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General: JESUCRISTO, EL MAYOR CIENTIFICO Y ALQUIMISTA DE LA HISTORIA
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TABERNACULO =TEMPLO DE SALOMON = KAABA = GIZE= VATICANO= WASHINGTON D.C = NUEVA JERUSALEN = JUAN MARCOS
CENACULO DE JERUSALEN=SAN MARCOS
"AGUJERO DE GUSANO MUNDIAL" ES VESICA PISCIS. NEXO CON EL CUBO
En diversos periodos de la historia ha sido tema de especulaciones místicas; probablemente los primeros fueron los Pitagóricos, que la consideraban una figura sagrada. La razón matemática de su anchura (medida por los puntos extremos del "cuerpo", sin incluir la "cola") por su altura fue aproximada por el cociente 265:153. Esta razón, que da 1,73203, se consideró un número sagrado llamado la medida del pez. Exactamente, la razón geométrica de estas dimensiones es la raíz cuadrada de 3, o 1,73205... (ya que si se traza la línea recta que une los centros de ambos círculos, junto con los dos puntos donde los círculos se intersecan, se obtienen dos triángulos equiláteros unidos por un lado). El cociente 265:153 es una aproximación a la raíz cuadrada de 3, y tiene la propiedad de que no se puede obtener ninguna aproximación mejor con números más pequeños. El número 153 aparece en el Evangelio de Juan (21:11) como el número de peces que Jesús hizo que se capturaran en la milagrosa captura de los peces, lo que algunos consideran como una referencia cifrada de las creencias pitagóricas.
APOCALIPSIS 21
NU-EVA J-ER-U-S-A-LE-N /JUAN
EVA (NUMERO NU-EVE)=MARIA MAGDALENA O MARIA LA GRANDE
JUAN MARCOS=SANTO GRIAL
9. Vino entonces a mí uno de los siete ángeles que tenían las siete copas llenas de las siete plagas postreras, y habló conmigo, diciendo: Ven acá, yo te mostraré la desposada, la esposa del Cordero. (Noten la relacion de la COPA CON LA ESPOSA DEL CORDERO)
10. Y me llevó en el Espíritu a un monte grande y alto, y me mostró la gran ciudad santa de Jerusalén, que descendía del cielo, de Dios,
11. teniendo la gloria de Dios. Y su fulgor era semejante al de una piedra preciosísima, como piedra de jaspe, diáfana como el cristal. (LA "GLORIA DE DIOS" es una clave sabatica en contexto a EXODO 24 Y 25. Se vuelve a repetir el patron del libro de EFESO EN SU CAPITULO 5.)
12. Tenía un muro grande y alto con doce puertas; y en las puertas, doce ángeles, y nombres inscritos, que son los de las doce tribus de los hijos de Israel;
13. al oriente tres puertas; al norte tres puertas; al sur tres puertas; al occidente tres puertas.
14. Y el muro de la ciudad tenía doce cimientos, y sobre ellos los doce nombres de los doce apóstoles del Cordero.
ESTRELLA DE DAVID ES LA ALQUIMIA, OSEA LA UNION ENTRE EL HOMBRE Y LA MUJER
  
(ABCD) Double Square in Solomons Temple
EL LUGAR SANTISIMO DEL TABERNACULO Y DEL TEMPLO DE SALOMON TENIA FORMA DE CUBO
NOTEN LA ESTRELLA DE 5 PUNTAS EN EL CENTRO DEL EXAGONO CENTRO DE LA ESTRELLA DE 6 PUNTAS
EL EXAGONO TAMBIEN ES UNA REFERENCIA AL CUBO.
NOTEN QUE EN ESTA ESTRELLA DE 6 PUNTAS HAY 13 TRIANGULOS DE 5 PUNTAS, OSEA QUE NOS DA UN NEXO CON LAS 12 CONSTELACIONES DEL ZODIACO, CON LAS 12 HORAS DEL DIA, CON LAS 12 LUNAS QUE HAY EN EL CALENDARIO, CON LA SANTA CENA EN EL CONTEXTO A LOS 12 APOSTOLES, CON LAS 12 TRIBUS DE ISRAEL, CON EL MERIDIANO DE GREENWICH E INCLUSO CON ROSE LINE, ETC,ETC. TODO TIENE COMO PATRON LA ESTRELLA DE 6 PUNTAS, OSEA LA UNION ENTRE EL HOMBRE Y LA MUJER QUE LA TRADICION RELIGIOSA "OLVIDO". ESTE ES EL PATRON ESOTERICO DETRAS DE APOCALIPSIS 22 EN SU RELACION CON VENUS.
Noten el MONSTRUOSO NUMERO 36, incluso con la FORMA DE ORION, en una estrella de 6 puntas. Son siete pelotitas, con 6 perimetrales. 6x6=36
AQUI ESTA EL ULTRA SECRETO DEL NEXO 666 CON LA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE, EN EL CODIGO DA VINCI. 1+2+3+ 4+5+6+7+8+9 +20+11+12+13 +14+15+16+17+18 +19+20+21+22+23 +24+25+ 26+27+28+29 +30+31 +32+33+ 34+35 +36=666
15. El que hablaba conmigo tenía una caña de medir, de oro, para medir la ciudad, sus puertas y su muro.
16. La ciudad se halla establecida en cuadro, y su longitud es igual a su anchura; y él midió la ciudad con la caña, doce mil estadios; la longitud, la altura y la anchura de ella son iguales. (LA CUBICACION DE UNA ESFERA. HAY UN OBVIO NEXO ALQUIMICO. LA GRAN CIUDAD ESTA DISEÑADA CON EL MISMO PATRON DE LA GRAN PIRAMIDE DE GIZE)
Figura 16. La relación geométrica entre el codo real y el metro.
LA CLAVE MATEMATICA ESTA EN LA ECUACION:
PI-(PHI ELEVADO AL CUADRADO)=CODO REAL
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3.1416-2.618=0.5236
CODO REAL=.5236
ESTE ES EL SECRETO DEL NEXO "ROSE LINE", EN EL CONTEXTO AL METRO Y EN EL CONTEXTO A LA PIRAMIDE DE LOUVRE.
17. Y midió su muro, ciento cuarenta y cuatro codos, de medida de hombre, la cual es de ángel.
21. Las doce puertas eran doce perlas; cada una de las puertas era una perla. Y la calle de la ciudad era de oro puro, transparente como vidrio.
22. Y no vi en ella templo; porque el Señor Dios Todopoderoso es el templo de ella, y el Cordero.
23. La ciudad no tiene necesidad de sol ni de luna que brillen en ella; porque la gloria de Dios la ilumina, y el Cordero es su lumbrera.
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INICIACIÓN A LOS NÚMEROS DE LA ARQUITECTURA O DE COMO DARLE FORMA A UN EDIFICIO
Los números pueden estar explicados matemáticamente en la “red” pero el problema que plantea el conocimiento de la arquitectura es: ¿cómo se le da forma con esos números a un edificio?. En arquitectura los números operan a partir de los polígonos estrellados formando concatenaciones, tal y como a continuación vamos a describir.
NÚMERO DE ORO - PENTÁGONO
El número de oro viene dado por la solución a la ecuación de segundo grado
x + x² = 1 x = 1+√5 /2 = 1,618033989
Propiedades 1/ 1,618 = 0,618 1,618... x 1,618... = 2,618...
Dado una circunferencia de radio 1 el lado del decágono inscrito en él es 0,618...
Dado un pentágono de lado 1, las diagonales de ese pentágono = 1,618...
La técnica con la que opera la arquitectura es la de las concatenaciones.
Una de ellas, la más usual, es la que presentamos en el dibujo. Si la circunferencia en color azul tiene R=1 el radio de la roja es R= 2,618, correspondiente a la que presentamos en “El vitruvio” de Leonardo da Vinci en la portada de este trabajo.
Se aplicará en la restitución de una tabla de F. Brunelleschi Nº 6.
 
NÚMERO DE PLATA - EL OCTÓGONO
Así como el número de oro está asociado a la √5 el número de plata está asociado a √2 y presenta una serie de propiedades similares a las del número de oro.
√2 = 1,414213562 tg. 22,5º = 0,414213562
tg.67,5º = 2,414213562
1/2,4142... = 0,4142... 2,4142... x 1,4142... = 3,4142...
Observa nuevamente la concatenación, esta vez con el octógono, de la circunferencia en color azul sobre la de color rojo.
Si el radio de la circunferencia azul es 1 la de color rojo es 2,4142....
Si el radio de la circunferencia azul es 0,4142... la de rojo es 1.
Aquí tenéis un ejemplo.
Se aplicará en la Rix House de J. Soane Nº 3.
NÚMERO DE PLATINO - EL HEXÁGONO
De igual forma que el número de oro está relacionado con la √5 y el de plata con la √2, el de platino lo va a estar con la √3
√3 = tg.60º = 1,732050808
1,732... x 2,732... = 4,732...
Combinación, esta, muy utilizada por Andrea Palladio.
Observa la concatenación de la circunferencia azul sobre la de rojo, a través del hexágono, directamente a la circunferencia azul. Si el radio de la circunferencia color azul es 1 el de la circunferencia en color rojo es 2 y el lado del triángulo inscrito es 2 x 1,732...
Este polígono es el más prolífico en la historia de arquitectura como vamos a verlo en los ejercicios.
Aquí tenéis un ejemplo.
Se aplicará al resto de los trabajos Nº 1 - 2 - 4 y 5.
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11 JUGADORES MAS EL TECNICO=12
11 JUGADORES MAS EL TECNICO=12
EL FUTBOL Y SU RELACION CON EL SANTO GRIAL
12:12 (12+12=24 HORAS)
HECHOS 12
486. Hechos 12:10: Habiendo pasado la primera y la segunda guardia, llegaron a la PUERTA de hierro que daba a la ciudad, la cual se les abrió por sí misma; y salidos, pasaron una calle, y luego el ángel se apartó de él.
12:11 Entonces Pedro, volviendo en sí, dijo: Ahora entiendo verdaderamente que el Señor ha enviado su ángel, y me ha librado de la mano de Herodes, y de todo lo que el pueblo de los judíos esperaba.
12:12 Y habiendo considerado esto, llegó a casa de María la madre de Juan, el que tenía por sobrenombre Marcos, donde muchos estaban reunidos orando.
487. Hechos 12:13: Cuando llamó Pedro a la PUERTA del patio, salió a escuchar una muchacha llamada Rode,
488. Hechos 12:14: la cual, cuando reconoció la voz de Pedro, de gozo no abrió la PUERTA, sino que corriendo adentro, dio la nueva de que Pedro estaba a la PUERTA.
GATE/PUERTA
HECHOS 12:12 (1+2:1+2/3:3)
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SANTA CENA (12 APOSTOLES EN EL CONTEXTO AL PAN Y AL VINO)=12+12=24 HORAS =SANTA MISA
TODOS LOS CAMINOS CONDUCEN A HECHOS 12:12
SAN MARCOS ES EL SANTO GRIAL.
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9 MESES DE GESTACION DE UN BEBE
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Mateo 8
1. Cuando descendió Jesús del monte, le seguía mucha gente. (Hay un paralelo a JUAN 8:1 cuando nuestro Señor tambien bajo del monte)
2. Y he aquí vino un leproso y se postró ante él, diciendo: Señor, si quieres, puedes limpiarme.
3. Jesús extendió la mano y le tocó, diciendo: Quiero; sé limpio. Y al instante su lepra desapareció.
4. Entonces Jesús le dijo: Mira, no lo digas a nadie; sino ve, muéstrate al sacerdote, y presenta la ofrenda que ordenó Moisés, para testimonio a ellos.
5. Entrando Jesús en Capernaum, vino a él un centurión, rogándole,
6. y diciendo: Señor, mi criado está postrado en casa, paralítico, gravemente atormentado.
7. Y Jesús le dijo: Yo iré y le sanaré.
8. Respondió el centurión y dijo: Señor, no soy digno de que entres bajo mi techo; solamente dí la palabra, y mi criado sanará. (Expresion que contestan los fieles cuando el cura corta la ostia y cruza las partes (vescica piscis/numero 153. EL CURA, en este contexto hace referencia a la expresion de Juan el Bautista "ESTE ES EL CORDERO DE DIOS QUE QUITA EL PECADO DEL MUNDO, FELICES LOS INVITADOS A LA CENA DEL SEÑOR" a la que luego los fieles respenden lo mismo que el CENTURION EN MATEO 8:8. LA OSTIA SIMBOLIZA A LA LUNA LLENA, OSEA A MARIA MAGDALENA, QUE ES EL CUERPO CRISTO SEGUN EFESIOS 5)
10. Al oírlo Jesús, se maravilló, y dijo a los que le seguían: De cierto os digo, que ni aun en Israel he hallado tanta fe. (AQUI ESTA LA CLAVE DEL "MISTERIO DE NUESTRA FE" DE LA MISA CATOLICA)
11. Y os digo que vendrán muchos del oriente y del occidente, y se sentarán con Abraham e Isaac y Jacob en el reino de los cielos;
12. mas los hijos del reino serán echados a las tinieblas de afuera; allí será el lloro y el crujir de dientes.
13. Entonces Jesús dijo al centurión: Ve, y como creíste, te sea hecho. Y su criado fue sanado en aquella misma hora.
14. Vino Jesús a casa de Pedro, y vio a la suegra de éste postrada en cama, con fiebre.
15. Y tocó su mano, y la fiebre la dejó; y ella se levantó, y les servía. (La "mano de DIOS". Observen el contexto)
16. Y cuando llegó la noche, trajeron a él muchos endemoniados; y con la palabra echó fuera a los demonios, y sanó a todos los enfermos;
17. para que se cumpliese lo dicho por el profeta Isaías, cuando dijo: El mismo tomó nuestras enfermedades, y llevó nuestras dolencias.
18. Viéndose Jesús rodeado de mucha gente, mandó pasar al otro lado.
19. Y vino un escriba y le dijo: Maestro, te seguiré adondequiera que vayas.
20. Jesús le dijo: Las zorras tienen guaridas, y las aves del cielo nidos; mas el Hijo del Hombre no tiene dónde recostar su cabeza. (La zorra, tiene fuerte relacion con la luna llena. ¿Se acuerdan de la serie "el Zorro"?. Es que amigo, esta todo calculado porque hay un DIOS TODOPODEROSO QUE MANEJA TODO PARA MALDICION DE LOS EGOLATRAS)
MICHAEL FOX="MAQUINA DEL TIEMPO"
FOX INCLUSO TAMBIEN ES UNA REFERENCIA AL "DIA DE JUAN EL BAUTISTA", OSEA EL 24/6
MICHAEL =GIORGIO=JORGE =GIORGIA (VENECIA)
miércoles, 9 de julio de 2008
 Había una vez un zorro muy joven, él ya no quiso vivir más en la casa de sus padres así que decidió dejarlos y vivir solo. Una noche cuando sus progenitores dormían, él preparó todo para irse. Salió a pie juntillas para no hacer ruido, abrió la puerta con mucho sigilo y después de atravesarla la cerró con mucho cuidado. Caminó tratando de no pisar la maleza seca que abundaba por ese lugar. La noche no estaba muy oscura, así que caminó todo lo que pudo, hasta que se cansó y se quedó dormido entre las grietas de una gran roca. Cuando amaneció, despertó sobresaltado, pues había olvidado que ya no estaba en su casa sino en el campo. Miró para todos lados, no reconocía el lugar, tampoco por donde había venido, subió hacia una pequeña loma tratando de divisar su casa, pero fue en vano, no logró ver nada, se asustó y se entristeció un poco. Luego pensó:
«Seguiré adelante, soy un zorro fuerte y mi padre me enseñó a cazar, no debo asustarme». Así que se puso en camino; después de un largo caminar vio a los lejos un bosque.
«¡Comida!», pensó, y se dirigió a ella corriendo con desesperación.
Llegó al bosque cansado y sediento, olfateó el aire y siguió su instinto animal, pronto encontró un riachuelo en donde bebió agua hasta saciarse. Luego de descansar un poco escuchó revolotear tiernos pichones, a los cuales comenzó a perseguirlos hasta alcanzarlos, los devoró y así satisfizo su hambre. El cansancio le hizo dormirse y durmió toda la tarde. Al despertarse era ya de noche y vio que sobre él se posaba una brillante luz, era la luna cuyos brazos de plata le cubrían, se sintió muy bien, miró a ver de dónde venía tan exquisita luz y luego de moverse un poco divisó entre el follaje de los altos árboles, a la luna, inmensa, bella, cautivante, radiante. Era una inmensa reina acompañada de otras más pequeñas, pero hermosas también que con rutilante brillo posaban junto a ella. El zorro quedó anonadado, su pecho se inflamó, sus sentidos quedaron paralizados por un instante y se sintió como flotando en el aire tibio de la noche, estaba enamorado. La volvió a mirar y suspiró.
 —Hola hermosa y bella luna, te pido que seas mi novia —le dijo a viva voz, ella no respondió—. ¿Qué pasa, por qué no me respondes? —le preguntó—, ¿será porque estás muy lejos?, eso no es problema mi dulce amada, te alcanzaré, escalaré la montaña en donde estás sentada y allí te hablaré de mi amor ¡Espérame!
El zorro corrió con todas sus fuerzas, contendió con la gravedad como nunca nadie antes lo había hecho, su amor le hizo superar muchos obstáculos y desafíos, que ningún ser osaría siquiera intentarlo. Por fin estuvo al pie de la montaña.
—Ahora subiré y te pediré que vivas conmigo para siempre, amada mía.
El zorro corrió cuesta arriba, estaba agotado, no podía más y aún le faltaba un largo trecho, pero siguió adelante, hizo un gran esfuerzo, llegó a la cumbre arrastrándose, totalmente agotado. Estando en la cima se paró sobre sus patas posteriores y alargando sus patitas delanteras la miró con dulzura y dio un salto hacia ella para abrazarla y besarla, pero no pudo alcanzarla, se dio cuenta que estaba aún más alta, entonces el zorro triste y cansado por el enorme sacrificio, murió.
La luna compasiva al ver lo que había hecho el zorro por su amor, lanzó sus brazos de fulgurante luz hacía él, y el cuerpo inerte del zorro comenzó a elevarse y a elevarse hasta que por fin cumplió su sueño de estar en los brazos de su amada luna.
Y colorín colorado, este cuento peruano se ha terminado.
Los cuentos de este blog forman parte de su libro "Uno y más cuentos de don Ernesto Phillips" (Ediciones Luz de Vida), que se encuentra a disposición del público en la Biblioteca Municipal de Huacho.
21. Otro de sus discípulos le dijo: Señor, permíteme que vaya primero y entierre a mi padre.
22. Jesús le dijo: Sígueme; deja que los muertos entierren a sus muertos.
LA LUNA LLENA/OSTIA/MATEO 8/ZOROBABEL
HAY UNA RELACION ESOTERICA ENTRE MATEO 8, CON EL ZORRO y la LUNA LLENA. NO ES CASUALIDAD QUE EN LA MISA CATOLICA SE DICE LA EXPRESION DE MATEO 8:8. EL SACRIFICIO DE LA MISA CATOLICA TAMBIEN TENDRIA NEXO ESOTERICO CON LA CREACION, EN EL CONTEXTO A LA LUNA LLENA. AMIGOS FORISTAS NO DEMONIZEN AL CATOLICISMO POR SUS ERRORES. ESTUDIEN LA GRAN PROFUNDIDAD ESOTERICA DE LA MISMA. EL DOMINGO CATOLICO (8VO DIA) ES UNA REFERENCIA ESOTERICA A LOS 8 DIAS DE LA CREACION. GENESIS 1:1 (LUNA LLENA) MAS LOS SIETE DIAS. EL VERDADERO CALENDARIO LUNI-SOLAR HEBREO ES CON REPOSO SEGUN LAS FASES DE LA LUNA CON LUNA NUEVA/ROSH JODESH EN LUNA LLENA E INCLUSO EL VERDADERO PENTECOSTES ES EN EL DIA NUMERO 119 DEL AÑO EN LUNA LLENA.
1. Sed, pues, imitadores de Dios como hijos amados.
2. Y andad en amor, como también Cristo nos amó, y se entregó a símismo por nosotros, ofrenda y sacrificio a Dios en olor fragante.
3. Pero , así como Cristo es cabeza de la iglesia, la cual es su cuerpo, y él es su Salvador. (La ANALOGIA IGLESIA/ESPOSA/CUERPO. ES OBVIO QUE EN ESTE CONTEXTO EL "CUERPO DE CRISTO/OSTIA/LUNA LLENA" ES SU ESPOSA MARIA MAGDALENA EN FUNCION A SALMOS 45:9. LA CRISTIANDAD DESGRACIADAMENTE INDUCE Y NIEGA QUE CRISTO FUE CASADO PERO EN EL CULTO CATOLICO, MUY AVANZADO ESOTERICAMENTE, IGUAL EL MENSAJE ESTA para los que estudian con profundidad. Pablo, en Efeso, adonde estaba la CITY DEL IMPERIO ROMANO e incluso estaba la sede del CULTO A DIANA/DENARIO hace referencia al "cuerpo de Cristo", que esotericamente sin prejuicios simboliza a su misma esposa que tambien simboliza a la iglesia. OSEA MARIA MAGDALENA ES SIMBOLO DE LA IGLESIA. ESE ES EL MENSAJE AQUI. LA IGLESIA MISOGENA MIMETIZADA CON LA FILOSOFIA GRIEGA OBVIO A SALMOS 45:9 ADONDE CLARAMENTE SE HACE REFERENCIA TAMBIEN A UNA REINA)
24. Así que, como la iglesia está sujeta a Cristo, así también las casadas lo estén a sus maridos en todo.
25. Maridos, amad a vuestras mujeres, así como Cristo amó a la iglesia, y se entregó a sí mismo por ella,
26. para santificarla, habiéndola purificado en el lavamiento del agua por la palabra,
32. Grande es este misterio; mas yo digo esto respecto de Cristo y de la iglesia. (Este es el "misterio de nuestra fe", que en contexto al centurion de Mateo 8, en el contexto a su gran fe, se HACE REFERENCIA EN EL SACRIFICIO DE LA MISA. EN REALIDAD LA OSTIA/LUNA LLENA ES LA MISMA MARIA MAGDALENA. Por ello, al final del culto catolico, el CANTICO ES CON REFERENCIA A MARIA. EL CULTO CATOLICO ES ESOTERICO. LA LUNA, EN FUNCION AL SUEÑO DE JOSE DE GENESIS 37, simboliza a su madre, osea RAQUEL, LA OVEJA, OSEA LA ESPOSA DE JACOB, EL SOL Y MADRE DE JOSE Y BENJAMIN. DETRAS DE ESTE RITUAL ESTA EL SECRETO TAMBIEN DE LA INDEPENDENCIA DE EEUU E INCLUSO TAMBIEN LA ARGENTINA EN LA QUINTA LUNA LLENA, OSEA EN EL DIA NUMERO 119. ESTE ES EL MENSAJE ESOTERICO DETRAS DE LA "MANO DE DIOS" DE MARADONA, QUE TAMBIEN FUE incluso en un contexto a un 22 de Junio de 1986 en luna llena.)
Por lo demás, cada uno de vosotros ame también a su mujer como a sí mismo; y la mujer respete a su marido.
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Originally Posted by mane  i'm curious--is the lack of recent posts in light of individual research efforts, which are too premature to present, or a slow in developments?
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In my case, it's both!!! Although I have made a few discoveries by looking at the Antithesis Nexus Key, I'm busy with college assignments again - arghh...
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Also, that PDF of Rodin's background stuff is worth studying - I'll get around to it eventually. More on the Dogon tip, I have ordered a copy of Budge's Hieroglyphic Dictionary after correctly placing all 42 major Khemetic deities within my current framework. I also noticed a couple of glaring errors in one of my tabulations, so I have to correct those throughout. And, since I'm getting on quite well with this Visual Basic malarkey at college I'll be designing an application soon. I've been reviewing material like...: I-Ching numerology (Alfred Huang); Partzuf system of Kabbalah (Bnei Baruch); Telektonon Revelation (Jose Arguelles)... etc ...with a view to extrapolation of what we have covered so far. I don't have many new diagrams yet, one I am working on is a possible link between Rodin's VBM and Hebrew Gematria. Rodin mentions Arabic Abjad numerals in his "Glossary", but not Hebrew. As far as I'm concerned, both are valid. I also noticed a new connection with the Dogon number of 266:266 = 153 + 113 = [(8 x 19) + 1] + [(6 x 19) - 1]There is mention of the number 153 in the Gospels regarding the miracles of one "Jesus the Christ". The Koran has 114 suras, but only 113 of them begin with the "Bismillah" invocation. This phrase contains 19 letters. Btw, the Koran states that Jesus is Christ, Messiah. These are not conflicting "systems" as far as I can see. I use the word "systems" because I want to avoid getting into a religious debate. I'm looking at this from a completely metaphysical standpoint - a logical, coherent, verifiable hermeneutical system. Other than that I don't have much else to share yet. I'd like to get into the "code19" stuff more deeply in the near future, and I found some interesting PDF's with some bits on balancing number totals in the Koranic suras. Again, I don't want to get people started on the whole "Bible Codes" thing, which to me is complete nonsense. I think they have been purposefully devisive - intended to cause confusion and a smokescreen to the real numerical codes, such as Rodin's VBM might make clear. I made an important discovery with the Tree of Life and its two main variations: the Cordovero "Tree of Emanation" and the Lurianic "Tree of Return". It has to do with the Nexus Key. The problem with my current "state of play" is that it's a bit too involved to get into on here, in which case I might just concentrate on finishing the article and then upload the whole thing. 2012 is looming on the horizon afterall!!! sadukan. PS The "code19" stuff seems like a natural progression of the MOD9 system into MOD19. In the last I watched of Rodin's he mentions that his system also works in "higher dimensions" - like MOD25 and MOD49!!! PPS I think it's time we 'Pulse some Atoms with a Flux Thruster' (as it were). I just reviewed some material - here - that gets into "code19" and the periodic table of elements - amazing stuff!!! PPPS We'll get there eventually - I'll try to remain optimistic in the face of adversity... " over it is 19"[74:30] ( DiYu - 18 Levels of Hell) Philip LeMarchand Wei-Qi
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1379 and another direct hit!
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The Lamp by Vernon Jenkins
Clearly, 37 and its companion 91 - both remarkable as numbers per se, as we have seen - feature strongly in the first eight words of the Scriptures! However, the account is not complete for we have yet to consider the numerical implications of the Creator's name as it is rendered in the Greek, nominative case, of both Septuagint and New Testament:
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The foregoing account identifies 37 and 91 as trifigurate numbers. In other words, each may be represented as a symmetrical arrangement of uniform counters in three distinct ways: 37, as hexagon, hexagram and octagon; 91, as triangle, hexagon and pyramid. This shared attribute of trifiguracy is neither bettered nor matched by any other natural number! Furthermore, 37 and 91 are related as difference and sum, respectively, of the cubes of 3 and 4.
In a denary context (familiar to all!) - and particularly in association with 3 and its multiples - this relationship is extended, and gives rise to many eye-catching curiosities that are particularly appealing to those seeking recreation through numbers. No other number, in this context, offers anything approaching the same degree of interest!
These observations are augmented by information from another quarter: Mr. J. Iuliano has drawn this author's attention to the following:
the number 37 is rooted in the double periodic modular forms of Fermat's Last Theorem;
an expression of the fine structure constant - ie the amplitude of an electron to emit or absorb a photon - involves 37, thus:
 http://freespace.virgin.net/vernon.jenkins/Symb.htm
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KEY 528=Swastika=ancient Spherical Standing Wave Theory
“A theory is more impressive the greater is the simplicity of its premise, the more different are the kinds of things it relates and the more extended its range of applicability…”
-Albert Einstein
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153 + 113 = 266 = 14 (wink wink nudge nudge) JeSuS the fisher of men, caught 153 fish off the right side of the boat. Why 153? And 153 = 9 ( nein oder JA?) (does the boat = the ark = spaceship earth?) A. This insane little illusion we all are witness too, uses 'right hand rules'... re: physics...113 = 5 (Roger Penrose AMONG other great thinkers, equates the number '5' with the human collective consciousness/unconsciousness, shall we say the concept of the number 5 = 5th element = quinteSSence? And here is another lovely coincidence*...my union used to be Local 113 however the local changed #113 to local #3888 in 1998 ... the year the 'celestial alignment' took place.  Was the fire department I belonged to ... embedded with 'freemasons'? *shhh there are no coincidences dude.
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Originally Posted by sadukan The Koran has 114 suras, but only 113 of them begin with the "Bismillah" invocation. This phrase contains 19 letters. Btw, the Koran states that Jesus is Christ, Messiah. These are not conflicting "systems" as far as I can see.
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19? hmmm what is CARD 19 of the Tarot?  all FIGURATIVE clues taken LITERALLY by the sheeple people... 114 Suras = 114 Gospels of Thomas or quotations/sayings of jesus himself?
stop ignoring my work college brat...  http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewto...228&highlight=
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me too... we appear to share similar insights...however...
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too bad, I do....there are many folks like ewe, and not enough of folks like mi. mi / me = FOLKS who challenge the NUMB and DUMB status quo. where the frequency mi = 528 hertz (and that is a fact) And I was born at 5:28 am? to you these coincidences appear as nonsense. to me ewe are a college brat with life lessons to learn... a college degree that produces more IGNORANT sheeple is nonsense...IMHO
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Originally Posted by sadukan I think they have been purposefully devisive - intended to cause confusion and a smokescreen to the real numerical codes, such as Rodin's VBM might make clear.
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of course. The EVIL dEVIL VEILs the TRUTH.  folks like ewe really should spend more time on my wordblog or reading the links I provide sadukan. http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewto...452&highlight=
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49 = 7 x 7 (for starters) = swastika ask any mason worth his alchemical salt... 25 = 52 (depends on your perspective...re: x, y, and z axis) sadukan's homework for tonight: read all these pages...especially my entries... http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic...1f3348&start=0
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yes we will ALL get there eventually. some before others.... been looking in the mirror I see? good. spend more time there...learning about x, y, z, and w? Personally I am very optimistic in all the adversity I encounter daily, courtesy of the shleeping sheeple. i.e. If you support the TRUTH, the TRUTH will support you. namaste
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www.newdawnbooks.info/.../THE_SCIENCE_OF_THE_DOGON.html
He feels that it permeates the Dogon culture and they had an intrinsic knack of ...
The Dogon figure of 266 seeds or signs appears to relate to particles we ...
www.goldenageproject.org.uk/966.php
The parallels between Dogon myth and science run deep. ... The spider of the
sene whose threads weave the 266 seeds of Amma, much as string theory tells ...
The basic creative impulse of the gods, from whom all of these particles emerged,
...
forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4579
Networking, sharing, re-connecting, RE-membering, there are a handful going
into this thing. The trick is creatively moving towards the right ...
https://books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=1594777780
This approximate number of particles—expected by Hawking to increase—
correlates well with the Dogon figure of 266 seeds or signs. Griaule and Dieterlen
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ashejournal.com/index.php?id=315
Dogon cosmology presents a rich and intricate genesis myth containing basic ...
self-aware and from Amma's egg issue forth particles that become matter. ... a
Dogon field drawing of the emanation of 266 primordial signs used planting
rituals.
https://books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=1594778892
From the Dogon and Ancient Egypt to India, Tibet, and China Laird Scranton ...
more fundamental particles, which the Dogon define as the 266 primordial seeds
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https://books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=1931882193
Like many other ancient cultures, the Dogon seem to have a cosmology based
on the ... tribal rituals, these symbols - of which there are 266 - are drawn on the
ground. ... quantum mechanics posits a little more than 200 fundamental particles
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www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?148-The...Dogon
I found it very interesting: The Science of the Dogon: Decoding the African ... to
see these symbols as likely references to particles and waves-the ... and a Dogon
field drawing of the emanation of 266 primordial signs used ...
https://books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=1620554453
For example, the Dogon flatly state that there are 266 fundamental particles of
matter. They define a forthright process by which waves of matter are said to be ...
https://books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=1594777535
Andso it isonly appropriate that the Egyptian god ofletters should
correlatetoquarks in quantumtheory and to the266 fundamental particles ofthe
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Sacred Mysteries of the Dogon
Review by Eric K. Lerner
The Science of the Dogon: Decoding the African Mystery Tradition (Inner Traditions, 2006, 224pp, $16.95 Buy From Amazon ) and Sacred Symbols of the Dogon: The Key to Advanced Science in the Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs (Inner Traditions, 2007, 272pp, $18.95 Buy From Amazon )
 Dogon cosmology presents a rich and intricate genesis myth containing basic archetypes that recur in religious thought throughout history. God Almighty, Amma becomes self-aware and from Amma’s egg issue forth particles that become matter. A trickster, Ogo, a fox, usurps Amma’s creation, which is redeemed by the bloody sacrifice of a primordial human ancestor, the Nommo, who is resurrected so the evolution of man can continue. Two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen, in The Pale Fox and Conversations with Ogotemmeli explored this sacred myth of Dogon culture in depth. Their work serves as inspiration for a pair of books by Laird Scranton: The Science of the Dogon: Decoding the African Mystery Tradition (Inner Traditions, 2006, 224pp, $16.95 Buy From Amazon) and Sacred Symbols of the Dogon: The Key to Advanced Science in the Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs (Inner Traditions, 2007, 272pp, $18.95 Buy From Amazon). Scranton argues that not only does Dogon cosmology echo better known mythologies, but that it precisely details specifics of modern scientific wisdom in oral descriptions and drawings documented by the French team.
Scranton may raise a few eyebrows because he openly admits that he has never experienced Dogon culture first hand. He is a computer programmer. In The Science of the Dogon, he writes “the most common task when writing a computer program involves the deliberate selection of symbols to represent concepts. For one programmer to successfully maintain the work of another, he or she must first learn to identify the intended meanings of the other programmer’s symbols. A good software designer also learns over time to incorporate clues to the meaning of a symbol into the form of the symbol itself.” That may seem an incredible way to justify one’s expertise to analyze a cosmology, but I find that aspect of his approach refreshing. Contemporary authors too often present books proclaiming authentic experience of esoteric realms that are little more than rehashes of obscure tomes. It’s nice to read someone who is honest and gets his footnotes straight.
His base assumption is that similar symbols reflect similar truths. This should be applied to cross currents between science and religion, just as it has been between cultural belief systems. The Science of the Dogon elegantly applies this to Dogon cosmology. For instance, Scranton provides an example between Dogon symbolism and quantum physics. After elaborating how the Dogon describe the formation of the universe from the opening of Amma’s egg and the elaboration of tiny seeds called “po,” Scranton writes:
Clearly what is being spoken of…is the formation of the building blocks of matter-atoms and their components. So, when we suggest possible meanings for the Dogon symbols that are related to atomic structure, the idea is wholly and completely in keeping with how the Dogon understand their own symbols. (In Dictinnnaire Dogon, Genevieve Calme-Griaule describes the po as “the image of the atom.”) However, if we look carefully, we can see that the surface story of the Dogon myth might also pointedly direct us to the concepts of quantum physics. Imagine for a moment that you must read an article written in a foreign language, that, for the most part, you do not understand. Then imagine the two words you do understand, supply and demand are repeated again and again within the passage. It would not take the insight of a genius to surmise that the subject of the article might be economics. The Dogon creation story provides us with a similar clue to its meaning with its recurring emphasis on pellets of clay and spiraling coils. It requires only a little imagination to see these symbols as likely references to particles and waves-the essential building blocks of quantum theory…[Here, he inserts a quote describing the dual nature of quantum particles.] Within the creation story we can see an implied knowledge of the wave properties of physics when the Dogon say that the fibers of the first garment mimic the sound of the voice of the Nommo, which tapers off in spiraling coils-a statement that betrays an understanding by the teller of the creation story that sound travels in waves.”
Not only does he draw correspondences between oral stories and scientific rhetoric, but also he examines visual similarities between contemporary scientific diagrams and Dogon religious symbols. One of the best examples of this is his comparison of a drawing of the vibratory pattern of strings from Brian Greene’s bestseller The Elegant Universe and a Dogon field drawing of the emanation of 266 primordial signs used planting rituals. They are virtually identical. Scranton writes. “Together the Dogon field Drawing along with Griaule’s statement about the vibrational nature of matter firmly link the Dogon symbols to their counterparts in string theory.”
Scranton identifies numerous points of consistency between contemporary science and Dogon cosmology. Throughout, he presents Dogon myth and symbols and juxtaposes with them with contemporary scientific theories or diagrams. He summarizes his approach:
The coherence of Dogon cosmology is upheld by a sensible, well defined system of symbolic storylines whose themes directly mirror the best modern scientific theories of how the universe and matter might have actually come to exist. The myths express themselves clearly and succinctly, so much so that the statements of the Dogon priests are often most easily understood in direct comparison with comparable statements from popular modern interpreters of science—authors of the caliber of Stephen Hawking, Brian Green and Richard Feynman. Our understanding of these statements by Dogon priest is guided and supported by important cosmological drawings that often appear in similar manner and take the form as related scientific diagrams.
An added value of The Science of the Dogon is that it makes an excellent Monarch Notes Guide to the latest scientific advances in Big Bang Theory, Quantum Physics, String Theory and DNA structure, particularly for those who may not be too inclined to pick up a scientific text. Indeed, while I was reading Science of the Dogon, I commented on the similarity between Dogon myth and String theory to an elderly santera, who was not formally educated. She asked me to explain string theory since she had heard it mentioned on television. I read Scranton’s summary of String theory to her. She looked at me with some disappointment and said, “I knew that fifty years ago. I was hoping that it was something new.” Her reaction illustrates one of the issues I have when the latest scientific theories are talked about in relationship to ancient non-white belief systems. Much of so called “high caliber science” simply seems to rehash sacred concepts to practitioners. I feel that Scranton’s work is valuable in proving that.
However, Scranton is of the opinion that Dogon cosmology indicates that ancient culture had somehow acquired specific highly technical scientific knowledge, possibly even from an extraterrestrial source. However, there is an alternate way to interpret the overlays. I believe that this consistency between myths and scientific theories, ancient symbols and scientific diagrams represents a perception hardwired into the human imagination, the collective unconscious. Consistencies between Dogon cosmology (and other ancient belief systems) and scientific development express consistent problem-solving approaches. They represent a thought process by which contemporary man experiences a basic urge to understand and systematize his place in the greater universe. This emerges from an integral level of consciousness to a symbolic level and eventually recollective level and thus contemporary man makes analytical symbols and statements consistent with his forefathers’ truths. I do not believe that the Dogon or other ancient peoples received science lessons from an outside source. The Dogon used similar motifs to modern scientists, because they felt a similar need to come to terms with “the big picture.” The imagery was embedded in their subconscious, just as it is in ours today. Like us, they thought and analyzed phenomena in a sophisticated, uniquely human manner.
Scranton does not limit his exploration of Dogon beliefs to their relationship to science. He explores how there are recurrent themes in Dogon myth and those in to Judaic, Sumerian, ancient Egyptian and other ancient cosmologies. Sympathies between Dogon and ancient Egyptian beliefs receive special attention. In addition to mythic similarities, he compares the construction of Dogon granaries and Egyptian pyramid building in The Science of the Dogon.
 The relationship between Dogon and ancient Egypt is expanded on in the subject of his next book, Sacred Symbols of the Dogon. Here Scranton emphasizes Egyptian hieroglyphs rather than Dogon cosmology in much of the book. In Symbols he concentrates on showing that Egyptian hieroglyphs codify String theory and Quantum physics, and that this forms a chain between Egyptian and Dogon culture. In most of the volume he illustrates parallels between symbols used by contemporary scientists and hieroglyphs. The Egypt material takes up more of the volume than Dogon.
Scranton cites Sir A.E. Wallis Budge as his primary source on Egyptian language in both books. Budge has fallen out of favor with contemporary Egyptologists primarily because of the phonetic values he assigned to hieroglyphs. Scranton bases his preference for Budge on the theory that Budge’s phonetic values for ancient Egyptian language are similar to those in the still spoken language of the Dogon. Interestingly J. Olumide Lucas stated a similar case for parallels between Budge’s Egyptian phonetics and those of the Yoruba people, who like the Dogon, are of West Sub Sahara Africa, in The Religion of the Yorubas some 80 years ago. Lucas delineated how the Yoruba linguistically assimilated Egyptian god names into the names of their own orisha. Perhaps such similarity between Budge’s phonetics and those of another West African people further validate Scranton’s decision. (Budge in his study of Osiris, Volume I, argued that Ancient Egyptian beliefs permeated those of sub-Saharan Africa. He did not cite the Dogon and differed from Lucas in his choices of correspondences between Egyptian deities and orisha in many instances.)
Scranton outlines his approach:
We began with a well defined set of Dogon words and symbols, whose symbolic meaning were simply overlaid on matching Egyptian words and glyphs. The legitimacy of this process is borne out by the many persistent resemblances that color most other aspects of Dogon and Egyptian culture. Support for the soundness of this approach is also found in Sir E. A. Wallis Budge’s An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, which provides us with consistent validation of correspondences between Dogon and Egyptian words and symbols. The Dictionnaire Dogon by Genevieve Calame-Griaule also specifically validates Budge’s definitions and pronunciations of Egyptian words that are similar to those in the Dogon language. So from the very start, we can be confident that our interpretations are based on cross-confirming set of independent sources.
The more we work with Egyptian glyphs and defining words, the more aware we become of a recurring pattern involving these glyphs and words. Although only a subset of Egyptian glyphs can be said to have a directly assigned phonetic value, examples how that this subset seems to include many of the same glyphs that we believe define key components in the structure of matter. First among these is the flying goose glyph which we associate with atom-the counterpart of the mythological po of the Dogon. In Budge’s view of the Egyptian language, this glyph carries the pronunciation of “pa,” the same pronunciation as the Egyptian word pa, which means “to be, to exist.” There is a likely corresponding Egyptian god named Pau, who is defined by Budge as a “god of existence.” A similar relationship between the glyph’s phonetic value and a deity name appears with the oval glyph …, which, based on its appearance in various Egyptian words can be seen as a symbol for proton, neutrons and electrons. Budge assigns a phonetic value of “seb” to this glyph, a value that is a likely correlate to the Dogon word sene. He defines a similar Egyptian word, Senu which refers to ”a company of gods,”
Scranton excels in pattern recognition and makes cogent claims for similarities between Egyptian hieroglyphics and scientific symbols. He draws parallels between actual hieroglyphics and diagrammatic illustrations of quantum physics and string theory principles. He offers alternate definitions of hieroglyphs and compound hieroglyphs in which he finds such similarities.
Here I have a problem. He develops these meanings from the way the hieroglyphs appear and are vocalized in Budge’s hieroglyphic dictionary and their similarities to Dogon words, rather than the way they appear in use in papyrus and pyramid texts. He uses the Dogon cognate and its use to justify the new meaning he assigns, rather than show how the new meaning for the hieroglyph or compound hieroglyphs work in their native context. At one point Scranton suggests that his interpretations might be substantiated by an examination of The Egyptian Book of the Dead. To test the validity of Scranton’s thesis, I secured a facsimile copy of The Book of the Dead and a couple of primers on Egyptian language. (I really hope Scranton has a piece of Amazon.com stock.) I feel that if he is going to argue that single and compound hieroglyphs held specific scientific meaning for the ancient Egyptians, he should be able to show these used in context where they make full statements of scientific principles he says they mean.
Trying to decipher hieroglyphic texts is involved and time consuming. The Book of the Dead (a.k.a., The Book Of Coming Forth By Day, the extant facsimile version being also called the Papyrus of Ani, a specific extant version housed in the British Museum) has its hieroglyphs arranged in columns arranged from top to bottom. In some cases they are read from left to right and in others from right to left, and they may be read in special cases bottom to top! (The scanning orders in which these are read vary according to the subject matter of the passage. They may also vary according to the competency of the scribe who was trying to make sure he squeezed enough symbols onto a given sheet of papyrus.) Also in some places the phrases and sentences are read horizontally left to right and right to left. Most extant ancient Egyptian documents seem to contain multiple examples of each type of scanning. Individual sections also contain puns should the reader wish to also read the text in one of the alternate scanning patterns. Plus the hieroglyphs resemble and embellish illustrations to which they appear in proximity. (Is it not pathetic the mind numbing activities the old and infirm find when trying to idle away their summer vacations?)
Hieroglyphs that Scranton redefines should logically appear in close proximity to one another in order to form meaningful statements together. In the Papyrus of Ani version of the Book of the Dead, there was only one small section concerning the transformation of the soul into various animal forms where enough of them appeared consistently in close proximity in such a manner to possibly do so. That is certainly not the majority of the text or examples of the cited hieroglyphs’ uses throughout it. (Albeit, I was getting a little bleary eyed, and there are numerous criticisms of the Papyrus of Ani being as inferior textual rendition of an esoteric text.)
If Scranton wants to make this type of argument, he really needs to show examples of how these selected symbols work together in a coherent manner in extant texts. Rather than show how the new scientific meanings he advocates are validated by contextual examples in their original use, Scranton focuses on showing how the potential Dogon cognates overlay scientific explanations in the correct logical manner. To prove that the ancient Egyptians codified complex scientific concepts in their language and that there exists an unbroken transmission between theirs and Dogon, he needs to show both! A likely consistency in phonetic values is not enough, particularly when that is also subject to disagreement. I respect the effort that he has made with hieroglyphs, but there are ample examples of complete texts that he could use to fully test his assertions.
It is tempting to be seduced by the glamour of ancient Egyptian artifacts and to use them to support your own rationales and values. Philosophers, writers and artists have done so since Plato’s time. But the temptation to do so here leaves Scranton’s case half-made. That undermines the integrity of his other thought provoking analysis. It is worthwhile to read Scranton’s take on Dogon cosmology, especially The Science of the Dogon, which recognizes and analyses how complex concepts are given voice in a systematic manner by an African people. Scranton amplifies the important work done by Giraule and Dieterlen years earlier. I enjoyed reading The Symbols of the Dogon, and especially liked his analysis of the Dogon Nommo drawing and diagrammatic analysis of similarities between a Buddhist stupa and the Dogon granary. Here Scranton accomplishes what he does best, performing straight up interpretation from the perspective of an intelligent observer. However, he needed to do more work on hieroglyphics to justify the main thrust of his argument. He could have done that by providing contextual examples from primary Egyptian sources. Scranton is a lucid writer who articulates both scientific and cosmological concepts exceedingly well, and is transparent in his methodology. He amply demonstrates the skill set to perform such a demanding analysis, and I hope he continues further with his work.
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Because we are going to need to figure out how to 'transit' from one magic square to the next?
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Done. Though, I'm waiting for Lee to come back and explain more about the I-Ching. He seems busy though, I don't want to rush it. Plus I already have the hexagrams down in my scheme, so his insights should match up. In fact, that is what amazed me about the Kabbalah course I took last year. I realised that most of the structure they were describing was what I already had in prototype, and it helped me to fill in some of the gaps. Here's a graphic I made to help anyone who doesn't get what Lee's stuff is doing:  It's not exhaustive by any means, and just shows what is going on at a basic level in terms of "phase space". A "phase space" is like a stack of time slices such that the time dimension is shown as a complete unit, so that it is possible to move forwards as well as backwards through the sequence. I hope this is straightforward enough for everyone, I've only shown 4 of the 8-spoke dharma wheels, the other set is the complement of its polar pair with a central point reflection to its opposite location. The set I have shown is the "+1" set, formed by adding "1" to each successive tile of the previous 3x3 tile - represented as the spokes as they grow, forming a new 3x3 tile. At the same time, as this is "phase space", the previous 3x3 tile is "remembered" in the spoke sequence. I colour coded it according to one of Lee's many graphics of the HeTu/HoTu. I've also been reading Alfred Huang's "Numerology of the I-Ching", as background info. According to the blurb, Alfred lives on Hawaii, so he may even know Marko and Nassim. @Ralph, glad to see some more of your interpretations and questions. I'm not really that bothered about my artwork, the only part I was annoyed about was that you could have linked to my gallery (which I wouldn't have minded). Anyhow, my 4 "Royal" Stars are my own designation because of the "King's/Queen's" chambers in the Great Pyramid - not because I read them in a book (as such). Evenso, I made clear I was not replacing your own suggestion of the 4 Persian Royal Stars. I related that info almost as a joke in imitation of you - and your reaction was the same as that which you accuse the rest of us as being (yes, the "I" word). Plus, I noticed you are now hailing Robert Bauval's theory on other threads. Sorry, but I find that amusing. Learning to spot hypocrisy is a way to refine the character, by applying it to yourself. And, no - I have not ignored your stuff, I just wanted you to explain more about it. You have begun to do so - thanks. Ironically, my "4 Stars" thing might have some merit. @Riseball, D-RA-CO... meaning "dragon". "Ra"/Re was a Dragon/Serpent deity. More on "Dragons" - here. In fact the sanskrit "Surya" (Sun) is su-rya, and in Japan "Ryu" means "dragon". In China the Suryavanshi Clan is known as "Yu" (the "fish" that turns into a dragon). RA/RE/RYA/RYU/YU, is the same "serpent"/"dragon" SOLAR entity/conception. Remember, the Surya Yantra is also cognate with the LoShu. @Ralph, As far as my "re-hash" accusation goes, A E Waite's Tarot deck was composed in the early 20th century, Freemason or not. I'm part of a Yahoo Group which is into these kinds of things, and they recently posted something about a deck of 88 cards which predates the "modern" Tarot. I'm not saying Waite's Tarot is "wrong", I'm just saying it is predated by older systems. I have a challenge for you Ralph, see what you can find out about a deck of 144 cards (it matches your "4 Ages" model btw). We've been playing "Cluedo" ever since you arrived, now it's your turn! As for the Dogon connection, I mentioned in an earlier post that it was identical to John Opsopaus's Pythagorean Tarot system. Keep up buddy! Also, Ed will confirm that there are many more than 16 particles up for grabs. There are currently 226 confirmed particles. Garrett Lisi (surfer dude and fizzycyst) predicts 22 new particles, for a total of 248 - matching E8. The Dogon "Magic Number" is 266. This is where Lee's stuff gets interesting (for me anyway), because as Barbitone and Lee were discussing there is a pattern of 19 and 6. 19x6=114 (suras of the koran) 19x8=152 (????) 19x14=266 Interesting, no...? The koran is also coded throughout with "19" and also prime numbers. How about this: 113+153=266...? (113 pre-fixed suras, and 153 fish in the Gospel of John) Also, no need to worry - I don't babble about bibles, though I do have an Interlinear for reference purposes. I have also already worked out the 10x10 square - Malkuth. sadukan. PS - 11x11 is usually attributed to Daath. [74:30] " over it is 19" AAalayh a(by) tisAAata(9) AAashara(10) [94:5-6] Al-sharh (" Osiris") Al-Nitak, Sirius, Kochab, Thuban DiYu - 18 Levels of Hell Philip LeMarchand
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great I love it the 5x5 caught my eye, along with the 3x3 SATOR/ROTAS of course keep up the good work you are far from done Here let me provide a CLUE of what you need to do now? Please try to find an OLD not NEW depiction of what is known as the CABLE TOW, a symbol that any FREEMASON worth his salt, mercury and sulfur should be aware of. Find an OLD symbol of the CABLE TOW, not the new one dispensed to the FREEMASON sheeple. WHY? Then match up this 'image' with the images you posted above...and ewe, you and u, will be on vay to a higher understanding of why you have been sucked into the VBM vortex. Can we connect the CABLE TOW = DNA = Caduceus? The CABLE TOW I can trace to the NEO-lithic CULTures, circa 4500+ BC that had settlements in places like Jericho, Nineveh and of course St. Paul's hometown of Tarsus.
The VINCA script of 4500BC-10,000 BC? exposes not only the bible babble RUSE but also the FREEMASON one too.
Puts them on the SAME PAGE.
Also why do you not have any EVEN MAGIC SQUARES depicted? 4x4 6x6 8x8
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In phase and out of phase ... to be or not to be ... those are the questions. 2012 and all other 'turning points' in our history are all about 3 RESULTS that can happen when waves collide.
Folks are stuck on worlds colliding i.e. Nibiru My feeling is that Nibiru has more to do with DNA than a rogue planet.read please: http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...crossing-over/What if it is the TRIUNE/TRINITY of WAVES arriving from space that we cannot see that can do us harm or good?1/ Brahma creator wave
2/ Siva destroyer wave
3/ Vishnu is the preserver/maintainer waveIt is obvious to me that, the father, son, holy ghost, jesus, aliens, UFOs, etc. comprise the nonsense that keeps us distracted from this simple fact of life.
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A "phase space" is like a stack of time slices such that the time dimension is shown as a complete unit, so that it is possible to move forwards as well as backwards through the sequence.
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so please explain how phase space makes it possible to move forward or backward.
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I've also been reading Alfred Huang's "Numerology of the I-Ching", as background info. According to the blurb, Alfred lives on Hawaii, so he may even know Marko and Nassim.
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here is what I do to the I-Ching that separates me from the rest of the followers who lack imagination. I 'REVERSE ENGINEER' symbols. Thus we trace the I-Ching >>> Lo-shu >>> yin yang >>> 12,000 year old swastika eventually. And those living arrangements are temporary. that was then this is now I thought Marko moved to southern California? Did you know that *528 guru Dr. Leonard Horowitz* the Knight of Malta member, was Marko's neighbor in Hawaii?think about that..... Is NaSSim being 'groomed' as the next blah blah spokesman? who is shleeping with who in the world to cum?
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the info I need to make the interpretations have been arriving daily I never ever take 'classes' sadukan maybe YOU should respect that fact of life dude I do not need to at this time, take classes The teacher is with me 24/7 And clearly I should be a 'teacher' myself. Actually I am now holding court and teaching other folks what I 'know' in my home, using my garden, where I built a labyrinth, to be used as a living learning tool, sharing with folks what I have been remembering about the simple truths that have been VEILeD. Maybe one day you might find yourself sitting in the front row or walking one of my labyrinths sadukan.
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like I thought pick a new designation dude I DEMAND your ego find a new name for your little theory. The name 4 ROYAL STARS should remain intact and clear for anybody on the path to enlightenment. YOUR IGNORANT DESIGNATION ONLY CONFUSES THE SHEEPLE WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO FOLLOW THE CLUES OUTTA HERE. 
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4 ROYAL STARS = 4 EVANGELISTS = 4 GOSPEL nonsense taken far too LITERALLY, thus the FIGURATIVE meaning has been lost, sadly this perversion of the TRUTH is all it took to lead the ignorant JC bible babblers by the ring in their nose. In other words for the religious and science plebes on this thread who have shown some interest in VBM...here is what the IGNORANT really really need to know and understand if you want to CIRCUMVENT all the bullshit we are being told and sold as GOSPEL TRUTH.
4 GOSPELS = 4 ROYAL STARS in 4 Constellations sitting on the ECLIPTIC, NOT to be confused with the sAINT's who came marching in as the 4 EVANGELISTSsorry for shouting but folks seem deaf dumb and blind in understanding the PRIMARY IMPORTANCE of this undeniable fact. IT IS THE FIRST STEP in helping to unlock the mind games being perpetrated. THAT IS WHY SADUKAN COSMOLOGY IS A CRIME against the persons reading his crap! And folks who do not want to accept that declaration from me as the GOSPEL TRUTH, may as well put me on IGNORE RIGHT NOW!! For those of you who have not put me on ignore and want to know more... WHY THOSE 4 ROYAL STARS are important to the bigger picture...1/ http://www.tenspheres.com/researches/fourstars.htm2/ http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...000-years-old/
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yes the trickster within sadukan + ignorance + sadukan humor "I" do not appreciate you are the joke = you are IGNORANT dead to the creation dude. VBM alone will not help get you, ewe, or u out of Aridne's amaZing maZe.
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Yes I made a reference, I was not hailing the king, I was merely pointing folks in the direction of his work, to his dating of the pyramid alignment to around 10,000 BC duh your point is? what kind of evidence can sadukan offer that we can trace back to 10,000 BC to support all he spews? duh dude again EWE fail to see the inherent poeTREE woven into the text.Swastika in the orient is associated with the number 10,000 
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clever sadukan, though his posts are evidence of something, but what? sadukan has yet to prove to me he is alive within the heART of the creator, and not one of the walking/talking VBM zombies who can be found on any VBM thread. Only one Raphahell I know of on the internet delivering a message, that very few of ewe want to rally around. Come dance around my maypole sadukan. I have nicknamed my maypole, st. johnny holmes So who among you wants to be baptized by sAIN'T johnny holmes or a cattle prod? moove along now .... SWASTIKA = THEORY OF EVERYTHINGThis symbol is CLEARLY the KEY to Universal Movement But negating 2000 years of biblical bullshit along with the past 200 years of science bullshit is no easy task as I have come to learn.
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AH YES IT IS ALL ABOUT MY CHARACTER and learning to spot folk's spots or paint em' with a stripe, how about etching numbers on their arms or awarding them a GOLD STAR of David? that is the common denominator the IGNORANT mob can rally around eh? see spot run, watch the IGNORANT Dicks, king Richard the lyin' hearted KILL the JAIN? Please do not attempt to explain 'my stuff' stick to your own stuff, though it is lacking in the bigger picture. Duh sadukan and most folks are eating from the Tree of Knowledge. I eat fruit from all 3 trees I have found thus far in the archetypal eden. Tree of Knowledge, Tree of Life, and of course the PoeTREE.
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the sooner you realize the importance of the 4 ROYAL STARS and their connection to the big picture, the sooner EWE will find the 'gate/lock' dude, to the paddock/padlock that has ensnared your MIND!
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all folks gotta know this all cultures revered the SNAKE/SERPENT Christianity TWISTED the SERPENT into an EVIL premise. WHY? Duh go back to those 3 WAVEFORMS dude.
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I'm part of a Yahoo Group which is into these kinds of things....
...deck was composed in the early 20th century, Freemason or not.
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YAHOO!!! IGNORANCE knows no bounds I wonder how many YAHOOs read the Freemason info I have at my disposal and BLEND it into a recognizable TRUTH, that quite frankly lacks any need for embracing FAITH? my use of the word "I" bothers IGNORANT sadukan eh? ok then, somebody with real vision should be entitled to say.... "EYE" have 10 different Tarot books written by 10 different authors in my library.
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duh how about a link? talk is CHEAP.
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I have a challenge for you Ralph, see what you can find out about a deck of 144 cards (it matches your "4 Ages" model btw).
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dude why don't EWE, or one of your YAHOO buddies. I have a date with destiny....if my guide feels it necessary, I will be lead to the 144. Hey maybe my guide is speaking through EWE, YOU and U?
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So this means the FRAUD is staying? My challenge to sadukan who was clueless about the 4 ROYAL STARs? Duh do not pretend you have mastered the 4 ROYAL STARS, or pretend to be as enlightened by them as I have been. like I said, ewe still have much to learn, though you are no dummy...you need to learn to sift through all that crap you have been accumulating.
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I am not totally IGNORANT of the Dogon dude. Glad you/my guide keep bringing it up. Let me share more inspiration that came to me years ago. And at the end of these moments when the info just flows from my inner being, eye always ask myself, what is the source of this knowledge? http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...xyandzaxis.jpgDogon Cosmic Egghttp://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...on-cosmic-egg/So maybe it is time that I put the Dogon Cosmic Egg, into a context that includes all I have learned since?
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be more specific would love a link
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266 = 14 stations of the cross dude? maybe been there seen it done it in regards to Garrett Lisi. another 'symmetry plebe' who is IGNORANT of my archetypal studies and insights. here is something we (my daemon and me) wrote together back in 2007 when E8 was first heralded as 'the theory of everything' http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...e-e8-symmetry/Yes I would say to ED that we can take the HIGGS BOSON and find a total of NINE particles.pay attention sadukan YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY ME...like you do the KA BAA LALALA masters you love to reBLEAT. 5 x 5 Rotas Square (why do I prefer to call it ROTAS instead of SATOR?)9 squares comprises the CROSS composed of the letters TENET. TENET means to hold. To hold = 'MAGICAL 9' letters. But really the 9 is only 3. Can I associate these 3 letters to the word TEN or NET? Depends which way we flow, err, I mean read the TEXT, err I mean the WEAVE? THUS GRAVITY/secrets we are trying to unlock are associated with the Square CROSS within the Rotas Square. The other 16 squares = 4x4 isolated are the 16 particles. But hey the REAL LEAP of enlightenment is when we do something real simple again folks. COMPARE ALL I JUST OFFERED TO CYMATICS!!!!!!!!1 What does CYMATICS TELL US ABOUT why some particles VIBE into a CROSS or other significant shapes and forms. YES WE DID WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT CYMATICS AND SIMPLE TRUTHS that IGNORANT folks FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE...like sadukan. go here: http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...ngs-had-horns/sadukan though he appears one of the brightest lights on this thread, he could in fact be the most lost and confused, actually helping to lead folks astray with his bright light? DUH YES!!
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Originally Posted by sadukan This is where Lee's stuff gets interesting (for me anyway), because as Barbitone and Lee were discussing there is a pattern of 19 and 6.
19x6=114 (suras of the koran)
19x8=152 (????)
19x14=266
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sorry for me... NO it is not. but never ever say never
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well that I took notice of. 113 was my former union number as firefighter...then it was changed to 3888. 153 = 17 x 9DUDEs who love to feud using IGNORANCE, a reminder is in order... Please don't forget 'eye' am the former firefighter, who had the employee numbers, first, 52801, later replaced in the year of the galactic alignment (1998) with 8013522, born at 5:28 am on 3/7, 1957 (reduces to 22), issued the badge 1258 who was in fact woken up by 911, only to reveal to the world, after going into such dark, scary HOT places, that the two opposite rotating swastikas placed over each other form the maltese cross, the international,global sign of the firefighter. Theseus followed Aridne's thread out of the maze, after he defeated the Minotaur, in the cretan labyrinth....firefighters if they get into trouble, follow the hose line out. NOW after 9 years I must conclude that the swastikas/maltese cross is that object in plain view folks do not see...that is the object I have returned with from the heART of the Labyrinth. These symbols, the swastika/maltese cross represent vortex energy, necessary for the LIGHT and SOUND show, etc., obviously intimately connected to the creation process and the inner NATURE we should nurture? DUH in other words, DUH how would THEY veil these processes of NATURE? The folks who KNOW THE PATTERNS? DUH it cannot be done, how do you VEIL a whirlpool or the sunflower, or the pine cone, or or or or duh with jesus christ rhetoric, and aliens and and and other bullshit that serves only to divide the square into 4 corners, divided by the square cross? thrice duh, duh, duh Like I keep saying fella EWE are dead, dead, dead to the creation, VBM is only CPR. EYE, however have been woken up, and given vision, AND the voice is just starting to be heard. And Ed Witten needs to hear it. NOT EWE, you just take my offerings and dilute the meanings to fit sadukan cosmology seen in his own image? Has the repetitive nature of history not taught any of EWE about the PATTERNS??????? Go see a shrink and learn about your pathetic PATTERNS folks. things can only get better.
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Also, no need to worry - I don't babble about bibles, though I do have an Interlinear for reference purposes.
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dude there is bible babble, science babble and VBM babble. nothing seems sacred any longer. The TOWER of Babel shall fall once again.
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sadukan.
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hey Lee Daath is also associated with the letter GIMEL, letter #3, AND the number 13 ... Duh Sadukan fill in LEE about the tree of life, he is apparently IGNORANT of, afterall he fills ewe up with his spew, it is the least you could do for your guru buddy, who has been *kicked* out of my temple called inspiration. sadukans biggest problem is he does not respect me Lee's problem is, as his last post showed in making a reference to me, is that he lacks balls, the wankers/mob over at the Hancock site ganged up on me, Lee who I inspired evidently, did not defend me in his posts, did not take a stand, he only took my thoughts and then watched me flounder. IGNORANCE operates just like that. it goes all downhill from there namaste
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@ sadukan: whose opinion? mine? I am glad its not just my opinion and academics that get published have such opinions. sadukan have you been published as of yet? opinions are dime a dozen. get published sadukan then at least your opinion can carry some weight. why the smoke screen? you sense i am using one? wikipedia: A smoke screen is smoke released to mask the movement or location of military units such as infantry, tanks, aircraft or ships. ...dude, are we @ war and i didn't know? i offered you a gift based upon the Holy 19. I offered another connection with the ascension process of the Prophet Muhammed, the Miraj. Did you count the steps to paradise in that beautiful work of art that the Persians left for us? Whats the connection with 19? Can we enter paradise together? to your ego and not your jivatman sadukan here is my analysis of your latest symbolic art work: I think your diagram without any explanation is a smoke screen. Putting your gurus in bold in the second line and even mentioning Ralph, lol. But of course he should be mentioned with all the pitty little guys that u seek their attention and approval, not the likes of your primary gurus typed in bold: MARKO RODIN, LEE BURTON and LALEH BAKHTIAR .All in BOLD, for everyone to see your ego, and putting the rune symbols @ the cornerS, envokating the runes and then blending it with your avatar @ other corners. What type of ego is that sadukan? Dude if you got something to add that can simplify things and brings a coherent chunk of knowledge for everyone to share do so, we all appreciate it. Like how Lee is open with his findings and very willing to further elaborate his model with tons and tons of 3D rendering. Or riseball whom stayed up all night few nights in a row to crunch-up the Meru Codes, or jtstatic helping mi find those 3 SSS with the asymmetry the lurked within Lee's symmetrical matrix, or Barbitone who is researching and archiving. I my self am doing research 24/7. Seeking truth through the Numbers. I have identified 37 and i have linked it to 27. 37 x 3 = 111 = Solfeggio 37 x 27 = 999 37 = The harvest that needs no sowing 37 has let me to Tibetan Cosmology. 37 has let me to 64. Sadukan whats the relation of 17, 27, and 37? 17 x 9 = 153 27 x 9 = 243 37 x 9 = 333 333 - 153 = 180 333 - 243 = 90 leaps of 90 17 + 27 + 37 = 81 81 x 9 = 729 now regarding 153 and Ralph's theory: I wish he was here as i don't want to misquote him, but here he already made a reminder to u sadukan regarding 153:
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well that I took notice of.
113 was my former union number as firefighter...then it was changed to 3888.
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@ vbmers:please be ware of the significance of 153 and its correct calculations and significance: 17 x 9 = 153 153 = 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17, or sum(17). 17 is what is called a "triangular number." If you add the numbers 1 through 17 to each other you get 153. This is what is known as the ancient "pebble count" way of counting. If we take the 153 "pebble count" triangular base with 17 "pebble count" sides and build up to the final cap-stone: The total pebble count is 969 and it builds, not a pyramid, but an equilateral tetrahedron: A four sided object with three equal triangular sides meeting at an apex and a fourth equal side as its triangular base.  This is the equilateral tetrahedron which represents the New Jerusalem Temple: "The 17, 153, 969 Qodesh-Temple of Yeshua."The 17 layers of the Tetrahedron from the One "Capstone" to the "153" base: If we take the 153 "pebble count" triangular base with 17 "pebble count" sides and build up to the final cap-stone: The total pebble count is 969 and it builds, not a pyramid, but an equilateral tetrahedron: A four sided object with three equal triangular sides meeting at an apex and a fourth equal side as its triangular base. This is the equilateral tetrahedron which represents the New Jerusalem Temple: So we have in Methuselah, (living 969 years,) a portrait of the completed New Temple of Yeshua, the base of which was prophesied when Peter caught the 153 fishes. It is perfect in math, and in the perfect Word, and placed there by the Holy Spirit of G-d. No man could have designed such an outcome in any book, written by any man, or group of men, ever in the history of all time. @ sadukan: Now onto your diagram: The tools used by your primary gurus the 4 NAMES that you mentioned tools being: vbm (Marko), Lo shu (Lee) , Ennegram (Laleh), the 4th guru of yours i am not familiar thus i don't know his tool, maybe you can enlighten us as to your system and diagram or your other diagram that your cried over because Ralph posted it what you call your eye of Horus.
Dude were you high on shrooms when you drew that and now you can't make sense of it yourself? Is that why you don't elaborate on your art work?Regarding our friend Jose Arguelles Mayan Factor Calender, oh i am so very very glad you brought up the subject. That will be the subject of my next post and your base20. Namaste, MihrYazd
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