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General: ¿QUE NOS QUIERE DECIR EL TODOPODEROSO DETRAS DEL NUMERO NUEVE?
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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 25/02/2016 17:09
Some cool patterns in there Mane, hope you don't mind.



Reminds me of the 8-magic star http://www.magic-squares.net/order8.htm
or the Tesseract you linked. 





Quote:
VIRGIN MARY 13th Century Monastic Symbols = SEED PATTERN?
Raph your post kinda freaked me out today, I just happened to be looking at some very old photo's of Bohemian grove from 1906 ( like right when you made your post) and right there in the lower left on the flag, what's that look like.

http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0025295A.jpg

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37 or 73
(search those numbers out)
I just started a small company called 73 about 5 months ago.

Quote:
DNA gives the amino acids their GOOSE-stepping orders?
DNA has palindrome formations, a lot on the Y chromosome.
From wiki: A palindrome structure allows the Y chromosome to repair itself by bending over at the middle if one side is damaged. 

Not sure why they are drawing it with that weird loop at the top.



Just trying to figure this all out.

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 01/03/2016 14:22
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Also, upon a bit of investigation, it seems others have tried to connect the FOUR CARDINAL DIRECTIONS but some of the evidence doesn’t add up?
I view the cardinal directions as having 9 main points, 8 vectors ( the 8 winds) and 1 center ( the center churn, mount meru, window on eternity, the center of the milky way).

Each point on the circle is separated by 45 (9) degree's, it is the classical compass, or compass rose ( which is further sub-divided into 32 points )



One and and same...Dharma wheel


With the 8fold path along the spokes:


Marie-Louise von Franz considers it the "hole through which 'eternity breathes into the the temporal world', or the hole where heaven and earth succeed in meeting, and where creation occurs".

The point (hole) is where the doubling circuit/double mandala/mirror overlap and seemingly rotate around, it is the only place with no double, a singular, what Marko sometimes refers to as "Spirit Emanator". This is also related to Penrose and the Cosmic Censorship Hypothesis ( )

The Ergosphere, the black hole reality sphere where these events occur, according to Penrose and others, actually looks like a torus http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/BlackHole.html ( scroll down)

The milky way represents temporal time , or cyclical time , while the doubling is heavenly time ( the rhythm), intersecting at the center ( or in Marko's version off-center, though this is difficult to fully understand in the context of a 2-d drawing).

The heavenly order - Ho-T'u
The temporal order - Lo-Shu

The Lo-Shu on the cardinal directions, 



ps. An interesting read, Marie-Louise von Franz ( lots of great books including a relation between I-ching and DNA published in the 60's)

Double ps. The magic lo-shu compass image is from this site http://tap3x.net/EMBTI/archives.html

Triple ps: Besides the quantum theory's of singularity ( a la Einstein/Penrose/Hawkins) we also have a more relevant human singularity, maybe Ray Kurzweil is onto something,http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n4/ht...rzweil-800.php

Interview from his book "the singularity is near".

A quote from the article,
Quote:
the point where the perpetual doubling of technological growth skyrockets and negates the linear models of progress that people like economists have relied on for so long. Kurzweil says we’re just about to start rounding this bend and that the rate of progress will be so great it will “appear to rupture the fabric of human history.” In other words, we will trump nature and take control of our own evolution.

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 05/03/2016 15:07
 
Number 9

Nine, as the highest single-digit number (in base ten), 
symbolizes completeness in the Bahá'í Faith. 
In addition, the word Bahá' in the Abjad notation has a value of 9, 
and a 9-pointed star is used to symbolize the religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_(numb...and_philosophy



The symbols of the religion are derived from the Arabic word Bahá’ (بهاء "splendor" or "glory"), 
with a numerical value of 9, which is why the most common symbol is the nine-pointed star. 
The ringstone symbol and calligraphy of the Greatest Name are also often encountered. 
The former consists of two five-pointed stars interspersed with a stylized Bahá’ 
whose shape is meant to recall the three onenesses,
while the latter is a calligraphic rendering of the phrase Yá Bahá'u'l-Abhá 
(يا بهاء الأبهى "O Glory of the Most Glorious!").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%..._Faith#Symbols



In abstract algebra, the concept of a module over a ring is a generalization of the 
notion of vector space, wherein the corresponding scalars are allowed to lie in an arbitrary ring. 
Modules also generalize the notion of abelian groups, which are modules over the ring of integers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_(mathematics)


The loop of "number nine" featured in the recording fuelled rumours about Paul McCartney's 
death after it was reported that it sounded like "turn me on, dead man" when played backwards.







Knights Templars & PRIME numbers:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217191





see GOD (c)
http://science2art.tumblr.com/post/2...0624/see-god-c

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 05/03/2016 15:38
 
Default Love 2 the 9s

Love 2 the 9s



Quote:
God said to Haggai (2:18, 2the9)

“From this day on – from this twenty fourth day of the ninth month, give careful thought: 
Is there yet any seed left in the barn? Until this day the vine (bride of Christ) and 
the fig tree (Israel – bride of God) the pomgranate and the olive tree have not borne fruit. 
From this day on I will bless you.”
Quote:
In verse 12 God says to Israel:

“Return, faithless Israel, declares the Lord.
I will frown on you no longer, for I am merciful, declares the Lord. 
I will not be angry forever. 
Only acknowledge your guilt – you have rebelled against the Lord your God, 
you have scattered your favors to foreign gods under every spreading tree, 
and have not obeyed me.”
The Dawn of Earth's Great Millennium
Magnificent Evidences that the New Day is Dawning!

http://www.sonstoglory.com/millenniumgematria.htm


“Come, let us return to the Lord. He has injured us but he will bind up our wounds. 
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. 
Let us acknowledge the Lord; let us press on to acknowledge him. 
As surely as the sun rises, (the dawn of the Millennium) he will appear; 
he will come to us like the winter rains, like the spring rains that water the earth.”



“I was pushed back and about to fall, but the Lord helped me. 
The Lord is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.... 
The Lord has chastened me severely, but he has not given me over to death. 
Open for me the gates of righteousness; I will enter and give thanks to the Lord... 
I will give thanks for you answered me; you have become my salvation.... 
This is the day that the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it. 
O Lord, save us; 
O Lord grant us success. 
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.”


“The fruit of righteousness will be peace; 
the effect of righteousness will be quietness and confidence forever."




21 12 (20+1) 12
onOFFonOFF


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifix_(Michelangelo)



3.6.
9 
= 1 + 8

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 05/03/2016 15:53
Lightbulb Walter Russell>Mind expresses ideas-9 octave cycle

~

Walter Russell. 

The thinking mind uses electricity (gravitation/centripetal force) and magnetism (radiation/ centrifugal force) 
to create a universe of 'perceived' motion and matter (mind substance).

God's universe of motion and matter (mind substance) are made from 2 pairs of opposed spiral/ vortices.
Pairs of red and blue spirals (motion picture / holographic).
Periodically repeating spirals in 9 octaves, expressing ideas in musical scales, colour, element expressions and more.

 

The universal nine octave cycle:
An invariable characteristic of Nature is to express life-death cycles of any idea, in nine lesser interweaving cycles enfolded in the one. When we thing of man as an idea, we think of him as grown up to fullness of middle age. Until then, we think of generating man as infant, child and youth. Following his generating cycles com the degenerative ones in which he gradually repays all of his borrowings from his zero of rest and returns to that zero to again borrow power to re-express the idea of man. 



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We are spirit, expressing what we will.
We act out perSONAs on our stage of iMAGEination.
We are both the dreamer & the dream.
I think therefore I am. 
I am
 consciousness & potentiality

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums
 

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 05/03/2016 16:05
The 9 Levels of Consciousness

(an unoffocial informal chart, organized by Iasos, based on Bashar's channeling on Nov. 5, 2011)




Commentary
Of these 9 levels:

#1 - The Oversoul - is the highest in frequency, and
#9 - The Physical Mind - Conscious Thoughts - are the lowest in frequency.
Billions of times every second, ALL of these levels collapse back into"neutrality" as the Oversoul, and then expand back out again.

There are of course levels of consciousness even higher than the Oversoul -
all the way back up to the ONE INFINITE BEING.
The Celestial Soul, for example refers to a level above the Oversoul.

When you drop to lower frequencies, you are moving in the direction of more separation,
more forgetfulness, more unconscious behaviors, and more inability to know what you need to know.

When you rise to higher frequencies, you are moving in the direction of more understanding
and knowingness, and less separation. To find answers, you always go up to higher frequencies. 
You always go up to higher frequencies to get answers.

To get in touch with your Beliefs, you don't "dig deeper" into lower frequencies, but rise up to higher frequencies. 


Source: http://iasos.com/metaphys/bashar/Bashar-9-Levels.html


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We are spirit, expressing what we will.
We act out perSONAs on our stage of iMAGEination.
We are both the dreamer & the dream.
I think therefore I am. 
I am
 consciousness & potentiality

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 06/03/2016 14:58
Default Das Theorem des Pythagoras

12 x 9 = 108

72 = 9
36 = 9











Das Theorem des Pythagoras : 
wiederhergestellt in seiner ursprünglichen Form 
und betrachtet als Grundlage der ganzen Pythagoreischen Philosophie 
von H. A. Naber. (1908)

INHALTSVERZEICHNIS
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"Geometry has two great treasures: one is
the theorem of Pythagoras, the other the division of
a line in extreme and mean ratio. The first we may
compare to a mass of gold, the second we may call a
precious jewel."

A brief history of mathematics; an authorized translation 
of Dr. Karl Fink's Geschichte der elementar-mathematik (1900)
http://archive.org/stream/briefhisto...e/222/mode/2up

trinity
"For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form"

Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.

Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 06/03/2016 15:04
 
Default the MATRIX

Quote:
paulbevan369 wrote:
This is great stuff;could you explain how you think Job 38 fits into the picture?
The revelations material re; 'New Jerusalem' math is apparent!
Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU

"RADIUS; the basic language of the MATRIX"



360_ = 3 + 6 + 0 = 9
720_ = 7 + 2 + 0 = 9
1080 = 1 + 8 + 0 = 9
1440 = 1 + 4 + 4 = 9
2160 = 2 + 1 + 6 = 9




And Jehovah proceeded to answer Job out of the windstorm and say:

Who is this that is obscuring counsel
By words without knowledge?

Gird up your loins, please, like an able‐bodied man,
And let me question you, and you inform me....


Pi = 3,1415

(3 + 1) 4 (5 - 1) ----> 4 + 4 + 4 => "twelve sided"

- <------ left 6<>6 right ------> +

And on this side of the river and on that side there were trees of life producing twelve crops of fruit...



Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority to go to the trees of life may be theirs 
and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates.


Let him that has EARS listen

...because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, 
will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. 
And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.
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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 06/03/2016 15:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by science2art View Post
12 x 9 = 108

72 = 9
36 = 9
From the consenting of those I have just mentioned, thoughts appeared in the aeons that exist. From thoughts, reflectings; from reflectings, considerings; from considerings, rationalities, from rationalities, wills, from wills, words. 

Then the twelve powers, whom I have just discussed, consented with each other. males (and) females (each) were revealed, so that there are seventy-two powers. Each one of the seventy-two revealed five spiritual (powers), which (together) are the three hundred and sixty powers. The union of them all is the will.

From the consenting of those I have just mentioned, thoughts appeared in the aeons that exist. From thoughts,


I'm not sure what this is all about but I see one more number!

6 male power + 6 female powers = 12 Powers

12 x 6 = 72 powers each 

72 + 72 = 144 Powers

72 power / 12 power = 5 Spirit powers

5 Spirit powers each 

72 x 5 = 360 Powers each

360 + 360 = 720 Will Powers

5 + 5 = 10 Spirit powers

720 / 10 = 72

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12 x 9 = 108 = 9

72 = 9
36 = 9

108 x 9 = 972 = 18 = 9

9 x 9 = 81 = 9

3 + 2 = 5

5 x 9 = 35 = 9

7 + 6 = 13 = 9

13 x 9 = 117 = 9

7 + 2 + 3 + 6 = 18 = 9

18 x 9 = 162 = 9

9 x 9 = 81 = 9

81 x 9 = 729 = 18 = 9

7 + 2 + 3 = 12 = 3

12 x 3 = 36 = 9

36 + 9 = 324 = 9

324 x 9 = 2916 = 18 = 9

2916 x 9 = 26244 = 18 = 9


3 + 6 + 7 = 16 = 7

16 x 7 = 112 = 4

112 x 4 = 448 = 16 = 7



3 + 6 + 2 = 11 = 2

11 x 9 = 99 = 18 = 9

2 x 9 = 18 = 9

72 + 36 = 108 = 9



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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 06/03/2016 16:43
 
Bode


174 285 396 The Sacred Solfeggio Frequencies


PYRAMID science and Bode's Law


http://www.pinterest.com/pin/319826011012940423/



Bode was born in Hamburg. As a youth, he suffered from a serious eye disease which particularly damaged his right eye; 
he continued to have trouble with his eyes throughout his life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Elert_Bode

TRINITY reactor setup
http://forum.keshefoundation.org/for...en-are-waiting

@ 52min25sec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0nCF91bYk

Sacred Tetractys

The Pythagoreans adored numbers. Aristotle, in his Metaphysica, sums up the Pythagorean’s attitude towards numbers.

“The Pythagoreans were … the first to take up mathematics … and thought its principles were the principles of all things. 
Since, of these principles, numbers … are the first, … in numbers they seemed to see many resemblances to things that exist … 
more than just air, fire and earth and water, but things such as justice, soul, reason, opportunity …”

http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/numbers-magick/

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 07/03/2016 22:32
 Tablet IX

Excerpted from .“Tablet IX: The Key to Freedom of Space.”

“Long, long ago, I cast off my body, wandered I free through the Vastness of Ether. Circled the Angles that hold Man in Bondage. Know ye, O Man, ye are only a Spirit...

Once in a Time long forgotten, I Thoth, Opened the Doorway. Penetrated into other Spaces, and Learned of the Secrets Concealed. Deep in the Essence of Matter are many Mysteries Concealed.

Nine are the Interlocked Dimensions, and Nine are the Cycles of Space, Nine are the Diffusions of Consciousness, and Nine are the Worlds within Worlds, aye, Nine are the lords of the Cycles that come from Above and Below.

Space is filled with concealed Ones, for Space is Divided by Time, Seek ye the Key to TIME-SPACE, and ye shall Unlock the Gate. Know ye that throughout the TIME-SPACE Consciousness surely Exists, though from our Knowledge it is Hidden, yet still it Forever Exists.

The Key to Worlds Within thee, are found Within, for Man is the Gateway of Mystery, and the Key that is One Within One.

Down the HALLS of AMENTI, I journeyed, the Greater Knowledge to Seek, asked of the LORDS of the CYCLES, the way to the Hidden Wisdom I sought. Asked the Lords this Question; .‘Where is the Source of All?.’ Answered in Tones that were Mighty, the Voice of the LORD of Nine, .‘Free thou thy Soul from thy Body, and come forth with me to the LIGHT..’

Then asked I of the Nine, .‘O Lord, show me the Path, give me the Path to Wisdom, show me the Way to the WORD..’ Answered, me then, the lord of the Nine, .‘Through ORDER ye shall find the Way. Saw ye not that the WORD came from Chaos, saw Ye not that LIGHT came from Fire? Look in Thy Life for Disorder, Balance and Order Thy Life, Quell all the Chaos of Emotions and Thou shalt have Order in LIFE. Order brought forth from Chaos will bring thee the WORD of the Source, will give Thee the Power of CYCLES, and make of thy Soul a Force, that Free, will extend through the Ages, a Perfected SUN from the SOURCE..’.”



Emerald Tables of Thoth The Atlantean

The Emerald Tables of Thoth the Atlantean - Translation and Interpretation by Doreal is said to be a literal translation and interpretation of one of the most ancient and secret of the great works of ancient Hermetic wisdom.

“Oh-Shinnah Fast Wolf, a Native American elder born in 1934, has spoken about one of her visits to Mexico where she was drawn to the temple at Palenque. While there, she was befriended by the Maya.….”

“She was told about the .‘Emerald Tablets of Thoth.’, or Hermes Trismegistus, who was said to have been from Egypt. The Maya say that he was actually from Atlantis, who was .‘...the son of a human being and one of the Seven Lords of Light.’. Once again a metaphoric allusion to the Pleiades.

When Hermes/Thoth realized Atlantis was abusing its powers, the Maya told her, he began to teach the people how to live in the sacred manner. He sent a copy of the Emerald Tablets to each of .‘The Four Directions.’. The only one that has been found was among the Maya of the Yucatan.

In 1934, a man known as Doreal, a member of the White Brotherhood, brought these tablets to the United States, and it is believed they were eventually returned to Egypt were they are safely kept in a museum. The tablets were translated into several languages by the Brotherhood of the White Temple..”



A study of the number nine in science myth and mysticism

http://issuu.com/sciencetosage/docs/the_number_nine

https://www.scribd.com/doc/114233565/The-Number-Nine



CORAL CASTLE
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1434
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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 07/03/2016 22:35
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Originally Posted by judgedread View Post
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Marks views might be interesting but don't be taken in by him when he crosses a few lines, avoids using the name zero and then says it's god.

Quote:
(1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8) = 36 (3+6) = 9

Yes 9 is odd in our base ten sytem but it's the tenth digit (save the zero is not a number) but if we had 16 fingers (HEX) then i am sure other patterns would be foundand and "E" would be the odd one out


Three suns over China 11 1 2011 < 3121 >
http://yeinjee.com/three-suns-over-china/

98th Knowledge Seekers Workshop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPV0...utu.be&t=1h20m

.
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She said that prime numbers have been an open question for the whole of human history. With gravity she added that who ever will reveal the enigmatic nature of the primes will surely in so doing also reveal an entirely new basis for understanding the universe.

Through my research, I have formulated the view that mind creates the field we think of as numbers through the act of creative will. This contrasted with a mind at rest which experiences unity, that is, it experiences one-ness with all that is as an undifferentiated field of emptiness.

A mind with a will to experience separateness through subject and object instantly brings numbers into being. Each of these numbers are in reality a positive or negative conscious field and the interactions of these fields automatically set up polarity and thus magnetism arises.

It is through numbers and by the simple set of self-constructive “rules” encoded within the Glyph plate below that the Universe organizes itself into myriad variation. I believe that the primes are in closer then ever before to giving up their long guarded enigmatic nature because of new, emerging ways of thinking.

The physical universe can be said to be fundamentally divided into 9 parts.

The number 9 represents the seat of the creative or destructive will. The numbers 3 and 6 extend from nine as polarity which imparts motive force from the creative will into the Creation.

9 is is never “physically” present in the system but ever guiding it

The idea of balance in stillness on a circle of 9 is not possible since 9 is by its unpaired nature inherently unbalanced. This confers upon the cosmos a basic state of “restlessness” which is the root cause of the vortex from which arises the physical Creation.

The Yin Yang symbol indicates balance at rest, perfected stillness. To obtain this level of stillness, one must transcend physical (or mod9) based existence altogether and transfer consciousness to the higher sphere, the circle of 8.

https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/319826011014358978/
https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/319826011014358846/

I think that the prime numbers are the result of particular interference patterns between the vector fields produced by the numbers themselves. I refer to these as “Numeric Field Interactions” and define Numeric Fields to be the quantum field produced by the mind wherever there is a conscious will differentiating unity into plurality.

I have also found that analysis of the numeric polarity for the Fibonacci sequence reveals an infinitely repeating cycle of interlaced magnetic polarity.

http://alexpetty.com/content/images/...ty-mapping.png



Alex Petty flower of life
http://alexpetty.com/2009/11/15/nume...-of-primality/

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Mysteries of the Equilateral Triangle
http://forum.keshefoundation.org/for...ystem-solution

(1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8) = 36 (3+6) = 9

36 & 36 <> 72

3 x 24 <> 72
https://www.google.nl/search?q=72+names+god

24 & 18 & 30 <> 72

24 18 30 <> 6 9 3
https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/319826011014603077/
http://forum.keshefoundation.org/for...she-technology

666 < 4 x sæx <24> 3 x sæx <18> PHIve x sæx < 30 > >
https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/319826011016797875/

4 3 PHive
https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/319826011016190844/

sciences, arts, and religions
https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/319826011014266532/

< 4 x PHIve > x < 9 & 9 > x 72 <> 25 920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QQU9lq91ok

< 4 x PHIve >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KS5XvP_rGI

< 9 > 25 920 < 9 >

The typical respiratory rate for a healthy adult at rest is 12–20 breaths per minute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_rate

9 & 9 <> 18

9 IN
9 OUT
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