1,080 and 666, of which it is the sum. It is the number by gematria of  the Universal Spirit, which is the combination of those two forces, and it is the number of the name given to the light that streamed out of the holy of holies…The name of that light was the Glory of the God of Israel 1,746.” (The Dimensions of Paradise, John Michell, p. 223).
What Michell failed to recognize is that all three number sets (666, 1080 and 1746) result in a “number sum” of “18” which is the New Jerusalem Standard and that “666” can be directly affected (yes, by the 1080 or “18”) by the “Name of God” in “216” or 6 x 6 x 6 = 216 (or three number sets of “72” as per Exodus 14:19-21).

Certainly, you may dismiss all this (and there are many more such measurements yet unexplored) but to be so trivial to dispense with the measurements of the Sacred Basin and all these 10 Carts/Lavers is not only preposterous but indicative of gross ignorance of these Divinely-Inspired texts. But as Jesus once said of the poor man in the bliss of “Abraham’s Bosom” – “though Moses would come back from the dead, they will not believe” – and so it is in our time…skeptics like Frosty and Ivan, unless Divine Intervention will save their wretched souls, their, as Jack Hook so clearly states, “sinful natures” will get the best of them and they will perish in their unbelief – sad but sorely true. And, like the fellow veteran in the coffee house: “Why is it that some find God in their foxholes and others just get bitter and scarcely find themselves?” Yet, someone out there really cares – though unseen . . . Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow!


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NickName 1 August 9, 2012 at 6:37 am

The Messiah’s Number = 793 (jewish)
—>hr/min/sec hand at 7/9/3 is opposite 5/3/9
—>(5:39)* = 5.65 min
—>565 sec = (9:25)*
Yehoshua HaMeshiach = 925 (jewish)

(5:39)* is opposite 7:21
The Name of the Most High God = 721 (jewish)

Yehoshua’s Number = 1209 (jewish)
12:09 am = 00:09
—>00:09
—>0.9 min = (54)* sec
—>5:45:40 = min/hr/sec hand at 5/9/8
—>God’s Numbers = 598 (jewish)

The Messiah’s Number = 199 (english)
19.9 min = 19:54
19:54 = 7:54 PM
—->Yehoshua HaMeshiach = 754 (heb.)
—->Shem Qadshi “My Holy Name” = 754 (heb)

7:54 opposite 17:06
17:06 = 1026 sec
—>10:26 opposite 2:34
—>The Number of the Messiah = 234 (english)

Matrix: something within or from which something else originates.
for ex: the number 54 originates from the numbers 5,4, and zero (ie 54.0 ; 544544, and 5454 /as in above)

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nomolos 2 January 2, 2012 at 12:38 am

Petrie’s cubit was 20.63 inches according to Encyc. Brit., 11th ed., 1910, Vol. 28, p. 482

German Assyriologist Eckhard Unger found a copper-alloy bar while excavating at Nippur. The bar dates from c. 2650 BC and Unger claimed it was used as a measurement standard. This irregularly formed and irregularly marked graduated rule supposedly defined the Sumerian cubit as about 518.6 mm – Acta praehistorica et archaeologica Volumes 7–8. Berliner Gesellschaft für Anthropologie, Ethnologie und Urgeschichte; Ibero-Amerikanisches Institut (Berlin, Germany); Staatliche Museen Preussischer Kulturbesitz. Berlin: Bruno Hessling Verlag 1976 p. 49

According to Dieter the royal cubit was 523 to 529 mm (20.6 to 20.8 in) in length. – Dieter, Arnold (1991) Building in Egypt: pharaonic stone masonry Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press ISBN 9780195063509 p.251

There are references to common both common and royal cubits across many cultures, but I can find none that reference a standard rule of 25 inches.

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Doug Krieger 3 January 2, 2012 at 11:22 pm

Dear Nomolos – I respectfully beg to differ with you – the 25″+ and, in particular, the 25.20″ Sacred Cubit is ubiquitous – please do more research – but I delight in your desire to help us along this path…a path which will ultimately confirm that the 25.20″ Sacred Cubit is truly a glorious find indeed – the truth will prevail! I will be doing several more articles relative to the 25.20″ Cubit entitled on 5 Major Sacred Altars: Egypt/Giza Pyramid; Moses, Solomon and Ezekiel and the Apocalyptic Altar, a most amazing connection amongst them all…bless…

• “These are the measurements of the altar in cubits (the cubit is one cubit and a handbreadth)” or 21.6 (long cubit + 3.6” = 25.20”…
• The Assyria Cubit of 21.6” or 1.8’ is the “base cubit” or equal to the fractal of 2160° or six rotations of the earth at 360° per day = 2160° +
• “a handbreadth” = 3.6” – therefore, “a cubit (Assyrian 21.6”) and a handbreadth (3.6”)” = 21.6” + 3.6” = 25.20” or the measurement of the Sacred Cubit.
• Persia Royal Cubit was equal to “seven Assyrian hand palms” – therefore, the Persian Royal Cubit approximates 25.2” / 7 (Assyrian Palms) = 3.6” per palm x 7 = 25.2” = Persian Royal Cubit = Hebrew Sacred Cubit) (Note: “All these are multiples of the basic palm breadth of 3.6 inches (91.44 mm) which was used by the Babylonians and Hebrews [and Assyrians].” – Source: Gordon J. Row, The Cubit). The base of the altar in Ezekiel is one cubit high and one cubit wide, with a rim all around its edge of one span (Note: The “span” was considered the distance from the thumb to the little finger stretched out and equaled 9”). The “handbreadth” is acknowledged by the Jerusalem Temple Institute as 3.6” for when speaking of the Altar of Solomon’s Temple and the protrusion of the horns upon the altar they state: “These horns measured one amah square and 5 handbreadths high, each (or, app. 18” x 18” x 15”) (Note: “5 handbreadths” = 3.6” x 5 = 18” …therefore, “7 handbreadths” would be: 3.6” x 7 = 25.20” = 1 Sacred Cubit measurement.)
• Here we may note that the 3.6” is discovered by dividing 18” / 3.6” = 5 or 5 x 3.6” = 18”.
• Furthermore, and of great interest to us is the fact that the “horns of the altar” have the following capacity: 18” x 18” x 15” = 4,860” = 4 + 8 + 6 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard. Thus, the “horns of the altar” have the ultimate authority of the New Jerusalem! Likewise, the “18” is the New Jerusalem Standard and the “15” is one edge of the New Jerusalem’s Cubed shape – i.e., as a fractal the “15” equates to the 1,500 miles of the New Jerusalem.
• “Some indeed are of the opinion that the handbreadth is to be added only to the six cubits (total – i.e., six cubits and then only 1 handbreadth added to the 6) and not to each of them; but the text is clear and expresses that these cubits were by or according to a cubit and a hand’s breadth. So the Targum paraphrases it, ‘and in the man’s hand measuring reeds, one of which was six cubits by a cubit, which is a cubit and a hand’s breadth;’” (Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible; Ezekiel 40:5)
• “The description of the temple (for, according to what follows, ????? is the house of Jehovah) (cf. Ezekiel 43:7) commences with the surrounding wall of the outer court, whose breadth (i.e., thickness) and height are measured (see the illustration, Plate I a a a a), the length of the measuring rod having first been given by way of parenthesis. This was six cubits (sc., measured) by the cubit and handbreadth – that is to say, six cubits, each of which was of the length of a (common) cubit and a handbreadth (cf. Ezekiel 43:13); in all, therefore, six cubits and six handbreadths. The ordinary or common cubit, judging from the statement in 2 Chronicles 3:3, that the measure of Solomon’s temple was regulated according to the earlier measure, had become shorter in the course of time than the old Mosaic or sacred cubit. From the new temple, therefore, the measure is regulated according to a longer cubit, in all probability according to the old sacred cubit of the Mosaic law, which was a handbreadth longer than the common cubit according to the passage before us, or seven handbreadths of the ordinary cubit. ??????, the masonry, is the building of the wall, which was one rod broad, i.e., thick, and the same in height. The length of this wall is not given, and can only be learned from the further description of the whole wall (see the comm. on Ezekiel 40:27).” (Keil and Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament, Ezekiel 40)
• “The CUBIT was a measure of length used by the Hebrews, Egyptians and Babylonians, being the distance from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger. So the CUBIT would vary by the physical size of the workman or overseer. This needed to be “standardized” if a project like the construction of the Temple was to proceed to a satisfactory conclusion. Archaeological research has revealed that in Solomon’s day there were at least three different cubits in use:-
(1) LAND CUBIT which was used for plotting the layout of the Temple’s courts and the surrounding terraces, it had a length of about 17.6 inches (447 mm)
(2) BUILDING CUBIT used in the construction of buildings was about 14.4 inches (366 mm) long
(3) GOLD CUBIT used in the making of the gold and silver vessels and the decorative work was about 10.8 inches (274 mm).
All these are multiples of the basic palm breadth of 3.6 inches (91.44 mm) which was used by the Babylonians and Hebrews. [Therefore, the 25.20” Sacred Cubit is comprised of 7 ea. 3.6 palm breadths or 7 x 3.6” = 25.20” (Royal Cubit)

The Egyptian Cubit was devised about 3000BC and was standardized by a Royal Master Cubit of black granite, against which all the Cubic Sticks were checked at regular intervals. The [Egyptian] Royal Cubit (20.62 inches, 524 mm) was (20.62 inches, 524 mm) was subdivided in a rather complicated way. The basic unit was the DIGIT, a fingers breadth, of which there are 28 in the Royal Cubit. The digit in turn was subdivided. The 14th digit on the Cubit stick was divided into 16 equal parts. The next digit was divided into 15 equal parts, and so on, to the 28th digit which was divided into two equal parts. Thus the smallest division, 1/16th of a digit, was equal to 1/148th part of a Royal Cubit, (0.046 inches or 1.17 mm). The accuracy of the Cubit Stick is evidenced by the Great Pyramid of Giza; thousands were employed on its construction, yet its sides vary no more than 0.05% from the mean length of 755.8 feet.” (The Cubit, Gordon J. Row)
• The original measures of length were derived from the human body: the finger, hand, arm, span, foot, and pace. As these measures differ with each individual, they must be reduced to a certain definite standard for general use. The Hebrew system, therefore, had such a standard; the ell (“ammah”) contained 2 spans (“zeret”), while each span was made up of 3 handbreadths (“efa”) of 4 fingers (“eba’ “) each. This division of the ell into 6 handbreadths (i.e., if 1 handbreadth equals 3.0″ then 6 handbreadths equal to 6 x 3″ = 18″ + 1 additional handbreadth = 21″ but if 1 handbreadth equals to 3.6″ then 6 x 3.6″ = 21.6″ and 1 additional handbreadth equals to 21.6″ + 3.6″ = 25.20″) was the one customarily employed in antiquity, but it was supplanted in Babylonia by the sexagesimal system. The Old Testament mentions two ells of different size. Ezekiel implies that in his measurement of the Temple the ell was equal to a “cubit and a handbreadth” (xl. 5, xliii. 13)—that is, one handbreadth larger than the ell commonly used in his time (i.e., ell = cubit + 1 handbreadth = SPECIAL ELL). Since among all peoples the ell measured 6 handbreadths, the proportion of Ezekiel’s ell to the others was as 7 to 6. The fact that Ezekiel measured the Temple by a special ell is comprehensible and significant only on the assumption that this ell was the standard of measurement of the old Temple of Solomon as well. This is confirmed by the statement of the Chronicler that the Temple of Solomon was built according to “cubits after the first measure” (II Chron. iii. 3), implying that a larger ell was used at first, and that this was supplanted in the course of time by a smaller one. (Jewish Encyclopedia, Weights and Measures)
• “Cubit is a measure of length used by several early civilizations. It was based on the length of the forearm from the tip of the middle finger to the elbow. No one knows when this measure was established. The length of the arm, or cubit, was commonly used by many early peoples, including the Babylonians, Egyptians, and Israelites. The royal cubit of the ancient Egyptians was about 20.6 inches (52.3 centimeters) long. That of the ancient Romans was 17.5 inches (44.5 centimeters). The Israelites’ cubit at the time of Solomon was 25.2 inches (64 centimeters).” (Richard S. Davis, World Encyclopedia)


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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:33
 This cubit was also much used by the Jews (33), and is so often referred to that it has eclipsed the 25.1 cubit in most writers. The Gemara names 3 Jewish cubits (2) of 5, 6 and 7 palms; and, as Oppert (24) shows that 25.2 was reckoned 7 palms, 21.6 being 5 palms, we may reasonably apply this scale to the Gemara list, and read it as 18, 21.6 and 25.2 in. There is also a great amount of medieval and other data showing this cubit of 21.6 to have been familiar to the Jews after their captivity; but there is no evidence for its earlier date, as there is for the 25 in. cubit (from the brazen sea) and for the 18 in. cubit from the Siloam inscription. (24) J. Oppert, Etalon des mesures assyriennes (1875);
• “25.1. – The earliest sign of this cubit is in a chamber at Abydos (44) about 1400 B.C.; there, below the sculptures, the plain wall is marked out by red designing lines in spaces of 25.13 ± 0.03 in., which have no relation to the size of the chamber or to the sculpture. They must therefore have been marked by a workman using a cubit of 25.13. Apart from medieval and other very uncertain data, such as the Sabbath day’s journey being 2000 middling paces for 2000 cubits, it appears that Josephus, using the Greek or Roman cubit, gives half as many more to each dimension of the temple than does the Talmud; this shows the cubit used in the Talmud for temple measures to be certainly not under 25 in. Evidence of the early period is given, moreover, by the statement in I Kings (vii. 26) that the brazen sea held 2000 baths; the bath being about 2300 cub. in., this would show a cubic of 25 in. The corrupt text in Chronicles of 3000 baths would need a still longer cubit; and, if a lesser cubit of 21.6 or 18 in, be taken, the result for the size of the bath would be impossibly small. For other Jewish cubits see 18.2 and 21.6. Oppert (24) concludes from inscriptions that there was in Assyria a royal cubit (7/6)ths of the U cubit, or 25.20; and four monuments show (25) a cubit averaging 25.28. For Persia Queipo (33) relies on, and develops, an Arab statement that the Arab cubit was the royal Persian, thus fixing it at about 25 in.; and the Persian guerze at present is 25, the royal guerze being 1+(1/2) times this, or 371 in. As a unit of 1.013, decimally multiplied, is most commonly to be deduced from the ancient Persian buildings, we may take 25.34 as the nearest approach to the ancient Persian.” (Weights and Measures, Encyclopedia Britannica)

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Crescencia Leon Medhurst 4 December 27, 2011 at 6:17 pm

Fun is: How can you align the sun, moon and earth at right angles? Maybe even as they touch the circumference of the sun? At that time, where are all the other heavenly bodies frozen… in space?
Think of constellations as they were positioned 200,000 years ago and contrast them to their present formation. These are calculations of circles within circles which are very interesting. Some maths for a wintry evening!

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Doug Krieger 5 January 3, 2012 at 12:35 am

Dear CLM – yes – 200,000 years ago would be interesting but little has changed in that brief period of time – I am doing a special series on the Solar System and our dwarf planets which will validate the measurements of the new Jerusalem – both orbits and mass/size, etc. – most fascinating and, I am sure, that I will get a fairly remarkable reaction as to my thesis – in point of fact, I am absolutely convinced ot it – but, since you bring up this matter of TIME – I am also working on this topic but I leave you with these embarrassing realities which I find folks like the late Christopher Hitchens would find most disconcerting but here goes – I briefly responded to someone in another forum regarding these matters of “time” with the realization that the “time” comes when “time shall be no more” – but in the mean”time” we’re bound by some marvelous discoveries – and there are many more…anyway, here’s my little letter to this person…

Everyday that you and I are alive is a testament to the Divine Intent – in that:

Seconds in a minute = 60 secs. x 1 hr. = 3,600 seconds x 24 hrs. = 86,400 x 7 days in a week = 604,800 or 86,400 x 30 days in a prophetic month = 2,592,000 or 86,400 x 360 days in a prophetic year = 31,104,000…

3,600 = 36 = 360 Degrees in a Circle = The Eternal God without Beginning or Ending
86,400 seconds in a day = 8 + 6 + 4 = “18″ which is the cardinal number alerting us to the ultimate measurement of the New Jerusalem’s 18,000 mile 12-edged perimeter and 864,000 Miles is the diameter of the Sun – who is the Sun of Righteousness (Malachi 4) and it is He Who clothes the Woman of Revelation 12. also, 2,592,000 = 2 + 5 + 9 + 2 = “18″ which again tells us that every month – every second of every month – God has but one purpose in view: the New Jerusalem! And, 31,104,000 seconds per prophetic year x 30 years (which was the year in which the Levite priest commenced to minister and the age of Jesus when he commenced His ministry – and what was the 30-years of preparation for? 31,104,000 x 30 years = 933,120,000 seconds in 30 prophetic years = 9 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 2 = “18″ – All His preparation was but for one thing: The New Jerusalem!

Indeed, Jesus ministered for 3.5 years (3 1/2 years) – if you take 31,104,000 seconds x 3.5 years, you arrive at 108,864,000 seconds of “ministry” and when you see that “108″ = “18″ and “864″ = “18″ and then recognize that 108 is a fractal of 1080 Miles (the radius of Earth’s Moon) and 864 is the fractal of Earth’s Sun’s diameter of 864,000 miles – then, you realize that the Woman, clothed with the Sun, with the Moon beneath her feet in Revelation 12 is a PROFOUND expression of the Divine Intent – EVERY SECOND OF JESUS’ MINISTRY from His baptism to His crucifixion on this earth was but for one purpose and one purpose only: His Bride, the New Jerusalem!

There are 60 minutes in each hour and there are 24 hours in each day x 60 = 1,260 minutes in each day – this 1,260 is equal to the number of days in Daniel’s 1/2 Week – i.e., 1,260 days = each of these time frames is exceedingly significant – the 42 months = time, times and half a time, 1,260 days or 3.5 years/3.5 days. This is the time of Great Tribulation, testing and testimony as well.

1,260 minutes in each day x 7 days (one week) = 8,820 which is also “18″ – therefore, each week bespeaks of God’s intention of the New Jerusalem and, furthermore, 1,260 x 30 days (one month) = 37,800 minutes per month (i.e., prophetic month) which is also equal to “18″ (3 + 7 + 8 = “18). and 12 months x 37,800 = 453,600 minutes per every 360-day prophetic year which also equals to “18″ as in 4 + 5 + 3 + 6 = 18. God has but one thing in view: The New Jerusalem!

Likewise, 30 years of minutes is equal to 30 x 453,600 minutes = 13,608,000 or “18″ (1 + 3 + 6 + 8 = “18″) and 3.5 years of minutes is equal to: 1,587,600 = “27″ which is wholly the number of New Testament texts connoting the full revelation of Messiah in the New Testament – indeed, every minute of his 3 1/2 years of ministry…and if you’re not sure about that just add: 13,608,000 minutes (30 years of minutes) to 1,587,600 minutes (or 3.5 years of ministry) = 15,195,600 = “27″ (1 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 5 + 6 = 27).

Also, there are 24 hours in one day and 7 days = 168 = 15 (1 + 6 + 8 = 15) and this “15″ is the first mention of “15″ of the edge of the New Jerusalem as in 12,000 furlongs on one side of the NJ (1 furlong = 660′) and 660′ x 12,000 furlongs = 7,920,000 Linear Feet / 5280′ (in one Imperial Mile) = 1,500 miles x 12 edges = 18,000 Miles = both “15″ (as in 1,500 miles) and “18″ (as in 18,000 Miles).

Also if there are 24 hours in one day x 30 prophetic days in a prophetic month = 720 hours per every 30 days = 72 is precisely the number in Hebrew to connote the Name of God and 360 prophetic days in every prophetic year = 360 x 24hrs. = 8,640 hours in every year, which in turn, is equal to “18″ (8 + 6 + 4 = “18″) and 864,000 is the diameter of the Sun, etc.

And, in 30 years there are 8,640 hours (each year) x 30 years = 259,200 hours in 30 years = 2 + 5 + 9 + 2 = “18″ – Therefore, every second, every minute, and every hour of His whole life was for one purpose: THE NEW JERUSALEM! And 3.5 years of ministry on this Earth = 8,640 hours per year x 3.5 years = 30,240 hours and when this is added to His 30 years = 30,240 hrs + 259,200 = 289,440 = “27″ which is the full revelation of Christ in the New Testament’s 27 books of Sacred Canon!


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From: BARILOCHENSE6999 Sent: 13/11/2012 03:34

And, insofar as “prophetic days” concern – 360 prophetic days per year x 30 years = 10,800 days – DO YOU SEE IT? “18″ – His entire preparation, every second, every minute, every hour, every day was but for THE NEW JERUSALEM!

And, 3.5 years x 360 prophetic days per year = 1,260 days – which is the 3.5 years of His ministry and the 1,260 days of “our ministry” in the Last Days (Revelation 11).

Well – isn’t it marvelous that time has a purpose! Now – most folks would find it difficult to believe any of this – bu some will – it’s a bit overwhelming and somewhat irrefutable!

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Herman King 6 December 26, 2011 at 12:51 pm

Archaeologists have found no trace of Solomon.

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Doug Krieger 7 January 2, 2012 at 11:12 pm

Dear Mr. King – this and other discoveries are well known – I think you need to do a little more research.

Below, read Oded Borowski’s full review of Eilat Mazar’s Discovering the Solomonic Wall in Jerusalem.

The Discovery of King Solomon’s Wall—A Personal Account
Discovering the Solomonic Wall in Jerusalem: A Remarkable Archaeological Adventure
By Eilat Mazar

Jerusalem: Shoham Academic Research and Publication, 2011
174 pp., 213 illus., $39.95 (hardcover)
Reviewed by Oded Borowski

Eilat Mazar’s relationship with the archaeology of Jerusalem goes back to the time when as an 11-year-old girl she accompanied her grandfather, the famous Israeli archaeologist Benjamin Mazar, to the excavations he directed near the Temple Mount. Her professional involvement with Jerusalem started when she participated in the City of David excavations directed by the Hebrew University Professor Yigal Shiloh. Since then, Dr. Mazar has been engaged with excavations in Jerusalem, concentrating mostly on the area known as the Ophel, the area between the City of David and the Temple Mount. Her present book is devoted to a particular segment of the Ophel excavation.

The book is directed at the lay reading public and was written shortly after the conclusion of the latest excavations of the fortification complex at the foot of the Temple Mount. The trigger for writing this book was the preparation of the site for opening to the public.

The first two chapters, “Born into It” and “Professional Beginnings,” are autobiographical and detail Mazar’s odyssey into the world of Jerusalem archaeology. Chapter 3, “The Ophel: History and Prior Excavations,” recounts the site’s history based on Biblical accounts. She also describes prior work at the site by Captain Charles Warren, the famous 19th-century British engineer and explorer, and by the eminent British archaeologist Dame Kathleen Kenyon in the mid-20th century. Next she discusses Benjamin Mazar’s excavations of the Ophel between 1968 and 1978 and the excavations of Benjamin and Eilat Mazar in 1986–1987. Chapter 6 deals with some of the activities Mazar was involved in between these excavations and her final one in 2009 in which she proceeded to clarify and uncover new elements from the First Temple period (1000–586 B.C.E.).

Chapter 7 describes area-by-area the architectural and stratigraphical discoveries, along with descriptions of some small finds including seal impressions (bullae), clay figurines, pottery and a fragment of an Amarna-type clay tablet written in cuneiform. The latter is a prize find because it makes a connection between Jerusalem and the political world of the ancient Near East in the Late Bronze Age (1550–1200 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              1550–1200      end_of_the_skype_highlighting B.C.E.). a

The massive structures from the First Temple period underline the importance and economic strength of Jerusalem at that time. She then describes the major structures from the Second Temple period and the Byzantine period.

The book ends with “Closing Thoughts”: “[This] is not just a story of the archaeological endeavors … but one where the archaeologist grew up alongside excavations her entire life.” And indeed, much of this book is a first-person account of important discoveries made by the author and her grandfather.

The text is accompanied by copious photographs, pottery plates, plans and sections, and isometric reconstructions. It is accessible and reads well. Not being the final scholarly publication, it does not invite a critical review, which I am sure will follow when the final publication comes out. Because the book is intended for the public, however, it would have been helpful if photographs showing structures and walls had some kind of markings, pointing out the important features mentioned in the captions. I am sure that this can be easily done in future editions.

Eilat Mazar should be congratulated on her many achievements in the field and on paper, and on the indefatigable energy and enthusiasm she has mustered and exhibited throughout her career.

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RichardPerry 8 December 23, 2011 at 4:09 pm

3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 9 = 874800 = “27” or 8 x 7 x 4 x 8 = 1792 = 18 New Jerusalem Standard or 1 + 7 + 9 + 2 = 18 or 8 + 7 + 4 + 8 = “27” and “27” is the full revelation of Messiah in the 27 volumes of the Christian Sacred Canon.
#### ” or 8 x 7 x 4 x 8 = 1792 = 18 is not so it is 19.
#### 1 + 7 + 9 + 2 = 18 is not so it is 19.

But, students, we must check our work:
864,000 x 5280’ = 4,540,800,000’ or, wouldn’t you know it, again, “18” (in that 4 + 5 + 4 + 8 = “18”)…and the “divine conspiracy” continues….
#### How does this add to 18 it is 21? And 864000 X 5280 ‘= 4,561,920,000.00 ‘= 21

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Doug Krieger 9 January 3, 2012 at 12:04 am

Dear Richard – Thank you, thank you, thank you – Normally, I purposefully flub up to see if anyone is reading this stuff! You apparently are and that is altogether gratifying.

Let’s go in reverse here – firstly, our little problem with the diameter of the Sun, etc. -
O.K. – 864,000 miles x 5280′ really should have a product: 4,561,920,000 (not 4,540,800,000′) and this most certainly does not equal “18″ but it does equal “27″ which, of course, is altogether more significant in that it is the full revelation of the Sun of Righteousness Himself as disclosed in the 27 books of the Christian Sacred Canon – and this calculation is all the more significant from this perspective. By the way, you are correct, i.e., 4,540,800,000 does equal “21″ but the product is wrong in the first place! Also, not sure about pointing out that somehow I came out with “21″ or you came out with “21″ – this “mistake” was intentional and you caught it – congrats (there should be some kind of prize for finding these cleverly devised and somewhat devious practices!

Now – let’s go to the serious disturbance in the force…

You are absolutely correct 8 x 7 x 4 x 8 = 1792 but 1 + 7 + 9 + 2 does not equal “18″ it equals “19″ – the text should be read as follows:

9. 3 x 1 x 4 x 1 x 5 x 9 x 2 x 6 x 5 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 9 = 874800 = “27” and “27” is the full revelation of Messiah in the 27 volumes of the Christian Sacred Canon.

The latter one was actually my mistake – the first one I made this year (Oh, well, 2 days…:)

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